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I have dial-up and it would take me something like 40-45 hours to do 248+ mb's.
I can go to the library and download this, but i could not find it at
microsoft download center. when i searched i could only find the small older
net framework 3.5 less than 4 mb's, Can someone give me a place to get this?
Pitman5 wrote:
> I have dial-up and it would take me something like 40-45 hours to do 248+ mb's.
Have you tried starting the download? Depending on what components are already
present, it might need to download far less than this.
> I can go to the library and download this, but i could not find it at
> microsoft download center. when i searched i could only find the small older
> net framework 3.5 less than 4 mb's, Can someone give me a place to get this?
Try the Microsoft Update Catalog instead - start by going to the Microsoft
Update web site. I don't know whether this update is in the catalog yet, but
theoretically it should be.
Harry.
"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
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> Pitman5 wrote:
>
>> I have dial-up and it would take me something like 40-45 hours to do 248+
>> mb's.
>
> Have you tried starting the download? Depending on what components are
> already present, it might need to download far less than this.
>
>> I can go to the library and download this, but i could not find it at
>> microsoft download center. when i searched i could only find the small older
>> net framework 3.5 less than 4 mb's, Can someone give me a place to get this?
>
> Try the Microsoft Update Catalog instead - start by going to the Microsoft
> Update web site. I don't know whether this update is in the catalog yet, but
> theoretically it should be.
Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the list there.
Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a difference.
Thanks for the info i will try the microsoft catalog site!
(I wonder why it does not show up on the download center site?)
and sorry to ask a question that was allready answered, but i did not see it
when i searched the discussion site.
Thanks again all your help is greatly appreciated!!
"Michael Jennings" wrote:
> "Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
> news:%23JuiuBsgJHA.5572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Pitman5 wrote:
> >
> >> I have dial-up and it would take me something like 40-45 hours to do 248+
> >> mb's.
> >
> > Have you tried starting the download? Depending on what components are
> > already present, it might need to download far less than this.
> >
> >> I can go to the library and download this, but i could not find it at
> >> microsoft download center. when i searched i could only find the small older
> >> net framework 3.5 less than 4 mb's, Can someone give me a place to get this?
> >
> > Try the Microsoft Update Catalog instead - start by going to the Microsoft
> > Update web site. I don't know whether this update is in the catalog yet, but
> > theoretically it should be.
>
> Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
> I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the list there.
> Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a difference.
>
>
>
The 4th is intended for Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista.
The 7th is intended for Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
Datacenter Edition,Windows XP.
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
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Never Forgotten
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Michael Jennings wrote:
> "Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
> news:%23JuiuBsgJHA.5572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Pitman5 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have dial-up and it would take me something like 40-45 hours to do 248+
>>>mb's.
>>
>>Have you tried starting the download? Depending on what components are
>>already present, it might need to download far less than this.
>>
>>
>>>I can go to the library and download this, but i could not find it at
>>>microsoft download center. when i searched i could only find the small older
>>>net framework 3.5 less than 4 mb's, Can someone give me a place to get this?
>>
>>Try the Microsoft Update Catalog instead - start by going to the Microsoft
>>Update web site. I don't know whether this update is in the catalog yet, but
>>theoretically it should be.
>
>
> Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
> I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the list there.
> Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a difference.
>
>
Guess again Mow - the 5th is not the 4th:
Title Products Classification Last Updated Version Size
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (KB951847) x86 Language Pack Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista Updates 1/27/2009 n/a 787.7 MB 825977267
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (KB951847) x64 Language Pack Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition,Windows XP x64 Edition Updates 1/27/2009 n/a 389.3 MB 408207880
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (KB951847) x86 Language Pack Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition,Windows XP Updates 1/27/2009 n/a 737.5 MB 773297760
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x86 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition,Windows XP Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 248.4 MB 260510560
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x86 Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 56.0 MB 58697945
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x64 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition,Windows XP x64 Edition Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 267.9 MB 280864608
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x86 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition,Windows XP Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 248.4 MB 260510560
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x64 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition,Windows XP x64 Edition Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 267.9 MB 280864608
"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:ulP7BywgJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The 4th is intended for Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista.
>
> The 7th is intended for Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
> Datacenter Edition,Windows XP.
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>>
>> Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
>> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
>> I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the list there.
>> Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a difference.
Why should I guess when it shows this from my location ?
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...spx?q=KB951847
Updates: 1 - 8 of 8 (page 1 of 1) Previous | Next
Title Products Classification Last Updated Version Size
1) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (KB951847) x86 Language
Pack Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista Updates 1/27/2009 n/a 787.7
MB 825977267
2) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (KB951847) x64 Language
Pack Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter
Edition,Windows XP x64 Edition Updates 1/27/2009 n/a 389.3 MB
408207880
3) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (KB951847) x86 Language
Pack Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003, Datacenter
Edition,Windows XP Updates 1/27/2009 n/a 737.5 MB 773297760
*4*) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5
Family Update (KB951847) x86 Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista Service
Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 56.0 MB 58697945
5) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5
Family Update (KB951847) x64 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
Datacenter Edition,Windows XP x64 Edition Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a
267.9 MB 280864608
6) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5
Family Update (KB951847) x86 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
Datacenter Edition,Windows XP Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 248.4 MB
260510560
*7*) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5
Family Update (KB951847) x86 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
Datacenter Edition,Windows XP Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a 248.4 MB
260510560
8) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5
Family Update (KB951847) x64 Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
Datacenter Edition,Windows XP x64 Edition Service Packs 1/27/2009 n/a
267.9 MB 280864608
6 and 7 are identical when viewed from my location.
4 and 7 are identical when viewed from your location.
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============
Michael Jennings wrote:
> Guess again Mow - the 5th is not the 4th:
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com
> <mailto:mowgreen@nowandzen.com>> wrote in message
> news:ulP7BywgJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > The 4th is intended for Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista.
> >
> > The 7th is intended for Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
> > Datacenter Edition,Windows XP.
> >
> >
> > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
> > ===============
> > *-343-* FDNY
> > Never Forgotten
> > ===============
> >
> >
> > Michael Jennings wrote:
> >>
> >> Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
> >> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
> >> I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the
> list there.
> >> Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a
> difference.
You are almost completely correct.
If you search KB951847 the results you got are obtained.
If you search 951847 the results I got are obtained.
Thanks Mow, and please forgive me for doubting you.
"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
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> Why should I guess when it shows this from my location ?
> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...spx?q=KB951847
>
> 6 and 7 are identical when viewed from my location.
> 4 and 7 are identical when viewed from your location.
>
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> Guess again Mow - the 5th is not the 4th:
>> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com <mailto:mowgreen@nowandzen.com>>
>> wrote in message news:ulP7BywgJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > The 4th is intended for Windows Server 2008,Windows Vista.
>> >
>> > The 7th is intended for Windows Server 2003,Windows Server 2003,
>> > Datacenter Edition,Windows XP.
>> >
>> > Michael Jennings wrote:
>> >> Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
>> >> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
>> >> I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the list
>> there.
>> >> Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a
>> difference.
"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You are almost completely correct.
>
> If you search KB951847 the results you got are obtained.
> If you search 951847 the results I got are obtained.
>
> Thanks Mow, and please forgive me for doubting you.
Hi Michael
Then you are lucky -
As a rule, I get all Black Tuesday updates via MS Download Centre-then save
to disc.
Searching All Downloads for KB951847 & 951847 - No Result
Searching Security & Updates for KB951847 & 951847 - No Results
Mow gave a link to an Active X install - does this mean the AX needs to be
installed before you can get this update?
Looking at the problems being generated, I am not too sure I want this one
or need it. At the moment I have .Net 2 on XP Home SP3.
Rgds
Antioch
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:05:06 -0000, "antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote:
>
>"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:OiB23v7gJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> You are almost completely correct.
>>
>> If you search KB951847 the results you got are obtained.
>> If you search 951847 the results I got are obtained.
>>
>> Thanks Mow, and please forgive me for doubting you.
>
>
>Hi Michael
>Then you are lucky -
>As a rule, I get all Black Tuesday updates via MS Download Centre-then save
>to disc.
>
>Searching All Downloads for KB951847 & 951847 - No Result
>Searching Security & Updates for KB951847 & 951847 - No Results
>
>Mow gave a link to an Active X install - does this mean the AX needs to be
>installed before you can get this update?
>Looking at the problems being generated, I am not too sure I want this one
>or need it. At the moment I have .Net 2 on XP Home SP3.
>
>Rgds
>Antioch
You don't want it. It's Microsoft at it's worst, trying to force a NET
3.5 install on us.
It even reaches into Firefox and installs some crap !
"antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OiB23v7gJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> You are almost completely correct.
>>
>> If you search KB951847 the results you got are obtained.
>> If you search 951847 the results I got are obtained.
>>
>> Thanks Mow, and please forgive me for doubting you.
>
> Hi Michael
> Then you are lucky -
> As a rule, I get all Black Tuesday updates via MS Download Centre-then save to
> disc.
>
> Searching All Downloads for KB951847 & 951847 - No Result
> Searching Security & Updates for KB951847 & 951847 - No Results
>
> Mow gave a link to an Active X install - does this mean the AX needs to be
> installed before you can get this update?
> Looking at the problems being generated, I am not too sure I want this one or
> need it. At the moment I have .Net 2 on XP Home SP3.
Well, Antioch, it depends on your evaluation of the out-of-cycle update.
What WaIIy says has some merit. My thinking was that, even though it isn't
supposed to have anything to do with security, it might patch some flaws.
What are the chances of Microsoft being sneaky and dishonest? So I just
let WU do its thing, then found and uninstalled the FireFox latch-on.
Yes, you would have to install the catalog's Active-X to get it that way.
Automatic Updates ought to shove nothing past 2 at you, but it doesn't
look like that's the case. You don't need 3.0 and 3.5, but you might get
them. You may wish to find out whether that's how it is, or may not.
If all of the programs you run don't depend on .NET, you could uninstall
it via Add/Remove - just get rid of 1, 1.1 and 2.0 and see what happens.
Michael Jennings wrote:
> Freudi posted the link here yesterday, Harry:
> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/....aspx?q=951847
> I can't make out any difference between the 4th and 7th items on the list there.
> Possibly they listed the same thing twice, but maybe there is a difference.
Based on the packages in WSUS, I'd say that one of these installers updates .NET
products that are already present, while the other one performs a full install
of .NET 3.5 service pack 1 (including .NET 2 and .NET 3) regardless of what is
already present. However, I have no idea how to tell which is which. (I don't
think the .NET team thought this through very well.)
Harry.
Harry Johnston [MVP] wrote:
> Based on the packages in WSUS, I'd say that one of these installers
> updates .NET products that are already present, while the other one
> performs a full install of .NET 3.5 service pack 1 (including .NET 2 and
> .NET 3) regardless of what is already present. However, I have no idea
> how to tell which is which. (I don't think the .NET team thought this
> through very well.)
Actually on second thoughts the packages in WSUS probably don't have this
behaviour. It would still be my best guess for the packages in the catalog, though.
Harry.
"WaIIy" <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:05:06 -0000, "antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:OiB23v7gJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> You are almost completely correct.
>>>
>>> If you search KB951847 the results you got are obtained.
>>> If you search 951847 the results I got are obtained.
>>>
>>> Thanks Mow, and please forgive me for doubting you.
>>
>>
>>Hi Michael
>>Then you are lucky -
>>As a rule, I get all Black Tuesday updates via MS Download Centre-then
>>save
>>to disc.
>>
>>Searching All Downloads for KB951847 & 951847 - No Result
>>Searching Security & Updates for KB951847 & 951847 - No Results
>>
>>Mow gave a link to an Active X install - does this mean the AX needs to be
>>installed before you can get this update?
>>Looking at the problems being generated, I am not too sure I want this one
>>or need it. At the moment I have .Net 2 on XP Home SP3.
>>
>>Rgds
>>Antioch
>
> You don't want it. It's Microsoft at it's worst, trying to force a NET
> 3.5 install on us.
>
> It even reaches into Firefox and installs some crap !
Well I suppose that is one way of looking at all Black Tuesday stuff - I
view all with great suspicion. To Think that 5-6 years ago I used to let
all updates DL and install on auto - until I got fried one month - never
again
Rgds
Antioch
"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote in message
> news:eLgD5$%23gJHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OiB23v7gJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> You are almost completely correct.
>>>
>>> If you search KB951847 the results you got are obtained.
>>> If you search 951847 the results I got are obtained.
>>>
>>> Thanks Mow, and please forgive me for doubting you.
>>
>> Hi Michael
>> Then you are lucky -
>> As a rule, I get all Black Tuesday updates via MS Download Centre-then
>> save to disc.
>>
>> Searching All Downloads for KB951847 & 951847 - No Result
>> Searching Security & Updates for KB951847 & 951847 - No Results
>>
>> Mow gave a link to an Active X install - does this mean the AX needs to
>> be installed before you can get this update?
>> Looking at the problems being generated, I am not too sure I want this
>> one or need it. At the moment I have .Net 2 on XP Home SP3.
>
> Well, Antioch, it depends on your evaluation of the out-of-cycle update.
> What WaIIy says has some merit. My thinking was that, even though it isn't
> supposed to have anything to do with security, it might patch some flaws.
> What are the chances of Microsoft being sneaky and dishonest? So I just
> let WU do its thing, then found and uninstalled the FireFox latch-on.
>
> Yes, you would have to install the catalog's Active-X to get it that way.
>
> Automatic Updates ought to shove nothing past 2 at you, but it doesn't
> look like that's the case. You don't need 3.0 and 3.5, but you might get
> them. You may wish to find out whether that's how it is, or may not.
>
> If all of the programs you run don't depend on .NET, you could uninstall
> it via Add/Remove - just get rid of 1, 1.1 and 2.0 and see what happens.
>
Hello Michael
Many thanks for your input - I will hang back and hide this one in the
Hidden Folder in MS Home updates.
In any case I still cannot find this update via my normal method and do not
really wish to install it by any other.
If there is something in my computer that will not work or tells me I need
it, then I will reconsider.
The chances of MS being sneaky??? - well we all have our perceptions
regarding that. WGA et al was an eye-opener for me.
Rgds
Antioch