Can't use both wired and wireless networking at same time

[Bob Campbell]

"Ferd Burfel" <ferd@burfel.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message
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>> "Ferd Burfel" <ferd@burfel.net> wrote in message
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>>> It's just the way I'd set my network up if I was boot legging off my
>>> neighbor's wireless. :~)
>>
>> Would those neighbors be The Farkle family? Frank and Fanny Farkle,
>> Flicker Farkle ("Hi!"), Sparkle Farkle, and the twins Simon and Gar
>> Farkle?
>
> That would be them.
>
> Fine looking family Frank has there.

Coming from the good friend and trusted neighbor, that means a lot!

Ah, memories............

[nemo]

On Oct 9, 8:53 pm, "Ferd Burfel" <f...@burfel.net> wrote:
> It's just the way I'd set my network up if I was boot legging off my
> neighbor's wireless. :~)

Or if you had two rooms with computers (home office and family room).
Perhaps you bought a POS machine running Vista and can't connect your
printer directly to it, so you have to use a old Pentium MMX machine
connected via Ethernet to act as a printer server. Actually Vista is
not the real issue, the lack of a parallel port on the laptop prevents
a direct hookup.

I don't know the Farkles. Are they the family that moved into the
station wagon parked at the trailer park down the road?

[nemo]

On Oct 8, 6:33 pm, VistaLava <gu...@unknown-email.com> wrote:
> i do what ur trying to achieve all day everyday on my Vista laptop, so
> let me just tell you its not a fault of the OS. Heres a quick rundown. I
> have the internet cable modem connected to the wired network, or usb,
> with auto configured IP which successfully comes from the Network
> Provider. I then have manual configured IP address's for the wireless
> network, configuring the box sharing the connection as 192.168.0.1 and
> the other boxes with gateway set to 192.168.0.1 Then on the shared
> connection box i configure to share the connection on the wired adapter
> with the wireless. And it works all the time, everytime, 100% reliable.
> XP used to be flaky on the wireless connection to my PDA especially, but
> Vista is awesome.

If I understand what you are saying, you have the cable modem on a
wired network (which is irrelevant to the rest of this) and a wireless
net (the important part). The wireless connection uses manually
assigned IP addresses (are they manual at both ends then?). Then you
have a PC on the wireless net connected to other devices by wired
Ethernet. I think I see the issue here. You are using the wireless
PC as a router, no? I am using an old DI-514 router to connect the
wireless PC and the wired PC. I would just use the router (it has a
wireless function) as a bridge, but it seems it does not have this
capability.

So as long as I only want to connect a single wired PC to the wireless
PC I guess I could do what you are doing. But what if I have a second
PC (third actually) to add to the wired net (or some other device such
as a printer or game)? How would I put two devices on the wired net
off of the wireless PC? Can I use a router or is there a way to do it
without the router? I also have an old switch box sitting around if
that would work better than a router.

[Bob Campbell]

"nemo" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>Or if you had two rooms with computers (home office and family room).
>Perhaps you bought a POS machine running Vista and can't connect your
>printer directly to it, so you have to use a old Pentium MMX machine
>connected via Ethernet to act as a printer server. Actually Vista is
>not the real issue, the lack of a parallel port on the laptop prevents
>a direct hookup.

Again, if the wired and wireless networks were the same network, this
wouldn't be a problem. Any computer could talk to any device on the
network. I have an HP LaserJet 4 printer connected to the hub (its an
ethernet printer). I can print to it from any computer in the house, wired
or wireless.

You keep inventing convoluted solutions to get around your real problem.

>I don't know the Farkles. Are they the family that moved into the
>station wagon parked at the trailer park down the road?

No, you are thinking of Chris Farley, who Lives In A Van Down By The River.

[nemo]

On Oct 11, 9:40 am, "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote:
> "nemo" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:69d40541-2724-4afe-b52d-3e7fba4d7557@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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> >Or if you had two rooms with computers (home office and family room).
> >Perhaps you bought a POS machine running Vista and can't connect your
> >printer directly to it, so you have to use a old Pentium MMX machine
> >connected via Ethernet to act as a printer server. Actually Vista is
> >not the real issue, the lack of a parallel port on the laptop prevents
> >a direct hookup.
>
> Again, if the wired and wireless networks were the same network, this
> wouldn't be a problem. Any computer could talk to any device on the
> network. I have an HP LaserJet 4 printer connected to the hub (its an
> ethernet printer). I can print to it from any computer in the house, wired
> or wireless.
>
> You keep inventing convoluted solutions to get around your real problem.

I don't know why you keep posting. You are not helping and you seem
to have a problem with the fact that I am asking for advice. I don't
want to run a 70 foot cable through the house just to make you feel
better. Is that clear?

I want to connect a wired Ethernet between a laptop that connects to a
wireless network and one or possibly two PCs that are right next to
the laptop. I have in my possession a fairly old router, an even
older switch and a few short cables. I don't want to buy new
hardware. I don't want to rewire my house. I just want to learn how
to make the software work the way it is supposed to work.

I don't mean to be offensive, Bob, but if you don't have anything to
contribute, then why don't you just not butt in?

[NotEvenMe]

"nemo" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 9, 8:53 pm, "Ferd Burfel" <f...@burfel.net> wrote:
> It's just the way I'd set my network up if I was boot legging off my
> neighbor's wireless. :~)

Or if you had two rooms with computers (home office and family room).
Perhaps you bought a POS machine running Vista and can't connect your
printer directly to it, so you have to use a old Pentium MMX machine
connected via Ethernet to act as a printer server. Actually Vista is
not the real issue, the lack of a parallel port on the laptop prevents
a direct hookup.

I don't know the Farkles. Are they the family that moved into the
station wagon parked at the trailer park down the road?
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Hmmm, I have a USB to printer cable that I use for my HP 4100DTN at work.
It is USB on the computer end, old style huge printer plug on the other.
Direct hookup and no network required.
This 4100 is ethernet capable, but unless I put a hub/switch in my office, I
don't have cabling for it.
I have a minimum of 2 ethernet ports in every office, but with my computer &
VOIP phone daisy chained and the other port used for my modem's connection
to the analog adapter in the server room, I'm out of ports.
The 4100 is nearing 1M pages printed and still going strong; amazing!

[NotEvenMe]

Maybe I missed something here...
Where is the internet connection?
In a different room than the laptop?
If you are connecting the laptop to the wireless in another room and want to
share that connection for the other 2 PCs in the same room as the laptop, it
sounds like Internet Connection Sharing needs to be configured.
The laptop would connect to the old router through the ethernet port and the
other 2 PCs would connect to the router.
The 2 PCs would have to use ICS to connect, which would limit the speed of
all, but might be managable.

"nemo" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 11, 9:40 am, "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote:
> "nemo" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:69d40541-2724-4afe-b52d-3e7fba4d7557@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Or if you had two rooms with computers (home office and family room).
> >Perhaps you bought a POS machine running Vista and can't connect your
> >printer directly to it, so you have to use a old Pentium MMX machine
> >connected via Ethernet to act as a printer server. Actually Vista is
> >not the real issue, the lack of a parallel port on the laptop prevents
> >a direct hookup.
>
> Again, if the wired and wireless networks were the same network, this
> wouldn't be a problem. Any computer could talk to any device on the
> network. I have an HP LaserJet 4 printer connected to the hub (its an
> ethernet printer). I can print to it from any computer in the house, wired
> or wireless.
>
> You keep inventing convoluted solutions to get around your real problem.

I don't know why you keep posting. You are not helping and you seem
to have a problem with the fact that I am asking for advice. I don't
want to run a 70 foot cable through the house just to make you feel
better. Is that clear?

I want to connect a wired Ethernet between a laptop that connects to a
wireless network and one or possibly two PCs that are right next to
the laptop. I have in my possession a fairly old router, an even
older switch and a few short cables. I don't want to buy new
hardware. I don't want to rewire my house. I just want to learn how
to make the software work the way it is supposed to work.

I don't mean to be offensive, Bob, but if you don't have anything to
contribute, then why don't you just not butt in?

[Ferd Burfel]

"NotEvenMe" <cargod01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "nemo" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:69d40541-2724-4afe-b52d-3e7fba4d7557@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 9, 8:53 pm, "Ferd Burfel" <f...@burfel.net> wrote:
>> It's just the way I'd set my network up if I was boot legging off my
>> neighbor's wireless. :~)
>
> Or if you had two rooms with computers (home office and family room).
> Perhaps you bought a POS machine running Vista and can't connect your
> printer directly to it, so you have to use a old Pentium MMX machine
> connected via Ethernet to act as a printer server. Actually Vista is
> not the real issue, the lack of a parallel port on the laptop prevents
> a direct hookup.
>
> I don't know the Farkles. Are they the family that moved into the
> station wagon parked at the trailer park down the road?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hmmm, I have a USB to printer cable that I use for my HP 4100DTN at work.
> It is USB on the computer end, old style huge printer plug on the other.
> Direct hookup and no network required.
> This 4100 is ethernet capable, but unless I put a hub/switch in my office,
> I don't have cabling for it.
> I have a minimum of 2 ethernet ports in every office, but with my computer
> & VOIP phone daisy chained and the other port used for my modem's
> connection to the analog adapter in the server room, I'm out of ports.
> The 4100 is nearing 1M pages printed and still going strong; amazing!

I was going to suggest that as well:

http://www.iogear.com/product/GUC1284B/

or similar. I've seen the Belkin version at WalMart.

There are USB-to-Serial adapters as well, usefull for connecting to the
console ports of switches, amongst other things.

Ferd