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Thread: manual updates

  1. #1
    Rick Guest

    manual updates

    Please tell me why I am seeing this when i try to update.
    (The website has encountered a problem and cannot display the page you are
    trying to view. The options provided below might help you solve the problem).

    I can find nothing to help me with this and have been getting the same
    message now for 5 days.

    Thank you

  2. #2
    Carey Frisch [MVP] Guest

    Re: manual updates

    How to troubleshoot problems connecting to Windows Update
    or to Microsoft Update
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818018/en-us

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows - Shell/User
    Microsoft Community Newsgroups
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Rick" wrote:

    | Please tell me why I am seeing this when i try to update.
    | (The website has encountered a problem and cannot display the page you are
    | trying to view. The options provided below might help you solve the problem).
    |
    | I can find nothing to help me with this and have been getting the same
    | message now for 5 days.
    |
    | Thank you

  3. #3
    Pam Guest
    I am having the same problem Rick is. I went to your link, but isn't there a
    direct answer that you can give?

  4. #4
    TaurArian [MS-MVP] Guest

    Re: manual updates

    0x8007041D รข€“ 2147023843 - ERROR_SERVICE_REQUEST_TIMEOUT
    The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion

    You receive a "0x8007041D" error when you visit the Windows Update Web site
    http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;902322

    or
    If this is not the case then check in the Event Viewer to see if there is any specific errors
    regarding services
    Start/Run/Eventvwr.msc


    Some additional information on this error from Torgeir, Microsoft MVP

    <snip>

    Hi,

    If the things in TaurArian's post didn't apply or work, it is most likely a COM+ issue.

    First, verify that the "COM+ Event System" service is not disabled or not functioning:

    Press Start and Run, and then run this command:
    services.msc

    Locate the "COM+ Event System" entry, and double click on it. Startup type should be set to
    "Manual", and if the service is not already running, press the Start button to see if it starts
    successfully.

    If the steps above where ok, see if the steps in this previous post fixes the problem (applies to
    WinXP as well):

    From: DBQ <DBQ@discussions.microsoft.com>
    Subject: Re: 0x8007041D W2K Server Try All
    Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:30:03 -0700
    Message-ID: <B7B2BCF2-44EB-46AA-95B1-00A42DCB35E1@microsoft.com>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsupdate

    <quote>
    We with a little help from MS It is fixed.

    Two issued needed repairing.

    1. COM+,
    This required cleaning up a damaged COM+ catalog details at:
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315296

    2. Replacement of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft
    \Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Svchost for another working machine.

    </quote>

    --
    torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
    <snip>

  5. #5
    Rick Guest

    Re: manual updates

    Thank you Carey, But i tried everything on the link you sent to me and i
    still get the same error (0x800A1391). Anymore ideas? Thanks

  6. #6
    Pam Guest
    This is what I found in Eventvwr.msc:
    Application Run Error - Load Perf
    Uploading the performance counters strings for service WmiApRpl failed. The
    error code is the first DWord in data section.

    System - Service Control Manager
    The automatic update sevice terminated with the following error :
    %%2149896199

    System - W32time
    The time provider NtpClient is configured to aquire time from one or more
    time sources, however none of the sources are currently accessible. No
    attempt to contact a source will be made for 14 min. NtpClient has no source
    of accurate time.

  7. #7
    Rick Guest

    Re: manual updates

    Ok, thanks everyone. I finally got it figured out. All i had to do was
    disable my Norton Firewall.

  8. #8
    Pam Guest

    Re: manual updates

    I did that last night and it didn't help me. I closed my firewall and
    anit-virus protection and still could not get the page to display.

    Thanks, i'm happy for you.

  9. #9
    Robert Aldwinckle Guest

    Re: manual updates

    "Pam" <Pam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:BB3AC55B-3AE3-4251-8E83-A3A8E90177E7@microsoft.com...
    > This is what I found in Eventvwr.msc:


    > System - Service Control Manager
    > The automatic update sevice terminated with the following error :
    > %%2149896199



    Converts to 8024D007 (unsigned!)

    I think this is another example of where WU error code representation
    is inconsistent. The above (assumed decimal) unsigned number converts
    to a 32 bit hex value which looks like an error code which has been seen
    occasionally before. However, normally we find that such DWords
    are interpreted as representing negative decimal values.

    So, let's search Google Groups with all possible representations of that hex string:

    (0x8024D007 OR 8024D007 OR 2149896199 OR "-2145071097") (MSFT OR MVP) group:microsoft.*

    and sort by date to try to capture current thinking.


    Here's an example of a post which that type of analysis discovers:

    http://groups.google.com/group/micro...f0d4c8424ce353


    Please note that the resolutions that these searches lead to may be
    much stronger than might be needed for any particular incident.
    For example, since we have had so few details about your particular
    case it could be even something as simple as making sure that the
    Automatic Updates service is still running.


    HTH

    Robert Aldwinckle
    ---



  10. #10
    Pam Guest

    Re: manual updates

    I really thought this was going to work, but it didn't. I came closer than
    I had, it actually came up with the update and was signed by microsoft and
    started the process of downloading. It completed the download and then went
    to the error page again!!!

  11. #11
    Robert Aldwinckle Guest

    Re: manual updates11

    "Pam" <Pam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A5E36392-A0E6-439A-9256-227E6E5EFA87@microsoft.com...
    >I really thought this was going to work, but it didn't. I came closer than
    > I had, it actually came up with the update and was signed by microsoft and
    > started the process of downloading. It completed the download and then went
    > to the error page again!!!



    If it completed the download you could have disconnected
    (e.g. if using dialup) and then done the install. Unfortunately updates
    done via WU don't provide a prompt to allow this to happen as AU does
    but I really don't think think that there should have been any reason
    for a connection *during* the install phase. In fact it's possible that
    the install worked and the page being requested would just have clarified that.
    Perhaps you could have pressed Refresh (or F5) then to reshow that.

    Again, though, you aren't giving us enough details to work with.
    With so few facts any one hypothesis which is consistent with them
    may not be useful in your actual situation and it's tedious playing guessing
    games as details are slowly dribbled back to us. Remember, your words
    have to substitute for what our eyes might notice.

    If you're not sure what you were trying to do or what was happening
    you could look for all files which were changed by the update
    (in particular logs files) by using Search Companion (e.g. press Win-F)
    and find all files which changed that day. Then sort that list by Date Modified
    and scroll back to the exact minute that the update was run.

    Hint: Add a column for Date Modified and set the View to Details
    if that is not already the case.

    Alternatively please try using the Custom Install option and picking one
    update to download and install at a time. Then you will have a better idea
    of what you are trying to do and it will be easier to suggest what specific
    diagnostics you could to look for if it fails again.


    HTH

    Robert
    ---



  12. #12
    Rodrigo Guest

    RE: manual updates

    Hello

    I have the same problem and cannot solve it.

    "Rick" wrote:

    > Please tell me why I am seeing this when i try to update.
    > (The website has encountered a problem and cannot display the page you are
    > trying to view. The options provided below might help you solve the problem).
    >
    > I can find nothing to help me with this and have been getting the same
    > message now for 5 days.
    >
    > Thank you


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