Lack of FAX Support for Vista Home Premium

Fine Peter. But, there's only the need to refer to the post one is
responding to. Such as what you just did, and what I have now done.
There's no need to quote any further prior messages. As I said, I can
understand newcomers to a forum doing this, but not those who administer
these forums. Peter;691845 Wrote:
> To include the messages in replies is standard procedure for these NG's.
> If
> one has just "tuned in" that helps to inform us what has gone
> on before.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2/Vista Ultimate SP1
> Triple Boot


--
Badcam

FYI, no one administers these forums. And Peter is correct: it is customary
to quote more than just a single post in some threads that are longstanding
or entail long discussions since most of us must clear our caches frequently
enough that we will not have the entire thread at our disposal to review.
But thanks for trying to be so helpful. No matter what you do, someone will
snipe. I expect someone to call you out soon for not bottom posting.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Badcam" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:8607432713511f4e7efb2b096304c70e@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Fine Peter. But, there's only the need to refer to the post one is
> responding to. Such as what you just did, and what I have now done.
> There's no need to quote any further prior messages. As I said, I can
> understand newcomers to a forum doing this, but not those who administer
> these forums. Peter;691845 Wrote:
>> To include the messages in replies is standard procedure for these NG's.
>> If
>> one has just &quot;tuned in&quot; that helps to inform us what has gone
>> on before.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> Toronto, Canada
>> XP Pro SP2 x 2/Vista Ultimate SP1
>> Triple Boot
>
>
> --
> Badcam

We use Aloaha FAX Suite (www.aloaha.com) and are pretty happy with that!

"pete" <pete@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3D85EE91-9F59-4D5C-B150-754EF5AE1AB7@microsoft.com...
>I feel riped off! A FREE download is something I expect from Microsoft!
>
> "jacuze" wrote:
>
>> I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with
>> the
>> ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard
>> feature
>> in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I
>> don't
>> need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
>> couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
>> Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new
>> computer
>> with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however,
>> I
>> discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To
>> make
>> it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as
>> a
>> free stand alone download.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version to
be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is something
constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
> >existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
> >whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
> >"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually be
> >removed...
> >
> > Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> > backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
> >
> > Greenwing
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
> >>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
> >
>
>
>

Here's something constructive for you - get lost! Russ has forgotten
more than you know. I am glad you never provided tech support for me.


Jerry Henderson wrote:
> Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version to
> be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
> something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
> years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is something
> constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
>>> existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
>>> whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
>>> "enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually be
>>> removed...
>>>
>>> Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
>>> backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
>>>
>>> Greenwing
>>>
>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
>>>> documentation was all there before you chose your version.
>>
>>

Oh no!
Not the MAC threat again!
(screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam!)

--
Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


"Jerry Henderson" <JerryHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:7BFF8A55-FD7C-40C2-A661-EC4B98330BC5@microsoft.com...
> Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version
> to
> be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
> something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
> years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is
> something
> constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
>> >existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
>> >whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
>> >"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually
>> >be
>> >removed...
>> >
>> > Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
>> > backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
>> >
>> > Greenwing
>> >
>> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
>> >>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
>> >
>>
>>
>>

You are rich! You must like Russ a lot because that was verrrry constructive.
Oh, wait a minute, you didn't add anything of value. Sorry LOSER!!!!
"bjr" wrote:

> Here's something constructive for you - get lost! Russ has forgotten
> more than you know. I am glad you never provided tech support for me.
>
>
> Jerry Henderson wrote:
> > Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version to
> > be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
> > something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
> > years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is something
> > constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
> >>> existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
> >>> whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
> >>> "enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually be
> >>> removed...
> >>>
> >>> Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> >>> backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
> >>>
> >>> Greenwing
> >>>
> >>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
> >>>> documentation was all there before you chose your version.
> >>
> >>
>

Yes, the MAC threat again. I would hate to search for you pathetic aid for
this problem. Taking away the use of a fax? Come on get real and while you
are at it get a life. IF MAC IS SO BAD, WHY DOES VIST LOOK SO MUCH LIKE THE
MAC INTERFACE?

"Dave" wrote:

> Oh no!
> Not the MAC threat again!
> (screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam!)
>
> --
> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
>
> "Jerry Henderson" <JerryHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:7BFF8A55-FD7C-40C2-A661-EC4B98330BC5@microsoft.com...
> > Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version
> > to
> > be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
> > something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
> > years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is
> > something
> > constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
> >> >existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
> >> >whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
> >> >"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually
> >> >be
> >> >removed...
> >> >
> >> > Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> >> > backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
> >> >
> >> > Greenwing
> >> >
> >> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
> >> >>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Another idiot for my kill file!

Oh, bjr. I am so devasted by this assessment of my worth.

"bjr" wrote:

> Another idiot for my kill file!
>

By the way, have you seen what MAC OS and their software look like? MS has.
MS now looks MAC. (sigh...)

"Dave" wrote:

> Oh no!
> Not the MAC threat again!
> (screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam!)
>
> --
> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
>
> "Jerry Henderson" <JerryHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:7BFF8A55-FD7C-40C2-A661-EC4B98330BC5@microsoft.com...
> > Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version
> > to
> > be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
> > something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
> > years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is
> > something
> > constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
> >> >existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
> >> >whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
> >> >"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually
> >> >be
> >> >removed...
> >> >
> >> > Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> >> > backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
> >> >
> >> > Greenwing
> >> >
> >> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
> >> >>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Did you see johnm's advice a few entries below yours? I tried the Snappy Fax
software at www.snappyfax.com and it worked great! It takes a just a little
time to set it up at the beginning and it costs $29.99 but both the time and
money is worth it. Best yet, even though you have to pay for something that
should be free, MS does not get a penny.
I hope you enjoy it.

"jacuze" wrote:

> I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with the
> ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard feature
> in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I don't
> need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
> couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
> Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new computer
> with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however, I
> discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To make
> it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as a
> free stand alone download.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

Since you did not have anything constructive for jacuze, johnm did. I tried
the Snappy Fax software at www.snappyfax.com that johnm suggested and it
worked great! It takes a just a little time to set it up at the beginning and
it costs $29.99 but both the time and money is worth it. Best yet, even
though you have to pay for something that should be free, MS does not get a
penny.

See it only takes a minute to be helpful.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> The features included with each version are not a secret. Users need to read
> that information very carefully before they decide on which version to
> choose. Caveat emptor.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:eJ0SbtdWHHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:es6pZRUWHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if you
> >> have anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >
> >
> > as haven't you..... smartass
> >
> > to the OP, try http://www.snappysoftware.com/
> > look for Snappy Fax, works with Vista
> >
> > funny though, why MS decided to remove a feature from what they KNEW would
> > be their top seller.
> > just one more example of how "upgrading" to Vista actually results in a
> > "downgrade"
> >
>
>
>

Since you did not have anything constructive for jacuze, johnm did. I tried
the Snappy Fax software at www.snappyfax.com that johnm suggested and it
worked great! It takes a just a little time to set it up at the beginning and
it costs $29.99 but both the time and money is worth it. Best yet, even
though you have to pay for something that should be free, MS does not get a
penny.

See it only takes a minute to be helpful.

Have you looked at Mac OS X 10.4.11 yet? It does look like Vista which MS
sold afterward, doesn't it?

"Dave" wrote:

> Oh no!
> Not the MAC threat again!
> (screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam!)
>
> --
> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
>
> "Jerry Henderson" <JerryHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:7BFF8A55-FD7C-40C2-A661-EC4B98330BC5@microsoft.com...
> > Russ, people are looking for answers. Everyone expects the newest version
> > to
> > be better. You know that. So...get off the Internet if you do not have
> > something constructive. I am a computer tech who has used MS for over 20
> > years. I also have a MAC with OS X 10.4.11. It works great! Here is
> > something
> > constructive, do not buy PCs anymore...buy MAC. ARE YOOU LISTENING MS???
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
> >> >existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
> >> >whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
> >> >"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually
> >> >be
> >> >removed...
> >> >
> >> > Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> >> > backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
> >> >
> >> > Greenwing
> >> >
> >> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
> >> >>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Since you did not have anything constructive for jacuze, johnm did. I tried
the Snappy Fax software at www.snappyfax.com that johnm suggested and it
worked great! It takes a just a little time to set it up at the beginning and
it costs $29.99 but both the time and money is worth it. Best yet, even
though you have to pay for something that should be free, MS does not get a
penny.

See it only takes a minute to be helpful.

Smile, it takes less muscles and makes you AND others feel better. I am
sorry about my comment earlier to you but I have seen the devastion that is
caused by NOT helping.


"bjr" wrote:

> Another idiot for my kill file!
>