Vista Business, T7700, 4GB
Avast/Defender/Spybot sez "clean"
Recently had BSOD problem due to driver conflict,
detected and fixed using Verifier.
This morning, shutdown wouldn't. After 20 minutes I did
the hard thing, then restarted, stabilized, and tried
again. After another 25 minutes - the same.
There's nothing new since yesterday, and no error codes,
nothing suspicious.
I do need to shut down this laptop from time to time, so
help will be welcome.
Hank
I'd suspect whatever you did (unspecified in your post) didn't really fix
the issue and you either have bad drivers, wrong drivers, or bad hardware.
Without knowing the Stop Error details and/or what you think "driver
conflict" means, that's all I can say. Here is general information about
troubleshooting shutdown issues:
Shutdown issues are generally caused by a program and/or process that is
refusing to exit gracefully. The program and/or process can be from malware
or can be legitimate (such as an invasive antivirus like Norton or McAfee).
If you are using a Norton or McAfee product, uninstall it and replace with
a better program such as NOD32, Kasperksy, or Avast (free). The Windows
Firewall is adequate for most people. With Vista, shutdown issues can also
be caused by old/poorly written drivers so make sure all drivers are
updated. See Step B. below for general driver directions.
A.The first step is always to make sure your computer is virus/malware free.
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
B. Drivers - The First Law of Driver Updates is "if it ain't broke, don't
fix it". Normally if everything is working you want to leave things as they
are. The exception is that heavy-duty gamers will usually want to update
their video and sound drivers to squeeze every last bit of performance out
of the hardware to get the fastest frame rates. If you're not one of those
people, you don't need to update your drivers if there are no problems you
are trying to solve.
Never get drivers from Windows Update. Get them from:
1. The device mftr.'s website; OR
2. The motherboard mftr.'s website if hardware is onboard; OR
3. The OEM's website for your specific machine if you have an OEM computer
(HP, Dell, Sony, etc.).
Read the installation instructions on the website where you get the drivers.
To find out what hardware is in your computer:
1. Read any documentation you got when you bought the computer.
2. If the computer is OEM, go to the OEM's website for your specific model
machine and look at the specs (you'll be there to get the drivers anyway)
3. Download, install and run a free system inventory program like Belarc
Advisor or System Information for Windows.
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html - Belarc Advisor
http://www.gtopala.com/ - System Information for Windows
C. If the computer is virus/malware-free, drivers are current, and no Norton
or McAfee programs are installed, then do clean-boot troubleshooting to see
which program/process is the culprit:
How to perform a clean boot in Vista and XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796
D. If you need more information, here is an excellent shutdown
troubleshooter:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
Malke
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MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Malke wrote:
Good stuff.
Thanks, I'm working on it.
Malke gave you some good advice/links as always. I also have seen anything
Norton partic. NIS prevent Vista from shutting down as well as USB devices.
One of my favorite tricks that worked well in XP (but I'm not sure about
Vista) if the above and drivers aren't the cause) is to type devmgmt.msc in
the run box>do this to every USB Root hub after you expand USB controllers
by clicking the little plus on the left>rt. click USB Root hub>Power
Management tab on the extreme right>put a ck. in the box "Allow the pc to
turn off this device to save power" and do it for every USB Root Hub entry.
It will often renedy a shut down hang and it will not negetively impact your
performance in any way.
Good luck,
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