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  1. #16
    Eduardo Nazato Guest

    Re: XCOPY Insufficient system resources problem.

    Sorry, but even changing PagePoolMaximum didn't fixed the problem.
    Actually, changing it or the other listed keys stopped the error message
    from appearing, but made the copy seem to be hung (it never stops).

    As a (another) workaround, I'm using TeraCopy to copy these large files.
    http://www.codesector.com/teracopy.php
    It works very well, but in anyway solves the problem. Like said above:
    Windows Sever should do this "alone", and well.

    "Ryan" wrote:

    > Sorry I didn't post the solution when I found it. What worked for me was
    > reducing the PagePoolMaximum to 30. I had tried reducing it to 60 but
    > apperently that wasn't low enough. It only took me a month of calls to MS to
    > get it resolved.
    >
    > "Eduardo Nazato" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I've been experiencing the "Insufficient system resources" problem for a
    > > long time, but always used other ways to circunvent it. But now I DO need to
    > > resolve it.
    > >
    > > Let me explain it: I work with server virtualization (through Virtual Server
    > > 2005 R2 SP1), and it's common for me to have to copy huge VHDs files from one
    > > server to another. But the mentioned problem appears very often, and right
    > > now it's really driving me mad! Next weekend, I'll need to copy this kind of
    > > file fast, due to downtime window.
    > >
    > > I think I've tried every listed solution on internet and MS articles, and
    > > none of them helped me:
    > > - Xcopy didn't helped, and neither Rocobopy. Both shows me the same problem.
    > > - Changing IRPStackSize, PagedPoolSize, SystemPages or PoolUsageMaximum
    > > keys helped... with nothing! =P
    > >
    > > The solution that I've been using for this problem is copying the file with
    > > NTBackup. It works, but it's a extremelly slow solution, and I can't wait for
    > > so long.
    > >
    > > So please, anyone, is there a solution that really works? Or only on Windows
    > > x64 I'll finally see this damn problem resolved?
    > >
    > > Our servers are Dell PowerEdge 2800/2900, with Windows 2003 R2 SP2 x86, and
    > > they have, at least, 8Gb RAM. I'm pretty sure that they do have suficient RAM
    > > and free space while performing file copies.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance ;)
    > > Eduardo Nazato
    > >
    > >
    > > "Ryan" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm havnig the same problem now
    > > > and don't have a clue what to do next. The best lead I've gotten is this:
    > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;304101
    > > >
    > > > This doesn't seem to fix my problem. I'm thinking about further reducing the
    > > > PageUsageMaximum to see if it helps on my system. Let me know if you find a
    > > > solution.
    > > >
    > > > "Chris Wilhelm" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > After some poking around, I found this article, which isn't really related..
    > > > > but is, since it's a copying of files problem we have here, not specifically
    > > > > xcopy, but copy or even copying w/ windows explorer. They all error with the
    > > > > same message.
    > > > > The article is this:
    > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;304101
    > > > > and suggests this:
    > > > > Registry setting 1
    > > > > 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then click OK.
    > > > > 2. Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
    > > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
    > > > > Management
    > > > > 3. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
    > > > > 4. Type PoolUsageMaximum as the entry name, and then press ENTER.
    > > > > 5. Right-click PoolUsageMaximum, and then click Modify.
    > > > > 6. Click Decimal.
    > > > > 7. In the Value data box, type 60, and then click OK.
    > > > > 8. Quit Registry Editor.
    > > > > 9. Restart your computer.
    > > > >
    > > > > Which indeed has rectified the issue.
    > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Seeing that you're talking about principles: Microsoft have decided
    > > > > > that xcopy.exe is superseded by robocopy.exe and that xcopy
    > > > > > should no longer be used, presumably in view of the long-standing
    > > > > > "System resources" problem.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > There is another reason why robocopy is preferable (other than
    > > > > > it richer set of switches): It can deal with path+file names in excess
    > > > > > of 255 characters. Xcopy can't.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Chris Wilhelm" <ChrisWilhelm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:15E24C35-3539-4FF6-B105-4505622DD211@microsoft.com...
    > > > > > > Oh I wouldn't. I just want the problem fixed, or some discussion on how
    > > > > > > to
    > > > > > > fix it. It's not that I can't use robocopy, it's that I shouldn't have
    > > > > > > to.
    > > > > > > You know.. the principle.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> "Chris Wilhelm" <Chris Wilhelm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    > > > > > >> message
    > > > > > >> news:0753E4DA-D0B0-45A1-BCAB-8618DDFEE832@microsoft.com...
    > > > > > >> >I also am having this problem when trying to copy files using the
    > > > > > >> >Windows
    > > > > > >> > Explorer. Both systems (target and source) are Windows Server 2003 R2
    > > > > > >> > SP2.
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > If I try and "push" files at the target, I get this error message:
    > > > > > >> > "Cannot copy <filename>: Insufficient system resources exist to
    > > > > > >> > complete
    > > > > > >> > the
    > > > > > >> > requested service."
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > If I try and "pull" the files from the source, I get this error
    > > > > > >> > message:
    > > > > > >> > "Cannot copy <filename>: Not enough server storage space is available
    > > > > > >> > to
    > > > > > >> > process this command."
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > I've searched the knowledgebase for both error messages and found
    > > > > > >> > solutions
    > > > > > >> > to either ancient NT products, some 2000 products, but nothing for
    > > > > > >> > Server
    > > > > > >> > 2003.
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > I'm fairly certain this limitation must still be in effect or have some
    > > > > > >> > bearing on my problem:
    > > > > > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833167/en-us
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > Or less likely, something related to:
    > > > > > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/259837/en-us
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > Other details that might be pertinent:
    > > > > > >> > There is enough disk space on the destination server.
    > > > > > >> > I'm not using VSS in any way, but the service is enabled and runs as it
    > > > > > >> > sees
    > > > > > >> > fit.
    > > > > > >> > Antivirus is disabled on both sides, or enabled, but the messages are
    > > > > > >> > identical.
    > > > > > >> > I can move the files in other ways, such as, backing them up to a
    > > > > > >> > different
    > > > > > >> > media, and restoring that media to the destination.
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> Why would you use such a tortuous solution if robocopy.exe
    > > > > > >> does it in one fell swoop?
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >


  2. #17
    Pegasus \(MVP\) Guest

    Re: XCOPY Insufficient system resources problem.

    You're replying to a thread created 18 months ago, on 23 February 2007. In
    the meantime Microsoft has officially deprecated xcopy.exe. The
    recommendation is to use robocopy instead.


    "Eduardo Nazato" <EduardoNazato@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:29233D5E-E017-4D0F-BE8F-B9585B3D4BB9@microsoft.com...
    > Sorry, but even changing PagePoolMaximum didn't fixed the problem.
    > Actually, changing it or the other listed keys stopped the error message
    > from appearing, but made the copy seem to be hung (it never stops).
    >
    > As a (another) workaround, I'm using TeraCopy to copy these large files.
    > http://www.codesector.com/teracopy.php
    > It works very well, but in anyway solves the problem. Like said above:
    > Windows Sever should do this "alone", and well.
    >
    > "Ryan" wrote:
    >
    >> Sorry I didn't post the solution when I found it. What worked for me was
    >> reducing the PagePoolMaximum to 30. I had tried reducing it to 60 but
    >> apperently that wasn't low enough. It only took me a month of calls to MS
    >> to
    >> get it resolved.
    >>
    >> "Eduardo Nazato" wrote:
    >>
    >> > Hi all,
    >> >
    >> > I've been experiencing the "Insufficient system resources" problem for
    >> > a
    >> > long time, but always used other ways to circunvent it. But now I DO
    >> > need to
    >> > resolve it.
    >> >
    >> > Let me explain it: I work with server virtualization (through Virtual
    >> > Server
    >> > 2005 R2 SP1), and it's common for me to have to copy huge VHDs files
    >> > from one
    >> > server to another. But the mentioned problem appears very often, and
    >> > right
    >> > now it's really driving me mad! Next weekend, I'll need to copy this
    >> > kind of
    >> > file fast, due to downtime window.
    >> >
    >> > I think I've tried every listed solution on internet and MS articles,
    >> > and
    >> > none of them helped me:
    >> > - Xcopy didn't helped, and neither Rocobopy. Both shows me the same
    >> > problem.
    >> > - Changing IRPStackSize, PagedPoolSize, SystemPages or
    >> > PoolUsageMaximum
    >> > keys helped... with nothing! =P
    >> >
    >> > The solution that I've been using for this problem is copying the file
    >> > with
    >> > NTBackup. It works, but it's a extremelly slow solution, and I can't
    >> > wait for
    >> > so long.
    >> >
    >> > So please, anyone, is there a solution that really works? Or only on
    >> > Windows
    >> > x64 I'll finally see this damn problem resolved?
    >> >
    >> > Our servers are Dell PowerEdge 2800/2900, with Windows 2003 R2 SP2 x86,
    >> > and
    >> > they have, at least, 8Gb RAM. I'm pretty sure that they do have
    >> > suficient RAM
    >> > and free space while performing file copies.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks in advance ;)
    >> > Eduardo Nazato
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "Ryan" wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > Did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm havnig the same
    >> > > problem now
    >> > > and don't have a clue what to do next. The best lead I've gotten is
    >> > > this:
    >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;304101
    >> > >
    >> > > This doesn't seem to fix my problem. I'm thinking about further
    >> > > reducing the
    >> > > PageUsageMaximum to see if it helps on my system. Let me know if you
    >> > > find a
    >> > > solution.
    >> > >
    >> > > "Chris Wilhelm" wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > > > After some poking around, I found this article, which isn't really
    >> > > > related..
    >> > > > but is, since it's a copying of files problem we have here, not
    >> > > > specifically
    >> > > > xcopy, but copy or even copying w/ windows explorer. They all
    >> > > > error with the
    >> > > > same message.
    >> > > > The article is this:
    >> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;304101
    >> > > > and suggests this:
    >> > > > Registry setting 1
    >> > > > 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then
    >> > > > click OK.
    >> > > > 2. Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
    >> > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
    >> > > > Manager\Memory
    >> > > > Management
    >> > > > 3. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
    >> > > > 4. Type PoolUsageMaximum as the entry name, and then press ENTER.
    >> > > > 5. Right-click PoolUsageMaximum, and then click Modify.
    >> > > > 6. Click Decimal.
    >> > > > 7. In the Value data box, type 60, and then click OK.
    >> > > > 8. Quit Registry Editor.
    >> > > > 9. Restart your computer.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Which indeed has rectified the issue.
    >> > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
    >> > > >
    >> > > > > Seeing that you're talking about principles: Microsoft have
    >> > > > > decided
    >> > > > > that xcopy.exe is superseded by robocopy.exe and that xcopy
    >> > > > > should no longer be used, presumably in view of the long-standing
    >> > > > > "System resources" problem.
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > > There is another reason why robocopy is preferable (other than
    >> > > > > it richer set of switches): It can deal with path+file names in
    >> > > > > excess
    >> > > > > of 255 characters. Xcopy can't.
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > > "Chris Wilhelm" <ChrisWilhelm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >> > > > > message
    >> > > > > news:15E24C35-3539-4FF6-B105-4505622DD211@microsoft.com...
    >> > > > > > Oh I wouldn't. I just want the problem fixed, or some
    >> > > > > > discussion on how
    >> > > > > > to
    >> > > > > > fix it. It's not that I can't use robocopy, it's that I
    >> > > > > > shouldn't have
    >> > > > > > to.
    >> > > > > > You know.. the principle.
    >> > > > > >
    >> > > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
    >> > > > > >
    >> > > > > >>
    >> > > > > >> "Chris Wilhelm" <Chris Wilhelm@discussions.microsoft.com>
    >> > > > > >> wrote in
    >> > > > > >> message
    >> > > > > >> news:0753E4DA-D0B0-45A1-BCAB-8618DDFEE832@microsoft.com...
    >> > > > > >> >I also am having this problem when trying to copy files using
    >> > > > > >> >the
    >> > > > > >> >Windows
    >> > > > > >> > Explorer. Both systems (target and source) are Windows
    >> > > > > >> > Server 2003 R2
    >> > > > > >> > SP2.
    >> > > > > >> >
    >> > > > > >> > If I try and "push" files at the target, I get this error
    >> > > > > >> > message:
    >> > > > > >> > "Cannot copy <filename>: Insufficient system resources exist
    >> > > > > >> > to
    >> > > > > >> > complete
    >> > > > > >> > the
    >> > > > > >> > requested service."
    >> > > > > >> >
    >> > > > > >> > If I try and "pull" the files from the source, I get this
    >> > > > > >> > error
    >> > > > > >> > message:
    >> > > > > >> > "Cannot copy <filename>: Not enough server storage space is
    >> > > > > >> > available
    >> > > > > >> > to
    >> > > > > >> > process this command."
    >> > > > > >> >
    >> > > > > >> > I've searched the knowledgebase for both error messages and
    >> > > > > >> > found
    >> > > > > >> > solutions
    >> > > > > >> > to either ancient NT products, some 2000 products, but
    >> > > > > >> > nothing for
    >> > > > > >> > Server
    >> > > > > >> > 2003.
    >> > > > > >> >
    >> > > > > >> > I'm fairly certain this limitation must still be in effect
    >> > > > > >> > or have some
    >> > > > > >> > bearing on my problem:
    >> > > > > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833167/en-us
    >> > > > > >> >
    >> > > > > >> > Or less likely, something related to:
    >> > > > > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/259837/en-us
    >> > > > > >> >
    >> > > > > >> > Other details that might be pertinent:
    >> > > > > >> > There is enough disk space on the destination server.
    >> > > > > >> > I'm not using VSS in any way, but the service is enabled and
    >> > > > > >> > runs as it
    >> > > > > >> > sees
    >> > > > > >> > fit.
    >> > > > > >> > Antivirus is disabled on both sides, or enabled, but the
    >> > > > > >> > messages are
    >> > > > > >> > identical.
    >> > > > > >> > I can move the files in other ways, such as, backing them up
    >> > > > > >> > to a
    >> > > > > >> > different
    >> > > > > >> > media, and restoring that media to the destination.
    >> > > > > >>
    >> > > > > >> Why would you use such a tortuous solution if robocopy.exe
    >> > > > > >> does it in one fell swoop?
    >> > > > > >>
    >> > > > > >>
    >> > > > > >>
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > >




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