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  1. #1
    Viswanath Guest

    SID History Clean Up

    1.Does ADMT v3.0 perform SID History cleanup after the migration is completed?
    2.Can ADMT v3.0 process COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server, Cluster
    Servers
    3.Can migration tasks be delegated? If so are there any best practises on
    this kind of deployment?
    4. Can ADMT agents be dispatched using login script or can they be sent on a
    media to remote users. I am looking for a solution to address disconnected
    users and mobile users.

  2. #2
    Morgan che Guest

    RE: SID History Clean Up

    Hi,

    Thanks for using this newsgroup.

    <1.Does ADMT v3.0 perform SID History cleanup after the migration is
    completed?>

    [Morgan]:

    By default, SIDHistory, password, and objectGUID are all preserved during
    intra-forest migrations. For inter-forest migration, SIDHistory will be
    preserved if choosing 'Enable SIDHistory' in ADMT migration Wizard.
    SIDHistory attribute ensures the migrated users to access the original
    resource without re-assigning the corresponding permissions.

    The migrated objects are assigned a new SID by the target domain. The
    original SID is added to the SIDHistory attribute of the migrated object in
    the new domain. After this occurs, the sIDHistory attribute may not be
    modified or deleted by using the standard Active Directory administration
    tools. This is not permitted because the sIDHistory attribute is owned by
    the SAM. It is possible to clear the sIDHistory by using a script or a
    non-public Microsoft internal tool.

    For more information about how to use Visual Basic Script to clear
    SidHistory, please refer to

    How To Use Visual Basic Script to Clear SidHistory
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295758/en-us

    <2.Can ADMT v3.0 process COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server, Cluster
    Servers?>

    [Morgan]:

    Please understand ADMT can help us migrate User accounts, groups, computer
    accounts and security permissions, like NTFS permission, printer permission
    and so on. For the migration of COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server,
    Cluster Servers, it's not included in supported scenarios. More
    information, please refer to

    ADMT v3 Migration Guide
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...770-3BBB-4B9E-
    A8BC-01E9F7EF7342&displaylang=en

    <3.Can migration tasks be delegated? If so are there any best practices on
    this kind of deployment?>

    [Morgan]:

    Yes, the migration tasks can be delegated. Please refer to the following
    article to delegate the necessary permission:

    Establishing Migration Accounts
    http://technet2.microsoft.com/window...a-c150-4cbe-b7
    d4-7bbecb8960d71033.mspx?mfr=true

    <4. Can ADMT agents be dispatched using login script or can they be sent on
    a media to remote users. >

    Based on my research, we can use the following method to migrate computer.

    1.we can use a script to join workstations to the new domain, then use ADMT
    (Active Directory Migration Tool) to migrate users to new domain.

    For how to create a script to join a computer to a domain, please refer to
    the following articles:

    How to join a domain from the command line
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/150493/en-us

    Join a computer to a domain by VBscript
    http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo...tType=vbscript

    Please note:

    This article assumes that you are familiar with the programming language
    being demonstrated. Due to the fact this is a Development related request
    in nature, if you need a specific script under the particular scenario,
    you'd best be addressed in the following Developer newsgroups:
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp

    2. Alternatively, to directly migrate computer account by using a logon
    script on the target workstation, you can refer to the following article to
    write this script:

    Migrating Windows NT Workstations to a New Domain
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc.../migrwork.mspx
    ?mfr=true

    Briefly, to achieve to migrate Workstations to a new Domain, three logon
    scripts will be requested. The first one is to create a user account with
    the proper permissions to do migration. The second one is to perform
    migration task. The last is to restore the changed local groups and
    registry.

    I hope this helps. If you need further assistance, please feel free to post
    back.

    Have a good day!



    Sincerely
    Morgan Che
    Microsoft Online Support
    Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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    completed?
    --->2.Can ADMT v3.0 process COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server,
    Cluster
    --->Servers
    --->3.Can migration tasks be delegated? If so are there any best practises
    on
    --->this kind of deployment?
    --->4. Can ADMT agents be dispatched using login script or can they be sent
    on a
    --->media to remote users. I am looking for a solution to address
    disconnected
    --->users and mobile users.
    --->


  3. #3
    Venkat Guest

    Re: SID History Clean Up

    Thank You Morgan for your response.

    Two things on the computer migration:
    1. So if i understand correctly, we need to perform these steps in the
    following order:
    a) user migration
    b)join the users comp to the new domain (may be using netdom util)
    c)run Admt security translation
    2.How do we handle computers which are either over VPN or which remote
    computers that do not login to the domain?

    On delegated migrations:
    1.So, we can have a scenario where all users are migrated from a central
    office (HO) and the resource migration is delegated to branch admins. In
    this kind of delegation, should all branch admin ADMT consoles be configured
    to use the same SQL server which is configured to be used by the HO ADMT
    Console? How does this work?




    "Morgan che(MSFT)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:%[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    >
    > Thanks for using this newsgroup.
    >
    > <1.Does ADMT v3.0 perform SID History cleanup after the migration is
    > completed?>
    >
    > [Morgan]:
    >
    > By default, SIDHistory, password, and objectGUID are all preserved during
    > intra-forest migrations. For inter-forest migration, SIDHistory will be
    > preserved if choosing 'Enable SIDHistory' in ADMT migration Wizard.
    > SIDHistory attribute ensures the migrated users to access the original
    > resource without re-assigning the corresponding permissions.
    >
    > The migrated objects are assigned a new SID by the target domain. The
    > original SID is added to the SIDHistory attribute of the migrated object
    > in
    > the new domain. After this occurs, the sIDHistory attribute may not be
    > modified or deleted by using the standard Active Directory administration
    > tools. This is not permitted because the sIDHistory attribute is owned by
    > the SAM. It is possible to clear the sIDHistory by using a script or a
    > non-public Microsoft internal tool.
    >
    > For more information about how to use Visual Basic Script to clear
    > SidHistory, please refer to
    >
    > How To Use Visual Basic Script to Clear SidHistory
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295758/en-us
    >
    > <2.Can ADMT v3.0 process COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server, Cluster
    > Servers?>
    >
    > [Morgan]:
    >
    > Please understand ADMT can help us migrate User accounts, groups, computer
    > accounts and security permissions, like NTFS permission, printer
    > permission
    > and so on. For the migration of COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server,
    > Cluster Servers, it's not included in supported scenarios. More
    > information, please refer to
    >
    > ADMT v3 Migration Guide
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...770-3BBB-4B9E-
    > A8BC-01E9F7EF7342&displaylang=en
    >
    > <3.Can migration tasks be delegated? If so are there any best practices on
    > this kind of deployment?>
    >
    > [Morgan]:
    >
    > Yes, the migration tasks can be delegated. Please refer to the following
    > article to delegate the necessary permission:
    >
    > Establishing Migration Accounts
    > http://technet2.microsoft.com/window...a-c150-4cbe-b7
    > d4-7bbecb8960d71033.mspx?mfr=true
    >
    > <4. Can ADMT agents be dispatched using login script or can they be sent
    > on
    > a media to remote users. >
    >
    > Based on my research, we can use the following method to migrate computer.
    >
    > 1.we can use a script to join workstations to the new domain, then use
    > ADMT
    > (Active Directory Migration Tool) to migrate users to new domain.
    >
    > For how to create a script to join a computer to a domain, please refer to
    > the following articles:
    >
    > How to join a domain from the command line
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/150493/en-us
    >
    > Join a computer to a domain by VBscript
    > http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo...tType=vbscript
    >
    > Please note:
    >
    > This article assumes that you are familiar with the programming language
    > being demonstrated. Due to the fact this is a Development related request
    > in nature, if you need a specific script under the particular scenario,
    > you'd best be addressed in the following Developer newsgroups:
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp
    >
    > 2. Alternatively, to directly migrate computer account by using a logon
    > script on the target workstation, you can refer to the following article
    > to
    > write this script:
    >
    > Migrating Windows NT Workstations to a New Domain
    > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc.../migrwork.mspx
    > ?mfr=true
    >
    > Briefly, to achieve to migrate Workstations to a new Domain, three logon
    > scripts will be requested. The first one is to create a user account with
    > the proper permissions to do migration. The second one is to perform
    > migration task. The last is to restore the changed local groups and
    > registry.
    >
    > I hope this helps. If you need further assistance, please feel free to
    > post
    > back.
    >
    > Have a good day!
    >
    >
    >
    > Sincerely
    > Morgan Che
    > Microsoft Online Support
    > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
    >
    > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
    > =====================================================
    > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
    > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
    > =====================================================
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    > --->1.Does ADMT v3.0 perform SID History cleanup after the migration is
    > completed?
    > --->2.Can ADMT v3.0 process COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server,
    > Cluster
    > --->Servers
    > --->3.Can migration tasks be delegated? If so are there any best practises
    > on
    > --->this kind of deployment?
    > --->4. Can ADMT agents be dispatched using login script or can they be
    > sent
    > on a
    > --->media to remote users. I am looking for a solution to address
    > disconnected
    > --->users and mobile users.
    > --->
    >




  4. #4
    Morgan che Guest

    RE: SID History Clean Up


    Hi,

    How are you?

    I am writing to see if you have any update about this post. If you
    encounter any break/fix issue, please feel free to let me know.

    Have a good day!
    Sincerely
    Morgan Che
    Microsoft Online Support
    Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
    =====================================================
    When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
    that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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    completed?
    --->2.Can ADMT v3.0 process COM+, DCOM, IIS, SharePoint, SQL Server,
    Cluster
    --->Servers
    --->3.Can migration tasks be delegated? If so are there any best practises
    on
    --->this kind of deployment?
    --->4. Can ADMT agents be dispatched using login script or can they be sent
    on a
    --->media to remote users. I am looking for a solution to address
    disconnected
    --->users and mobile users.
    --->


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