Re: ReadyBoost drive format
No. Connected directly to mobo usb connection.
"Rich Milburn [MVP]" <richdotmilburn@applebeesdot.com> wrote in message news:en9c7p0FHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Are you using an extension cable by any chance? I have seen some USB devices have issues with extension cables...
"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message news:%23BpcLD0FHHA.2296@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
I have a similar inconsistency though mine is that about once a week a popup
appears saying readyboost would work faster if it were on a USB2 port. When
it shows the ports it shows it on a USB2 port, which all my ports are. Just
another one of the annoying popups that are meaningless.
"Bill Walter" <bwalter@resourceopt.com> wrote in message
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>I am running VISTA 32 RTM on a P4 3.4GHz system with 2G ram. I have a
>Apacer 4G USB memory stick that claims to be 150X and it often claims to
>not be fast enough to be used as ReadyBoost. When it does say it is fast
>enough it defaults to about 3.8G of readyboost which seems strange since it
>results in about 6G on a 32 bit system! The other strange thing is that it
>is very inconsistent in thinking it is fast enough. Actually I have a dozen
>or so USB memory stick and they all are recognized as fast enough fro
>ReadyBoost from time to time but none of them are consistent. My Laptop has
>USB 4 ports so maybe I have a marginal USB controller.
>
> Bill Walter
>
> "xWakawaka" <xWakawaka@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A033E3D3-8192-4F11-AD12-503314FC726E@microsoft.com...
>> Interesting tidbits. The original questions still stands, however. Has
>> anyone
>> found information on the best file format of the USB drive for use with
>> ReadyBoost?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> "Sam Steinhauser" wrote:
>>
>>> You are exactly right. I finaly got to SanDisk's web site and found the
>>> removal tool. I was having some strange lockups until I got rid of U3.
>>> It may
>>> be useful to someone but all I want my flash drive for is Ready Boost. I
>>> am
>>> running smoothly now and I don't quite understand why but I have 2 gigs
>>> of
>>> RAM and this 2 gig flash drive still gave me a performance increase with
>>> Ready Boost.
>>> --
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>>>
>>> > U3 is, in my opinion, a noxious "utility" that you are best rid of as
>>> > soon
>>> > as possible. You can't format the drive to get rid of it since it's
>>> > hidden
>>> > on the drive and will simply re-create itself the next time you insert
>>> > it.
>>> > You need a special utility to remove it from your flash drive and
>>> > you'll
>>> > need to run it under Windows XP. This is what you need:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1415
>>> >
>>> > I would not recommend trying it under compatibility mode - I'd go
>>> > straight
>>> > to a Windows XP box and run it.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>>> > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>>> > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
>>> > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>>> > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Sam Steinhauser" <SamSteinhauser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> > message news:4659FECE-2F2D-4C37-AB19-B0B2FFABE876@microsoft.com...
>>> > > What is the best format for a ReadyBoost USB drive? I got a SanDisk
>>> > > 2 Gb,
>>> > > plugged it in and after a few prompts Vista had ReadyBoost runing. I
>>> > > noticed
>>> > > I had 2 more drives in My Computer. I had the USB removable storage
>>> > > drive
>>> > > and
>>> > > another drive listed as CD Drive (H:) U3 system. I decide this must
>>> > > be
>>> > > something SanDisk sent on the flash drive and it only shows 1.91 Gb
>>> > > so
>>> > > I'll
>>> > > format it. Vista wouldn't allow a format as the drive was in use and
>>> > > I
>>> > > wasn't
>>> > > Vista savvy enough to turn it off at this time. I booted into XP and
>>> > > went
>>> > > to
>>> > > format the drive and only had FAT or FAT32 options. I format it in
>>> > > FAT32
>>> > > and
>>> > > rebooted into Vista, pluged the drive in and ReadyBoost sets it up
>>> > > again
>>> > > with
>>> > > 1.91 Gb. I figure out how to turn off ReadyBoost and format the USB
>>> > > drive
>>> > > in
>>> > > NTFS. I restart the system, plug the drive back in and Vista says
>>> > > this
>>> > > drive
>>> > > isn't fast enough for ReadyBoost. I click retest and it comes back,
>>> > > sets
>>> > > up
>>> > > ReadyBoost and appears to be running. My system seems much quicker
>>> > > but am
>>> > > I
>>> > > in the right format?
>>> > > This all started from this article I caught;
>>> > > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2017844,00.asp
>>> > > --
>>> > > Sam
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>
Re: ReadyBoost drive format
Optimize for performance vs optimize for removal...
If your device is optimized for performance, then reads and writes are
bufferred in memory. This will allow the application performing the
read/write to return faster, but if you unplug your device before the
buffers are flushed by the OS you WILL lose data. Using Safely Remove
Hardware will ensure buffers are flushed.
Absolutely nothing to do with running at USB 1.1 speed, trust me.
Dave
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Did you go into device manager, to where the USB thumb drive is located,
> and optimize the drive for performance? If you didn't, the drive will run
> at USB 1.1 speed, I believe.
>
> I DO know that this setting makes a big difference in the performance of
> "any" USB connected drive, either thumb drive or hard drive.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:%23BpcLD0FHHA.2296@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have a similar inconsistency though mine is that about once a week a
>>popup appears saying readyboost would work faster if it were on a USB2
>>port. When it shows the ports it shows it on a USB2 port, which all my
>>ports are. Just another one of the annoying popups that are meaningless.
>>
>>
>> "Bill Walter" <bwalter@resourceopt.com> wrote in message
>> news:DD6C3AA3-A9F9-4DD5-863B-E70DA976DA3B@microsoft.com...
>>>I am running VISTA 32 RTM on a P4 3.4GHz system with 2G ram. I have a
>>>Apacer 4G USB memory stick that claims to be 150X and it often claims to
>>>not be fast enough to be used as ReadyBoost. When it does say it is fast
>>>enough it defaults to about 3.8G of readyboost which seems strange since
>>>it results in about 6G on a 32 bit system! The other strange thing is
>>>that it is very inconsistent in thinking it is fast enough. Actually I
>>>have a dozen or so USB memory stick and they all are recognized as fast
>>>enough fro ReadyBoost from time to time but none of them are consistent.
>>>My Laptop has USB 4 ports so maybe I have a marginal USB controller.
>>>
>>> Bill Walter
>>>
>>> "xWakawaka" <xWakawaka@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:A033E3D3-8192-4F11-AD12-503314FC726E@microsoft.com...
>>>> Interesting tidbits. The original questions still stands, however. Has
>>>> anyone
>>>> found information on the best file format of the USB drive for use with
>>>> ReadyBoost?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> "Sam Steinhauser" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You are exactly right. I finaly got to SanDisk's web site and found
>>>>> the
>>>>> removal tool. I was having some strange lockups until I got rid of U3.
>>>>> It may
>>>>> be useful to someone but all I want my flash drive for is Ready Boost.
>>>>> I am
>>>>> running smoothly now and I don't quite understand why but I have 2
>>>>> gigs of
>>>>> RAM and this 2 gig flash drive still gave me a performance increase
>>>>> with
>>>>> Ready Boost.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > U3 is, in my opinion, a noxious "utility" that you are best rid of
>>>>> > as soon
>>>>> > as possible. You can't format the drive to get rid of it since it's
>>>>> > hidden
>>>>> > on the drive and will simply re-create itself the next time you
>>>>> > insert it.
>>>>> > You need a special utility to remove it from your flash drive and
>>>>> > you'll
>>>>> > need to run it under Windows XP. This is what you need:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1415
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would not recommend trying it under compatibility mode - I'd go
>>>>> > straight
>>>>> > to a Windows XP box and run it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>>>>> > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>>>>> > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
>>>>> > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>>>>> > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Sam Steinhauser" <SamSteinhauser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>> > in
>>>>> > message news:4659FECE-2F2D-4C37-AB19-B0B2FFABE876@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > > What is the best format for a ReadyBoost USB drive? I got a
>>>>> > > SanDisk 2 Gb,
>>>>> > > plugged it in and after a few prompts Vista had ReadyBoost runing.
>>>>> > > I
>>>>> > > noticed
>>>>> > > I had 2 more drives in My Computer. I had the USB removable
>>>>> > > storage drive
>>>>> > > and
>>>>> > > another drive listed as CD Drive (H:) U3 system. I decide this
>>>>> > > must be
>>>>> > > something SanDisk sent on the flash drive and it only shows 1.91
>>>>> > > Gb so
>>>>> > > I'll
>>>>> > > format it. Vista wouldn't allow a format as the drive was in use
>>>>> > > and I
>>>>> > > wasn't
>>>>> > > Vista savvy enough to turn it off at this time. I booted into XP
>>>>> > > and went
>>>>> > > to
>>>>> > > format the drive and only had FAT or FAT32 options. I format it in
>>>>> > > FAT32
>>>>> > > and
>>>>> > > rebooted into Vista, pluged the drive in and ReadyBoost sets it up
>>>>> > > again
>>>>> > > with
>>>>> > > 1.91 Gb. I figure out how to turn off ReadyBoost and format the
>>>>> > > USB drive
>>>>> > > in
>>>>> > > NTFS. I restart the system, plug the drive back in and Vista says
>>>>> > > this
>>>>> > > drive
>>>>> > > isn't fast enough for ReadyBoost. I click retest and it comes
>>>>> > > back, sets
>>>>> > > up
>>>>> > > ReadyBoost and appears to be running. My system seems much quicker
>>>>> > > but am
>>>>> > > I
>>>>> > > in the right format?
>>>>> > > This all started from this article I caught;
>>>>> > > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2017844,00.asp
>>>>> > > --
>>>>> > > Sam
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>
>>
>
Re: ReadyBoost drive format
It's supposed to create the swapfile on the hard drive still just incase you
decide to pull out the readyboost stick so it can drop back.
--
Byron Hinson
ActiveWin Windows Site: http://www.activewin.com
"Jim" <jim@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:23:14 -0500, "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim" <jim@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:vpv7n2l6mg8a3ngcpt0n10a164jbv1eut3@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:55:25 -0500, "Richard Urban"
>>> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Did you go into device manager, to where the USB thumb drive is located,
>>>>and
>>>>optimize the drive for performance? If you didn't, the drive will run at
>>>>USB
>>>>1.1 speed, I believe.
>>>>
>>>>I DO know that this setting makes a big difference in the performance of
>>>>"any" USB connected drive, either thumb drive or hard drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice one, I hadn't seen that option.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there's any way to check if ReadyBoost is actually
>>> achieving anything? I've got a Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 3.2Ghz and 4GB DDR
>>> II RAM. I've installed a 4GB Lexar JumDrive Lightning and enabled it
>>> for ReadyBoost.
>>
>>> But is there anywhere in Vista that says "Yes,
>>> ReadyBoost is running it's giving you an x% boost" ?
>>
>>Not that I'm aware of. With 4GB of RAM, I don't think you
>>are going to see any difference. It seems to me, ReadyBoost
>>really helps those with RAM under 2GB. On the two machines
>>that I have had Vista on, both with 2GB of RAM, I was really
>>unable to tell any difference with ReadyBoost or without.
>>Also, I can't prove it, but on my desktop, it seemed to me that
>>ReadyBoost may have actually slowed things down ever so
>>slightly on a few occasions. I tried two different flash drives.
>>
>>
>>-Michael
>
>
> Thanks Michael. I had my own suspicions abotu ReadyBoost. After all,
> even with a 4GB flash drive, Vista still inists on creating a huge
> swapfile on one of my hard drives!
>
> I think I just bought myself a new memory stick :-)
>
>
>
> Jim
Re: ReadyBoost drive format
U3 was deveopled by Scandisk to provide for running applications via
autop[lay from USB devices. When the device is installed two drives are
created - a ROM CD drive (provide simulation means of "copying"
applications) and an USB drive representing the data portion of the device.
Device must meet the following minimum specs:
2.5 MB/sec throughout for 4 KB random reads
a.. 1.75 MB/sec throughout for 512 KB random writes
However if the read/write specs of the HD are "better" Vista will not use as
ReadyBoost. Performance depends on type of HD activity - non-sequential
read/writes (random) go to ReadyBoost and sequential to the HD.
ReadyBoost "actually" sees file system as FAT32 - data is encrypted to
prevent accidental exposure when device is removed - device can be removed
at any time without affecting Vista - data is a copy?
Readyboost also "monitors" boot proceedure over a period of time and
improves performance. ReadyBoost is one of three "Ready...." functions,
including ReadyDrive - sorry do not remember the third.
"rempuii7" <rempuii7.3c88jc@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sam Steinhauser;2195558 Wrote:
>> What is the best format for a ReadyBoost USB drive? I got a SanDisk 2
>> Gb,
>> plugged it in and after a few prompts Vista had ReadyBoost runing. I
>> noticed
>> I had 2 more drives in My Computer. I had the USB removable storage
>> drive and
>> another drive listed as CD Drive (H:) U3 system. I decide this must be
>> something SanDisk sent on the flash drive and it only shows 1.91 Gb so
>> I'll
>> format it. Vista wouldn't allow a format as the drive was in use and I
>> wasn't
>> Vista savvy enough to turn it off at this time. I booted into XP and
>> went to
>> format the drive and only had FAT or FAT32 options. I format it in
>> FAT32 and
>> rebooted into Vista, pluged the drive in and ReadyBoost sets it up
>> again with
>> 1.91 Gb. I figure out how to turn off ReadyBoost and format the USB
>> drive in
>> NTFS. I restart the system, plug the drive back in and Vista says this
>> drive
>> isn't fast enough for ReadyBoost. I click retest and it comes back,
>> sets up
>> ReadyBoost and appears to be running. My system seems much quicker but
>> am I
>> in the right format?
>> This all started from this article I caught;
>> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2017844,00.asp
>> --
>> Sam
>
> The default it accept seems to FAT32,thought with a little you can make
> it accept NTFS or FAT16,
> anyway see my post 'USB Flash Drive' In a fast flash drive drive access
> is the fastest in FAT16-FAT32 and lowest in NTFS.
>
>
> --
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