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Thread: "All users" desktop and start menu?

  1. #1
    Karlos Guest

    "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Where is the All users\desktop, start menu etc for Vista. Neither the
    C:\documents and settings\All users seems to work (access denied) nor the All
    users folder in the C:\Users folder.

    I'd like to be able to define a start menu and desktop icons for all users
    of the Vista machine we have but can't find where? The "Explore all users"
    option when right clicking the start button has gone

  2. #2
    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Hello,

    > Where is the All users\desktop


    The all users desktop has been moved to:

    c:\users\Public\Public Desktop\

    In order to add items to it, you will need to be running an "administrator"
    explorer.

    - Click start
    - Type: explorer
    - Right-click Windows Explorer
    - Click Run As Administrator

    This explorer window will now have full administrator privledges, and will
    allow you to modify the Public Desktop folder.

    You will find many other "all user" folders in the Public folder.

    > start menu


    The all user start menu is in:

    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\

    Also, same rules apply for the "administrator" explorer window.

    - JB


  3. #3
    Karlos Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Jimmy,

    Thanks thats perfect

    Karl

    "Jimmy Brush" wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > > Where is the All users\desktop

    >
    > The all users desktop has been moved to:
    >
    > c:\users\Public\Public Desktop\
    >
    > In order to add items to it, you will need to be running an "administrator"
    > explorer.
    >
    > - Click start
    > - Type: explorer
    > - Right-click Windows Explorer
    > - Click Run As Administrator
    >
    > This explorer window will now have full administrator privledges, and will
    > allow you to modify the Public Desktop folder.
    >
    > You will find many other "all user" folders in the Public folder.
    >
    > > start menu

    >
    > The all user start menu is in:
    >
    > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\
    >
    > Also, same rules apply for the "administrator" explorer window.
    >
    > - JB
    >


  4. #4
    Karlos Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Ooops, spoke too soon!

    I still can't get into the \programdata\start menu folder. It tells me
    access denied even though I'm logged in as an administrator. If i right
    click and choose the "run as administrator" option on Explorer i get the wait
    cursor briefly like it's about to open explorer... then nothing happens! Bug?

    Thanks for your help

    "Karlos" wrote:

    > Jimmy,
    >
    > Thanks thats perfect
    >
    > Karl
    >
    > "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
    >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > > Where is the All users\desktop

    > >
    > > The all users desktop has been moved to:
    > >
    > > c:\users\Public\Public Desktop\
    > >
    > > In order to add items to it, you will need to be running an "administrator"
    > > explorer.
    > >
    > > - Click start
    > > - Type: explorer
    > > - Right-click Windows Explorer
    > > - Click Run As Administrator
    > >
    > > This explorer window will now have full administrator privledges, and will
    > > allow you to modify the Public Desktop folder.
    > >
    > > You will find many other "all user" folders in the Public folder.
    > >
    > > > start menu

    > >
    > > The all user start menu is in:
    > >
    > > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\
    > >
    > > Also, same rules apply for the "administrator" explorer window.
    > >
    > > - JB
    > >


  5. #5
    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Humm yep that is a bug .. I have heard of other people with this problem
    too. There should be no problem running Windows Explorer as administrator.

    You can also disable the User Account Protection, which is what make
    Administrators run programs with limited permissions by default. This will
    reset Admin behavior back to the way it was in XP. However, Microsoft highly
    recommends that you do not do this.

    The option is located in Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety ->
    User Accounts -> Change Security Settings

    - JB


  6. #6
    _Mark Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    I have already tried that. Definately is a bug since I cannot access those
    areas..


  7. #7
    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Ah I just noticed you are running build 5456 ...

    There's a bug in 5456 that prevents you from running explorer.exe as admin
    ....

    However, you should be able to access those folders after you disable UAC.

    - JB


  8. #8
    Matt Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    This is still happening in the final release for me, anyone else managed to
    add items to the all users start menu?

    "Jimmy Brush" wrote:

    > Ah I just noticed you are running build 5456 ...
    >
    > There's a bug in 5456 that prevents you from running explorer.exe as admin
    > ...
    >
    > However, you should be able to access those folders after you disable UAC.
    >
    > - JB
    > 5


  9. #9
    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Hello,

    Sorry I no longer have this thread...

    You are attempting to add data to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start
    Menu, correct?


    --
    - JB
    Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

    Windows Vista Support Faq
    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


  10. #10
    Matt Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Hi

    yep thats right, whenever I try to add anything I get "cannot add shortcuts
    to here do you wish to add to your desktop". It will let me add new folders
    though.

    just experimenting with our student lab image as we rearrange the menu to
    group applications.

    thanks Matt

    "Jimmy Brush" wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > Sorry I no longer have this thread...
    >
    > You are attempting to add data to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start
    > Menu, correct?
    >
    >
    > --
    > - JB
    > Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >
    > Windows Vista Support Faq
    > http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
    >


  11. #11
    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Yeah, I'm getting that behavior as well.

    That stinks.

    As a workaround, you can create the shortcuts in a temporary folder and then
    move them into the start menu folder.


    --
    - JB
    Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

    Windows Vista Support Faq
    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


  12. #12
    Matt Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    good idea, I'll do that for the moment until i can find out why it does this

    can't see anything documented on it at all



    "Jimmy Brush" wrote:

    > Yeah, I'm getting that behavior as well.
    >
    > That stinks.
    >
    > As a workaround, you can create the shortcuts in a temporary folder and then
    > move them into the start menu folder.
    >
    >
    > --
    > - JB
    > Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >
    > Windows Vista Support Faq
    > http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
    >


  13. #13
    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    My guess is that it was technically infeasable to request for "elevation"
    during the creation of a shortcut, so they decided to just not allow
    creation of shortcuts in folders that the user needs to elevate to gain
    write access to.


    --
    - JB
    Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

    Windows Vista Support Faq
    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


  14. #14
    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Matt

    You can Copy a shortcut, in another location and then Paste a shortcut to
    that All Users Start Menu folder, but you need to right click the folder
    itself (in the folder tree) and not inside the folder.

    --


    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User

    "Matt" <Matt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AA83F2D8-59F3-430E-A5E7-F8B01C808D24@microsoft.com...
    > Hi
    >
    > yep thats right, whenever I try to add anything I get "cannot add
    > shortcuts
    > to here do you wish to add to your desktop". It will let me add new
    > folders
    > though.
    >
    > just experimenting with our student lab image as we rearrange the menu to
    > group applications.
    >
    > thanks Matt
    >
    > "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> Sorry I no longer have this thread...
    >>
    >> You are attempting to add data to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start
    >> Menu, correct?
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> - JB
    >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >> Windows Vista Support Faq
    >> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
    >>



  15. #15
    Matt Guest

    Re: "All users" desktop and start menu?

    Ok thanks

    "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

    > Matt
    >
    > You can Copy a shortcut, in another location and then Paste a shortcut to
    > that All Users Start Menu folder, but you need to right click the folder
    > itself (in the folder tree) and not inside the folder.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > Ronnie Vernon
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Shell/User
    >
    > "Matt" <Matt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:AA83F2D8-59F3-430E-A5E7-F8B01C808D24@microsoft.com...
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > yep thats right, whenever I try to add anything I get "cannot add
    > > shortcuts
    > > to here do you wish to add to your desktop". It will let me add new
    > > folders
    > > though.
    > >
    > > just experimenting with our student lab image as we rearrange the menu to
    > > group applications.
    > >
    > > thanks Matt
    > >
    > > "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hello,
    > >>
    > >> Sorry I no longer have this thread...
    > >>
    > >> You are attempting to add data to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start
    > >> Menu, correct?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> - JB
    > >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
    > >>
    > >> Windows Vista Support Faq
    > >> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
    > >>

    >


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