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Thread: Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

  1. #1
    Amsterdamned Guest

    Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

    I currently have Vista HP which came preinstalled but its only in Dutch. I
    was advised to upgrade to Ultimate but if I buy the Dutch version, can i
    change it to English?? Also, if I buy the English version, is it compatible
    with the HP Dutch version I have preinstalled?? I have no disk for the HP
    version currently running...

  2. #2
    Vern Linard Guest

    Re: Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

    If you buy the ultimate DUTCH version, you will be able to download the
    english language pack MUI from windows update and change your language
    interface to english, YES.

    Now if you want to buy an upgrade in ENGLISH version, its for sure that you
    will not be able to UPGRADE your already existing installation.
    Im not sure if you will be able to do a CLEAN install though.. this means
    that all the data will be erased and a new fresh install of Vista will be
    installed.

    Perhaps someone else here can clarify this.

    I always suggest to people in non english speaking countries to get the
    ENGLISH version
    of ultimate and then chose whatever language they want to install as a
    language pack.
    But this advice of course applies for first time buyers, not to you since
    you already have the Dutch version.

    "Amsterdamned" <Amsterdamned@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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    > I currently have Vista HP which came preinstalled but its only in Dutch.
    > I
    > was advised to upgrade to Ultimate but if I buy the Dutch version, can i
    > change it to English?? Also, if I buy the English version, is it
    > compatible
    > with the HP Dutch version I have preinstalled?? I have no disk for the HP
    > version currently running...



  3. #3
    Richard G. Harper Guest

    Re: Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

    Windows Vista Ultimate edition does allow the user to change languages, so
    yes that's possible. However, you cannot buy an English version and install
    it over a Dutch install - it will fail. You would need to upgrade Dutch to
    Dutch and then change the language afterwards.

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    "Amsterdamned" <Amsterdamned@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:1C3D05F9-FCD6-448B-8BE8-70552F092C70@microsoft.com...
    >I currently have Vista HP which came preinstalled but its only in Dutch. I
    > was advised to upgrade to Ultimate but if I buy the Dutch version, can i
    > change it to English?? Also, if I buy the English version, is it
    > compatible
    > with the HP Dutch version I have preinstalled?? I have no disk for the HP
    > version currently running...



  4. #4
    Vern Linard Guest

    Re: Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

    can he start the install from his dutch vista, with an upgrade english
    upgrade disk and select to do a clean install of vista ?

    "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
    news:eP00nbfeIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Windows Vista Ultimate edition does allow the user to change languages, so
    > yes that's possible. However, you cannot buy an English version and
    > install it over a Dutch install - it will fail. You would need to upgrade
    > Dutch to Dutch and then change the language afterwards.
    >
    > --
    > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
    > * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
    > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
    > * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
    >
    >
    > "Amsterdamned" <Amsterdamned@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:1C3D05F9-FCD6-448B-8BE8-70552F092C70@microsoft.com...
    >>I currently have Vista HP which came preinstalled but its only in Dutch.
    >>I
    >> was advised to upgrade to Ultimate but if I buy the Dutch version, can i
    >> change it to English?? Also, if I buy the English version, is it
    >> compatible
    >> with the HP Dutch version I have preinstalled?? I have no disk for the HP
    >> version currently running...

    >


  5. #5
    Samsi Guest
    Amsterdamned,

    I have found a way to upgrade a Dutch version of Windows Vista Home Premium to a fully working Ultimate in English. But it will take some effort!
    If you want to avoid spending 300 Euro do as follows:

    1. Make a new partition next to your Dutch OS which is probably C/:
    and constituting at least 40 GB.
    2. Download a Dell Version of the English Vista Ultimate that is pre-cracked, needs no serial #, pre-activated and Microsoft Validated. There are plenty of websites where you can download such a version from (like phazeDDl.com). It is 2.6 GB split up into 26 RapidShare files of each 100 MB you have to download and then join together with WinRAR.
    3. Install this version to your new partition now having a dual boot.
    4. Open Vista Ultimate EN and open Windows Update.
    5. Select optional updates where you will fiind all Language Packs that are only available in Ultimate. Download and install the Dutch Language Pack (150 MB - takes a while).
    6. The Dutch Language Pack will be installed in the Windows folder. The folder is called nl-NL.
    7. Upgrade your Dutch Vista Home Premium now with the installer of Ultimate which is now in Dutch and English. Dutch Premium will now accept the upgrade.
    8. Reboot either in Dutch or English - your choice.
    9. In English you can now install SP1: that is not available in Dutch yet.

    Good luck. Should there be any problems or questions you can write me.
    Ek is 'n Afrikaner wat nou in Belgie lewe, maar ek kan ook so'n bietjie Nederlands skrywe. Ek woon nie so ver van Antwerpen nie. Dis in s'-Gravenwezel soos hulle noem hier, eg 'n kleine dorpjie. Afrikaans is nie so moeilik om te begry nie, dus kan jy ook in Nederlands antwoord. Ons spreek verskillende tale: lik Afrikaans, so'n bietjie ou Nederlands (hulle noem dat in hierdie landjie "Vlaams"). En natuurlik ook English.

    Best wishes,
    Samsi Semoye

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    vista dutch to english

    I also have windows vista home premium (dutch version) and I want to have windows vista ultimate (english version) is it not posibble to make a clean new install of windows or do I really need to buy the ultimate in the dutch version and then select the english language afterwards ?

    One last thing, if I buy the dutch vista ultimate, does the english language pack come with it or do I need to download it ?

    Would anyone here know something about this ?

    Thanks, I would be grateful for any response.

    Andreas

  7. #7
    Samsi Guest
    Andreas J,

    You don't need to buy anything. The English version of VISTA Ultimate is available split into 100 MB sections from RapidShare with SP1 included.
    I have to check the latest download files though. They usually disappear after a few weeks, so you have to be fast.
    Give me a few days because I am moving and I am very busy.

    You have to reply because I don't recall which Forum this is. By that time I will provide you the download links.

    Best regards,

    Samsi

  8. #8
    It's Only Me Guest

    Re: Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

    And you're a complete tosspot. Get off your backside, get a job, a life and
    then go out and buy Vista. Rapidshare. LOL, probably full of spyware,
    viruses and the rest......... enjoy your machine controlled by outsiders,
    FOOL


    "Samsi" <Samsi.3gpyrb@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Andreas J,
    >
    > You don't need to buy -anything-. The English version of VISTA Ultimate
    > is available split into 100 MB sections from RapidShare with SP1
    > included.
    > I have to check the latest download files though. They usually
    > disappear after a few weeks, so you have to be fast.
    > Give me a few days because I am moving and I am very busy.
    >
    > You have to reply because I don't recall which Forum this is. By that
    > time I will provide you the download links.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Samsi
    >
    >
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  9. #9
    p0 Guest

    Re: Upgrading Vista Home Premium to Ultimate, Dutch to English?

    On 3 okt, 13:26, Andreas J <Andreas.J.3gp...@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
    > I also have windows vista home premium (dutch version) and I want to
    > have windows vista ultimate (english version) is it not posibble to make
    > a clean new install of windows or do I really need to buy the ultimate
    > in the dutch version and then select the english language afterwards ?
    >
    > One last thing, if I buy the dutch vista ultimate, does the english
    > language pack come with it or do I need to download it ?
    >
    > Would anyone here know something about this ?
    >
    > Thanks, I would be grateful for any response.
    >
    > Andreas
    >
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    If you have the Dutch ultimate version, you will have to download the
    language pack to switch it to English. Language packs are available
    through Windows update. The language pack for English is around 250MB
    if I remember well.

    Yves

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    Samsi Guest
    p0 wrote:
    If you have the Dutch ultimate version, you will have to download the language pack to switch it to English. Language packs are available
    through Windows update. The language pack for English is around 250MB
    if I remember well.
    The downloads I provided are for the English versions of VISTA Ultimate and Office 2007.
    The Dutch language pack for VISTA Ultimate is available as a free download.
    There is a so called Proof set for Office with over 50 languages, but is not for free. I can provide the links to a free Version though.
    But I'm getting tired of this conversation. No one ever said thanks, so go ahead with your stuff. I'm closing this topic off.

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    sorrry

    Hello Samsi,

    I didnt mean to disrespect you by not saying thanks, I just returned from a small holiday, so I can only reply you now, again sorry, I meant NO disrespect !

    By the way the way, the english language pack will not install, it comes up with an ' uknown error' have you heard of this before, or do you maybe have any solution ? (I can install any other lang. pack just not english)

    best rgds

    Andreas

  12. #12
    Samsi Guest
    Andreas J,

    no offense taken, I rather meant the others.
    I understood you had a Dutch VISTA Premium and you wanted an English Ultimate. The links I provided are for a fully working English Ultimate version. I hope you didn't spent your €€€€ to a Dutch Ultimate in the shops?
    You cannot change that version into an English version! Only the English version can be changed into some 50 other languages.
    This one is for free and also includes a working English version of Office 2007.

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    Hi Samsi,

    Ok thanks, I got ya, problem is that the guy I am helping already went out and bought the win vista ultimate dutch version now :-(
    Anyway, I tried downloading the english language pack, this one downloads and instslls ok, but windows will not not give me the option in language settings to change it to english BUT I then downloaded the danish language pack, and that also downloads and installs just fine and it shows up in the language settings AND I successfully changed windows to danish so that one works, now you are saying that out of all the language packs the only one that doesnt work is english ??? MS keeps baffling me with their sh*t :-D

  14. #14
    Samsi Guest
    Andreas J:
    Then I suppose you are Dutch, Danish or Flemish (Belgium)?
    You're still welcome to download the links for the English Language Version I provided. Then you WILL have an English Version, fully working with SP1 pre-installed and also you will have Office 2007 with SP1 pre-installed.
    The Dutch version is in fact an English Version that has been converted.
    Therefore you cannot return to the original English Version - Microsoft is American.
    Suppose you purchase a Portuguese Version. You can then download a number of languages and convert, but NOT the English Version, because that is the "mother" die! It only works one way.

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    Hey Samsi, ok thanks for clarifying all of this for me, I really appriciate your help. I will take your download files,yes I am danish, but I do prefer english windows. Now as usual i have just a couple of questions, please forgive me if you already have explained this on earlier blogs ! Do I need some sort of key ? also can i just upgrade my dutch windows or do I need to make a clean install ?

    Thanks for your time and effort in helping me.

    Andreas

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