How to boot after changing Motherboard?

[markharris2000@comcast.net]

Hi, I have a Vista Ultimate machine on AMD X2 motherboard today. It
was originally XP, then I used Vista Business Upgrade CD to get to
Vista Business, then I used ANYTIME Upgrade @ microsoft.com $139 to
get to Vista Ultimate. Everything is fine.

Now I want to swap the motherboard to a Intel Duo 2 based unit. I am
pretty certyain a simple motherboard swap will leave me in a blue-
screen since the CPU and chipset are very different. I am kinda sure
that Vista won't even boot when I power it on.

So, how can I swap the mobo and then 'repair' to a full Vista Ultimate
situation.

I have a Vista Business Upgrade CD and a ANYTIME Upgrade 'universal'
CDROM available. I also have a Vista Busines Upgrade KEY, and the
ANYTIME Upgrade "slupkg-ms" file which was in my Digital Locker at
Mirosoft when I purchased the Ultimate upgrade.

Can anyone suggest the steps to get from current AMD system, to new
Intel system?

[brink]

I would make a backup of any thing you don't want to loose to DVD or
some other external device before you switch MOBO. If it lets you boot,
you'll definately will need to reactivate Vista. Most likely by having
to call the activation line at Microsoft. It may be less hassle to just
do clean install.


Good luck,
Shawn


--
brink

Vista 64 Home Premium
1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

[Rock]

<markharris2000@comcast.net> wrote
> Hi, I have a Vista Ultimate machine on AMD X2 motherboard today. It
> was originally XP, then I used Vista Business Upgrade CD to get to
> Vista Business, then I used ANYTIME Upgrade @ microsoft.com $139 to
> get to Vista Ultimate. Everything is fine.
>
> Now I want to swap the motherboard to a Intel Duo 2 based unit. I am
> pretty certyain a simple motherboard swap will leave me in a blue-
> screen since the CPU and chipset are very different. I am kinda sure
> that Vista won't even boot when I power it on.
>
> So, how can I swap the mobo and then 'repair' to a full Vista Ultimate
> situation.
>
> I have a Vista Business Upgrade CD and a ANYTIME Upgrade 'universal'
> CDROM available. I also have a Vista Busines Upgrade KEY, and the
> ANYTIME Upgrade "slupkg-ms" file which was in my Digital Locker at
> Mirosoft when I purchased the Ultimate upgrade.
>
> Can anyone suggest the steps to get from current AMD system, to new
> Intel system?


The normal way to try this would be to run setup repair a few times. This
is run by booting the Visa DVD. In your case though the DVD you have is for
Business and the version installed is Ultimate. I don't know if that will
work. You may end up having to reinstall Vista Business clean, then do the
Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[markharris2000@comcast.net]

Funny how Microsoft's new 'system' will probably prevent me from doing
what I really want to. I am hoping for the best, but fully expect to
have to do a clean Vista Business installation, followed by a ANYTIME
upgrade using my upgrade license and ANYTIME DVD. What a pain...


On Apr 29, 11:56 pm, "Rock" <R...@nospam.net> wrote:
> <markharris2...@comcast.net> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi, I have a Vista Ultimate machine on AMD X2 motherboard today. It
> > was originally XP, then I used Vista Business Upgrade CD to get to
> > Vista Business, then I used ANYTIME Upgrade @ microsoft.com $139 to
> > get to Vista Ultimate. Everything is fine.
>
> > Now I want to swap the motherboard to a Intel Duo 2 based unit. I am
> > pretty certyain a simple motherboard swap will leave me in a blue-
> > screen since the CPU and chipset are very different. I am kinda sure
> > that Vista won't even boot when I power it on.
>
> > So, how can I swap the mobo and then 'repair' to a full Vista Ultimate
> > situation.
>
> > I have a Vista Business Upgrade CD and a ANYTIME Upgrade 'universal'
> > CDROM available. I also have a Vista Busines Upgrade KEY, and the
> > ANYTIME Upgrade "slupkg-ms" file which was in my Digital Locker at
> > Mirosoft when I purchased the Ultimate upgrade.
>
> > Can anyone suggest the steps to get from current AMD system, to new
> > Intel system?
>
> The normal way to try this would be to run setup repair a few times. This
> is run by booting the Visa DVD. In your case though the DVD you have is for
> Business and the version installed is Ultimate. I don't know if that will
> work. You may end up having to reinstall Vista Business clean, then do the
> Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Rock]

<markharris2000@comcast.net> wrote

> Funny how Microsoft's new 'system' will probably prevent me from doing
> what I really want to. I am hoping for the best, but fully expect to
> have to do a clean Vista Business installation, followed by a ANYTIME
> upgrade using my upgrade license and ANYTIME DVD. What a pain...

> On Apr 29, 11:56 pm, "Rock" <R...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> <markharris2...@comcast.net> wrote

>> > Hi, I have a Vista Ultimate machine on AMD X2 motherboard today. It
>> > was originally XP, then I used Vista Business Upgrade CD to get to
>> > Vista Business, then I used ANYTIME Upgrade @ microsoft.com $139 to
>> > get to Vista Ultimate. Everything is fine.
>>
>> > Now I want to swap the motherboard to a Intel Duo 2 based unit. I am
>> > pretty certyain a simple motherboard swap will leave me in a blue-
>> > screen since the CPU and chipset are very different. I am kinda sure
>> > that Vista won't even boot when I power it on.
>>
>> > So, how can I swap the mobo and then 'repair' to a full Vista Ultimate
>> > situation.
>>
>> > I have a Vista Business Upgrade CD and a ANYTIME Upgrade 'universal'
>> > CDROM available. I also have a Vista Busines Upgrade KEY, and the
>> > ANYTIME Upgrade "slupkg-ms" file which was in my Digital Locker at
>> > Mirosoft when I purchased the Ultimate upgrade.
>>
>> > Can anyone suggest the steps to get from current AMD system, to new
>> > Intel system?
>>
>> The normal way to try this would be to run setup repair a few times.
>> This
>> is run by booting the Visa DVD. In your case though the DVD you have is
>> for
>> Business and the version installed is Ultimate. I don't know if that
>> will
>> work. You may end up having to reinstall Vista Business clean, then do
>> the
>> Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate.


It's not clear to me why the AU was set up how it was. Why not just send
you a new license key? All versions of Vista are on the retail DVDs so if
you have the DVD, all you need is the product key. Of course that doesn't
work if you don't have the DVD, as in OEM preinstalled versions.

I don't like the whole idea of using an upgrade version either, since it's
tied to the qualifying OS. I have always gone for a full, retail version in
the flavor I wanted.

Good luck. Post back the outcome if you can.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[brink]

Rock;294352 Wrote:
>
> It's not clear to me why the AU was set up how it was. Why not just
> send
> you a new license key? All versions of Vista are on the retail DVDs so
> if
> you have the DVD, all you need is the product key. Of course that
> doesn't
> work if you don't have the DVD, as in OEM preinstalled versions.
>
> I don't like the whole idea of using an upgrade version either, since
> it's
> tied to the qualifying OS. I have always gone for a full, retail
> version in
> the flavor I wanted.
>
> Good luck. Post back the outcome if you can.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Hi Rock,

You can do a clean install on a Upgrade version without using the other
OS. Just have to install once without entering PID#, then install again
within that install of Vista & enter the PID # this time. It will
activate. Grant it, it is more if a hassle than full version, but it's
cheaper & technically ok if you have a valid copy of say XP. So, it's
really not tied to the old OS unless it's a OEM.

Shawn


--
brink

"Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
Vista 64 Home Premium
1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

[Rock]

"brink" <brink.2pxqq5@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> Rock;294352 Wrote:
>>
>> It's not clear to me why the AU was set up how it was. Why not just
>> send
>> you a new license key? All versions of Vista are on the retail DVDs so
>> if
>> you have the DVD, all you need is the product key. Of course that
>> doesn't
>> work if you don't have the DVD, as in OEM preinstalled versions.
>>
>> I don't like the whole idea of using an upgrade version either, since
>> it's
>> tied to the qualifying OS. I have always gone for a full, retail
>> version in
>> the flavor I wanted.
>>
>> Good luck. Post back the outcome if you can.

> Hi Rock,
>
> You can do a clean install on a Upgrade version without using the other
> OS. Just have to install once without entering PID#, then install again
> within that install of Vista & enter the PID # this time. It will
> activate. Grant it, it is more if a hassle than full version, but it's
> cheaper & technically ok if you have a valid copy of say XP. So, it's
> really not tied to the old OS unless it's a OEM.


I'm aware of the double install method. That's not what the main issue is
here. The OP has an Anytime Upgrade and wants to do a motherboard change.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[Rock]

<markharris2000@comcast.net> wrote
> Funny how Microsoft's new 'system' will probably prevent me from doing
> what I really want to. I am hoping for the best, but fully expect to
> have to do a clean Vista Business installation, followed by a ANYTIME
> upgrade using my upgrade license and ANYTIME DVD. What a pain...

> On Apr 29, 11:56 pm, "Rock" <R...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> <markharris2...@comcast.net> wrote

>> > Hi, I have a Vista Ultimate machine on AMD X2 motherboard today. It
>> > was originally XP, then I used Vista Business Upgrade CD to get to
>> > Vista Business, then I used ANYTIME Upgrade @ microsoft.com $139 to
>> > get to Vista Ultimate. Everything is fine.
>>
>> > Now I want to swap the motherboard to a Intel Duo 2 based unit. I am
>> > pretty certyain a simple motherboard swap will leave me in a blue-
>> > screen since the CPU and chipset are very different. I am kinda sure
>> > that Vista won't even boot when I power it on.
>>
>> > So, how can I swap the mobo and then 'repair' to a full Vista Ultimate
>> > situation.
>>
>> > I have a Vista Business Upgrade CD and a ANYTIME Upgrade 'universal'
>> > CDROM available. I also have a Vista Busines Upgrade KEY, and the
>> > ANYTIME Upgrade "slupkg-ms" file which was in my Digital Locker at
>> > Mirosoft when I purchased the Ultimate upgrade.
>>
>> > Can anyone suggest the steps to get from current AMD system, to new
>> > Intel system?
>>
>> The normal way to try this would be to run setup repair a few times.
>> This
>> is run by booting the Visa DVD. In your case though the DVD you have is
>> for
>> Business and the version installed is Ultimate. I don't know if that
>> will
>> work. You may end up having to reinstall Vista Business clean, then do
>> the
>> Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>


Mark I just realized something. The startup repair might just work from the
Vista Business DVD because all versions are on the DVD. There is no
difference between upgrade and full, or any of the vista versions. The
difference is in the product key. I don't know if there is anything in your
installation since it was arrived at by the Anytime Upgrade that would
interfere with the startup repair not working. I think there is hope here.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[brink]

Good point Rock,

May end up having to call Microsoft's activation line & explain to them
so they will allow the activation with PID#.

Shawn


--
brink

"Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
Vista 64 Home Premium
1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

[Rock]

"brink" <brink.2pzk0j@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:brink.2pzk0j@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> Good point Rock,
>
> May end up having to call Microsoft's activation line & explain to them
> so they will allow the activation with PID#.


He wants to avoid having to install Vista. It's already installed on the
hard drive, he wants to upgrade the hardware and use the drive that has
Vista installed. In XP one would do a repair install. In Vista the
counterpart would be a startup repair. The gotcha is that the installed
version is based on an installation of Vista Business that was then upgraded
to Ultimate from an Anytime Upgrade. It's not clear what running a setup
repair from the Vista DVD will do in this scenario. I hope it works.

One can also do an in place upgrade with in Vista, similar to the
traditional repair install in XP. This is started by running the upgrade
from the DVD from the Vista desktop, but you have to do the upgrade with the
same version installed. Again it's not clear if he can do that to an
installation that was upgraded using the Anytime Upgrade, nor do we have
much info on the impact of that kind of in place upgrade on helping the type
of issue he has. There are way more questions than we have answers right
now. The added factor is that even if all these repairs can be run, it
might not get his system up and running. In XP if the changes were great
enough, a repair install might not do it, leaving a clean install as the
last option. It will be interesting to see the outcome here.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[NotMe]

I agree. In that respect, I liked W98/ME better.
I swapped out many a board on W98/ME machines without having to do a
reinstall.
It should be interesting to see if a reinstall is even possible without
wiping the drive after the anytime upgrade.
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"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "brink" <brink.2pzk0j@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Good point Rock,
>>
>> May end up having to call Microsoft's activation line & explain to them
>> so they will allow the activation with PID#.
>
>
> He wants to avoid having to install Vista. It's already installed on the
> hard drive, he wants to upgrade the hardware and use the drive that has
> Vista installed. In XP one would do a repair install. In Vista the
> counterpart would be a startup repair. The gotcha is that the installed
> version is based on an installation of Vista Business that was then
> upgraded to Ultimate from an Anytime Upgrade. It's not clear what running
> a setup repair from the Vista DVD will do in this scenario. I hope it
> works.
>
> One can also do an in place upgrade with in Vista, similar to the
> traditional repair install in XP. This is started by running the upgrade
> from the DVD from the Vista desktop, but you have to do the upgrade with
> the same version installed. Again it's not clear if he can do that to an
> installation that was upgraded using the Anytime Upgrade, nor do we have
> much info on the impact of that kind of in place upgrade on helping the
> type of issue he has. There are way more questions than we have answers
> right now. The added factor is that even if all these repairs can be
> run, it might not get his system up and running. In XP if the changes
> were great enough, a repair install might not do it, leaving a clean
> install as the last option. It will be interesting to see the outcome
> here.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[brink]

Rock;295587 Wrote:
> "brink" <brink.2pzk0j@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:brink.2pzk0j@no-mx.forums.net...
> >
> > Good point Rock,
> >
> > May end up having to call Microsoft's activation line & explain to
> them
> > so they will allow the activation with PID#.
>
>
> He wants to avoid having to install Vista. It's already installed on
> the
> hard drive, he wants to upgrade the hardware and use the drive that has
> Vista installed. In XP one would do a repair install. In Vista the
> counterpart would be a startup repair. The gotcha is that the installed
> version is based on an installation of Vista Business that was then
> upgraded
> to Ultimate from an Anytime Upgrade. It's not clear what running a
> setup
> repair from the Vista DVD will do in this scenario. I hope it works.
>
> One can also do an in place upgrade with in Vista, similar to the
> traditional repair install in XP. This is started by running the
> upgrade
> from the DVD from the Vista desktop, but you have to do the upgrade
> with the
> same version installed. Again it's not clear if he can do that to an
> installation that was upgraded using the Anytime Upgrade, nor do we
> have
> much info on the impact of that kind of in place upgrade on helping the
> type
> of issue he has. There are way more questions than we have answers
> right
> now. The added factor is that even if all these repairs can be run, it
> might not get his system up and running. In XP if the changes were
> great
> enough, a repair install might not do it, leaving a clean install as
> the
> last option. It will be interesting to see the outcome here.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


Yeah I know Rock,

I just hope he can to. With the PID# tied to the old motherboard, and
having the anytime upgrade on top of that. It's pretty much uncharted
waters right now. Maybe, maybe not. Just make backups of all the data
& hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. A FULL REINSTALL.
Please post the results for everyone else to reference.

Thanks,
Shawn


--
brink

"Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
Vista 64 Home Premium
1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

[markharris2000@comcast.net]

AFter trying everything, I found myself chasing my tail. The Anytime
Upgrade CD combined with the Business Upgrade CD version of Vista put
me in dark territory. There was no way to BOOT with either CD and have
them be happy.

Ultimately I found myself installing a fresh copy of Vista Bus, Then
anytime activation to Ultimate. A few phone calls to the MS activation
line were also required. The first two people couldn't understand why
a montherboard swap forced the situation and they kept asking me (no
joke) at least 5 times 'How many PCs do you have this license
installed on?". I finally gave up trying to explain, and simply called
back and said nothing about how I got here. Just said my code didn't
work. They gave me the needed info and now I was running again.

Vista repair is NOT nearly as good in this niche respect as XP was.

regards,


On May 3, 8:06 pm, brink <brink.2q1...@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:
> Rock;295587 Wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "brink" <brink.2pz...@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> >news:brink.2pzk0j@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> > > Good point Rock,
>
> > > May end up having to call Microsoft's activation line & explain to
> > them
> > > so they will allow the activation with PID#.
>
> > He wants to avoid having to install Vista. It's already installed on
> > the
> > hard drive, he wants to upgrade the hardware and use the drive that has
> > Vista installed. In XP one would do a repair install. In Vista the
> > counterpart would be a startup repair. The gotcha is that the installed
> > version is based on an installation of Vista Business that was then
> > upgraded
> > to Ultimate from an Anytime Upgrade. It's not clear what running a
> > setup
> > repair from the Vista DVD will do in this scenario. I hope it works.
>
> > One can also do an in place upgrade with in Vista, similar to the
> > traditional repair install in XP. This is started by running the
> > upgrade
> > from the DVD from the Vista desktop, but you have to do the upgrade
> > with the
> > same version installed. Again it's not clear if he can do that to an
> > installation that was upgraded using the Anytime Upgrade, nor do we
> > have
> > much info on the impact of that kind of in place upgrade on helping the
> > type
> > of issue he has. There are way more questions than we have answers
> > right
> > now. The added factor is that even if all these repairs can be run, it
> > might not get his system up and running. In XP if the changes were
> > great
> > enough, a repair install might not do it, leaving a clean install as
> > the
> > last option. It will be interesting to see the outcome here.
>
> > --
> > Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
> Yeah I know Rock,
>
> I just hope he can to. With the PID# tied to the old motherboard, and
> having the anytime upgrade on top of that. It's pretty much uncharted
> waters right now. Maybe, maybe not. Just make backups of all the data
> & hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. A FULL REINSTALL.
> Please post the results for everyone else to reference.
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
>
> --
> brink
>
> "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
> Vista 64 Home Premium
> 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Rock]

<markharris2000@comcast.net> wrote
> AFter trying everything, I found myself chasing my tail. The Anytime
> Upgrade CD combined with the Business Upgrade CD version of Vista put
> me in dark territory. There was no way to BOOT with either CD and have
> them be happy.
>
> Ultimately I found myself installing a fresh copy of Vista Bus, Then
> anytime activation to Ultimate. A few phone calls to the MS activation
> line were also required. The first two people couldn't understand why
> a montherboard swap forced the situation and they kept asking me (no
> joke) at least 5 times 'How many PCs do you have this license
> installed on?". I finally gave up trying to explain, and simply called
> back and said nothing about how I got here. Just said my code didn't
> work. They gave me the needed info and now I was running again.
>
> Vista repair is NOT nearly as good in this niche respect as XP was.
>
> regards,

Thanks for posting back to update the outcome. Sorry you had to go through
all this trouble. I have been hesitant to recommend the Anytime Upgrade
just because there are so many undefined issues.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

[M. W. Maddocks]

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:02:39 -0700, markharris2000@comcast.net wrote:

>AFter trying everything, I found myself chasing my tail. The Anytime
>Upgrade CD combined with the Business Upgrade CD version of Vista put
>me in dark territory. There was no way to BOOT with either CD and have
>them be happy.
<snip>

You said you tried everything - were you able to get any kind of boot
after the MB change or was it "Blue Screen" city? I'm thinking of the
exact same thing and am wondering if you got a boot at all. I don't
have the version issues you do since mine was the Ultimate install and
activasion from the start.

Thanks!

Maddie
>