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Old 19-05-2008
Sabo, Eric
 
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Windows 2008 quorum Question

In a couple of months we will be implementing a two-node windows 2008 file
cluster. Do you still need to have a shared cluster quorum or can I just
have local quorums on both nodes and not have the shared cluster quorum.

Thanks in advance,
Eric Sabo


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Old 19-05-2008
John Toner [MVP]
 
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Re: Windows 2008 quorum Question

The "Local quorum" option has been removed from 2008. In 2008, you have the
following choices:

- Node Majority (MNS)...not recommend for a 2 node cluster

- Node and Disk Majority...will be default quorum model if shared storage is
present

- Node and File Share Majority (FSW)...recommend if you don't want to use a
disk for quorum

- No Majority (disk only...same as 2003 default model)...not recommended.

More details can be found in the following webcast:

Deep Dive on Failover Clustering in Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Storage
and Understanding Quorum

On-demand webcast - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8213972
PowerPoint presentation - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7933798

Regards,
John

Visit my blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jtoner

"Sabo, Eric" <sabo_e@cup.edu> wrote in message
news:D602E69E-42FF-467C-A9EB-8413E39384BA@microsoft.com...
> In a couple of months we will be implementing a two-node windows 2008 file
> cluster. Do you still need to have a shared cluster quorum or can I just
> have local quorums on both nodes and not have the shared cluster quorum.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Eric Sabo
>



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Old 19-05-2008
Kenny Speer
 
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Re: Windows 2008 quorum Question

In other words, you can use a quorum but it is not required for proper
operation of the cluster. In 2003, loss of the quorum would take the
cluster down, in 2008, the quorum is just another witness, like a node.

As John suggested, read up on 2008 Failover Cluster.

John Toner [MVP] wrote:
> The "Local quorum" option has been removed from 2008. In 2008, you have the
> following choices:
>
> - Node Majority (MNS)...not recommend for a 2 node cluster
>
> - Node and Disk Majority...will be default quorum model if shared storage is
> present
>
> - Node and File Share Majority (FSW)...recommend if you don't want to use a
> disk for quorum
>
> - No Majority (disk only...same as 2003 default model)...not recommended.
>
> More details can be found in the following webcast:
>
> Deep Dive on Failover Clustering in Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Storage
> and Understanding Quorum
>
> On-demand webcast - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8213972
> PowerPoint presentation - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7933798
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> Visit my blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jtoner
>
> "Sabo, Eric" <sabo_e@cup.edu> wrote in message
> news:D602E69E-42FF-467C-A9EB-8413E39384BA@microsoft.com...
>> In a couple of months we will be implementing a two-node windows 2008 file
>> cluster. Do you still need to have a shared cluster quorum or can I just
>> have local quorums on both nodes and not have the shared cluster quorum.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Eric Sabo
>>

>
>

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Old 20-05-2008
Ryan Sokolowski [MVP]
 
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Re: Windows 2008 quorum Question

This link has the core Windows Server 2008 Failover Clustering document
links:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Of particular note here (for your Quorum inquiry) is the Windows Server 2008
Failover Clustering Architecture Overview:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...20Overview.doc

--

Ryan Sokolowski
MVP - Clustering
MCSE, CCNA, CCDA, BCFP


"John Toner [MVP]" <jtoner@DIE.SPAM.DIE.mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oz6RH7buIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The "Local quorum" option has been removed from 2008. In 2008, you have
> the
> following choices:
>
> - Node Majority (MNS)...not recommend for a 2 node cluster
>
> - Node and Disk Majority...will be default quorum model if shared storage
> is
> present
>
> - Node and File Share Majority (FSW)...recommend if you don't want to use
> a
> disk for quorum
>
> - No Majority (disk only...same as 2003 default model)...not recommended.
>
> More details can be found in the following webcast:
>
> Deep Dive on Failover Clustering in Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Storage
> and Understanding Quorum
>
> On-demand webcast - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8213972
> PowerPoint presentation - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7933798
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> Visit my blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jtoner
>
> "Sabo, Eric" <sabo_e@cup.edu> wrote in message
> news:D602E69E-42FF-467C-A9EB-8413E39384BA@microsoft.com...
>> In a couple of months we will be implementing a two-node windows 2008
>> file
>> cluster. Do you still need to have a shared cluster quorum or can I
>> just
>> have local quorums on both nodes and not have the shared cluster quorum.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Eric Sabo
>>

>
>


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Old 22-05-2008
Sabo, Eric
 
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Re: Windows 2008 quorum Question

From what I read setting up a Windows 2008 is pretty much straight forward.

The wizard will detect what we need to do, is this correct? It is suppose
to take the guess work out.

"Ryan Sokolowski [MVP]" <ryan@clustering101.com> wrote in message
news:8B02F27E-0E2F-44ED-B893-80883A8EC521@microsoft.com...
> This link has the core Windows Server 2008 Failover Clustering document
> links:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> Of particular note here (for your Quorum inquiry) is the Windows Server
> 2008 Failover Clustering Architecture Overview:
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...20Overview.doc
>
> --
>
> Ryan Sokolowski
> MVP - Clustering
> MCSE, CCNA, CCDA, BCFP
>
>
> "John Toner [MVP]" <jtoner@DIE.SPAM.DIE.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:Oz6RH7buIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The "Local quorum" option has been removed from 2008. In 2008, you have
>> the
>> following choices:
>>
>> - Node Majority (MNS)...not recommend for a 2 node cluster
>>
>> - Node and Disk Majority...will be default quorum model if shared storage
>> is
>> present
>>
>> - Node and File Share Majority (FSW)...recommend if you don't want to use
>> a
>> disk for quorum
>>
>> - No Majority (disk only...same as 2003 default model)...not recommended.
>>
>> More details can be found in the following webcast:
>>
>> Deep Dive on Failover Clustering in Windows Server 2008 Enterprise
>> Storage
>> and Understanding Quorum
>>
>> On-demand webcast - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8213972
>> PowerPoint presentation - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7933798
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>> Visit my blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jtoner
>>
>> "Sabo, Eric" <sabo_e@cup.edu> wrote in message
>> news:D602E69E-42FF-467C-A9EB-8413E39384BA@microsoft.com...
>>> In a couple of months we will be implementing a two-node windows 2008
>>> file
>>> cluster. Do you still need to have a shared cluster quorum or can I
>>> just
>>> have local quorums on both nodes and not have the shared cluster quorum.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Eric Sabo
>>>

>>
>>

>


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Old 22-05-2008
John Toner [MVP]
 
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Re: Windows 2008 quorum Question

Well, the wizard pretty much only picks "Node Majority" or "Node & Disk
Majority" depending upon the number of nodes presented to the cluster. If
you build a 2-node cluster with no shared storage, it will still choose Node
Majority even though it recommends against this quorum model.

If you want to use "Node and File Share Majority" or "No Majority", you
would need to manually choose these options after setting up the cluster.

Regards,
John

Visit my blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jtoner

"Sabo, Eric" <sabo_e@cup.edu> wrote in message
news:06DC3C4A-D30C-401A-9C31-FA386B676406@microsoft.com...
> From what I read setting up a Windows 2008 is pretty much straight

forward.
>
> The wizard will detect what we need to do, is this correct? It is

suppose
> to take the guess work out.
>
> "Ryan Sokolowski [MVP]" <ryan@clustering101.com> wrote in message
> news:8B02F27E-0E2F-44ED-B893-80883A8EC521@microsoft.com...
> > This link has the core Windows Server 2008 Failover Clustering document
> > links:
> >

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > Of particular note here (for your Quorum inquiry) is the Windows Server
> > 2008 Failover Clustering Architecture Overview:
> >

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...20Overview.doc
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ryan Sokolowski
> > MVP - Clustering
> > MCSE, CCNA, CCDA, BCFP
> >
> >
> > "John Toner [MVP]" <jtoner@DIE.SPAM.DIE.mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:Oz6RH7buIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> The "Local quorum" option has been removed from 2008. In 2008, you have
> >> the
> >> following choices:
> >>
> >> - Node Majority (MNS)...not recommend for a 2 node cluster
> >>
> >> - Node and Disk Majority...will be default quorum model if shared

storage
> >> is
> >> present
> >>
> >> - Node and File Share Majority (FSW)...recommend if you don't want to

use
> >> a
> >> disk for quorum
> >>
> >> - No Majority (disk only...same as 2003 default model)...not

recommended.
> >>
> >> More details can be found in the following webcast:
> >>
> >> Deep Dive on Failover Clustering in Windows Server 2008 Enterprise
> >> Storage
> >> and Understanding Quorum
> >>
> >> On-demand webcast - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8213972
> >> PowerPoint presentation - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7933798
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> John
> >>
> >> Visit my blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jtoner
> >>
> >> "Sabo, Eric" <sabo_e@cup.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:D602E69E-42FF-467C-A9EB-8413E39384BA@microsoft.com...
> >>> In a couple of months we will be implementing a two-node windows 2008
> >>> file
> >>> cluster. Do you still need to have a shared cluster quorum or can I
> >>> just
> >>> have local quorums on both nodes and not have the shared cluster

quorum.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>> Eric Sabo
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >

>



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