Connecting Vista HOME PREMIUM edition to Samba/MacOS servers???

[Creech]

So I'm running into the same problem a number of others have seen regarding
not getting authentication when connecting to a Mac or Samba Server. I've
seen a couple of different solutions that all involve opening SECPOL.MSC and
making changes, but unfortuantly this file does not exist on Premium Home
edition of Vista, despite it being noted in the Help file.

Is the file there and I'm just not seeing it in \windows\system32? is it
elsewhere? Is there a reason a search of the entire drive would not show it?


Bottom line: Is there another work around that does not involve changes to
the Local Security Policy (which doens't exist under administration tools,
nor does the SECPOL.MSC file on Home Premium)?

Your assistance is appriciated.

[Jimmy Brush]

Changing the following registry key should achieve the same effect:

In:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa

Create the following DWORD value (if it doesn't exist):

LmCompatibilityLevel

And set its value to:

1

[Peter Leckett]

I have home premium and followed your instructions regarding accessing vista
from linux/samba box. Setting the registry key did not work. Any other
suggestions?

[davedalton2]

I'm having the same issue with Vista Home Premium and the regedit
LmCompatibilityLevel DWORD = 1 did not help with an older Adaptec
product called a SnapServer. According to another thread, I need do
the equivalent in Home Premium:

1) Click Start
2) Click Control Panel (not classic view)
3) Click System & Maintenance
4) Click Administrative Tools
5) Double Click Local Security Policy
6) On the left pane, click to expand Local Policies
7) On the left pane, click on Security Options
8) Now, on the right pane, near the bottom, click on
Network Security LAN Manager Authentication Level
9) On the drop down, change the default setting (NTLMv2 only) to
Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session if negotiated.

Are there additional registry entries that will mimic the above
changes?

Thanks very much

[Malke]

If the target system is running a current version of Samba, either make
the changes with secpol (or with regedit for Home Premium versions).
From your post, it would seem that you aren't running a typical *nix or
OS X box with current Samba on it which is a different situation than
the OP had. Check to see 1) if there is a firmware update for the Snap
Server if it is a sort of NAS; 2) if it is just running a verion of *nix
if you can update its Samba.

[davedalton2]

If the target system is running a current version of Samba,
either make
the changes with secpol (or with regedit for Home Premium versions).
From your post, it would seem that you aren't running a typical *nix
or
OS X box with current Samba on it which is a different situation than
the OP had. Check to see 1) if there is a firmware update for the Snap
Server if it is a sort of NAS; 2) if it is just running a verion of
*nix
if you can update its Samba.

The SnapServer is a NAS device running the Snap OS and the company
claims no support for Vista and no more software/firmware upgrades.
Are there any additional registry changes in Vista Home Premium that
might work?

[Malke]

Sorry, not that I know of. Most NAS devices run an in-house-designed
variety of Linux but unless your device allows you to make changes,
you're SOL. AFAIK.

[devisionbell]

I need to use this regedit for my Vista home premium laptop running on a home network with various flavours of Mac OSX.

Could somebody please explain any potential hazards to lowering the HKEY of the LSA to 1 for someone using a laptop on a home network as well as a public network. Am I making my laptop vulnerable when it is on a public network?

many thanks!

[ledzeppelin]

Changing LmCompatibilityLevel value to 1 doesn't work either. I killed
explorer.exe and started it again and tried to connect to my storage
router (WRTSL54GS) and the shares still show as empty.

[Malke]

Please see my answer to your previous post. Again, you are posting not on a
web forum but on a website that leeches Usenet posts. This makes it
basically impossible for people using Usenet properly to help you. Also
having two separate threads going that address the same issue makes helping
you extremely difficult. For instance, the information provided in *this*
thread - slight as it is - illuminates the *other* thread somewhat.

I cannot really guess at your situation since I don't have all the details
of your setup. However, you should check with the NAS mftr. (I assume by
"storage router" you mean some sort of a NAS/router combo?) to see if there
is a firmware update and/or if it is compatible with Vista and OS X.

A very useful site for Mac/Windows issues is www.macwindows.com. There might
be something there to help you.

Please read the information I gave you in the other thread about posting to
Usenet and then pick *one* of your threads and give the full particulars
about your equipment, computers, problem, and what you've already done.

[ledzeppelin]

I don't see another thread that address issue I've put up. Also, I don't
see how info provided in this thread has any relation with any other
thread. My "storage router", as I mentioned the model number WRTSL54GS
is a Linksys router that allows hooking up an external storage via its
built-in USB 2.0 port. This router-NAS combo, via its firmware, allows
partitions on this external storage to be shared and accessible by
users.

I was able to access these shares just fine when on XP 32-bit SP3 but
after moving to Vista 64-bit Home Premium and Windows 7 64-bit
Enterprise edition, all I see are share names that are empty. Any
attempt to create a directory or place a file result in an error.

The solution mentioned in this thread to change registry key value of
LMAuthenticationLevel to 1 does not work. I see a problem with Vista
(and Windows 7) being unable to communicate with my shares on the
network that are hosted on a Samba server. I don't think this is a
firmware issue (I have the latest anyway).

[Malke]

Because, as I already said, you're not posting to Usenet using a newsreader
in a conventional fashion. I am.

Since a real newsreader shows two threads about the same issue, that is why
information provided here is relevant.

You need to check with Linksys tech support. There is a known issue with
authentication between Vista and Linux/Unix-based systems (not limited to
actual computers but including NAS devices and other Linux-based devices
such as your "storage router"). In these cases, usually changing the Lan
Manager authentication method on Vista takes care of it. Firmware updates
often patched/upgrade the version of Samba being used on the *nix device
which also helps, although you must still do the registry/secpol change on
Vista.

Since your "storage router" doesn't work properly with both Vista and Win7,
I would look to the "storage router" as being the problem child in the
relationship. Unlike Vista, Win7 has no problem connecting to *nix-based
systems over a LAN and needs no registry/secpol hacking. My Win 7 Ultimate
64-bit had no issues whatsoever connecting to my OS X computers (Unix-based)
or my Linux systems from the get-go.

So I'm sorry that I don't have a definitive answer for you. Linksys support
is actually quite good and they would be your next recourse. Again, checking
on the forums would also be a good thing to do.

[Charlie Tame]

Malke. I recently updated to Ubuntu 9.04 on 3 machines at home and 1 at
work, strangely enough the 3 at home could not see stuff on the network
but the one at work has no trouble. I searched around a bit and saw
several command line suggestions, none of which worked but finally
installed "Gadmin Samba", let it get rid of the old smb.conf and things
worked again.

Not sure but it seems that some settings do not "Stick" in the regular
..conf - how that can be I do not know, but from what I read it seems
that Samba has recently been updated for security reasons and maybe the
MAC O/S got an update the O/P is not aware of. IOW could this be a
coincidence. I still do not know why the machine at work (Using it now)
had no problems but thought the experience might be useful...

[Malke]

Hmmm. I don't know but in your case since you say you "updated to 9.04" I'd
guess some old smb.conf settings were carried forward. I run 9.04 in VMware
Fusion on OS X (and that's where I'm posting to you from). If OS X has had
any Samba updates other than what might have come along with Snow Leopard I
don't know about them. I'm running Snow Leopard on my Macs now but had
Leopard on there previously with no issues networking with Win7 ever (except
for a very early beta). The Ubuntu 9.04 vm is relatively new; I had an older
openSUSE vm before. With Win7 I've been running RTM since it appeared on
MSDN/Technet. It was one of the pleasant surprises for me that Win7 saw and
shared with the Macs and the Linux vm immediately. It was as easy as it is
with OS X, and that's really saying something. ;-) So I do think the OP's
problem is that something isn't right on the Linksys, not the computers.

[Charlie Tame]

Sorry I was not clear, they were new installs because actual "Updates"
don't seem to work very well. Two were 7 something and only one an 8
version so it would have meant updating twice on two of them, not pretty
:) However I also have a Linksys router at home but at work is a Cisco
and I have not had to change anything here, but to be fair the PCs all
run XP Pro too so who knows? You may have a point though because Linksys
is a common factor.