Need help removing duplicate SPN

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06-01-2010
Gunnertac

Need help removing duplicate SPN

I am getting Event ID 11 errors indicating a duplicate SPN for MSSQL Service.
I used the TechNete script queryspn and it appears that instead of having two
computers with the same SPN I have one user and one computer with the same
registered SPN. The entries I see are:

CN=SQLSA,OU=Virtual,OU=Admins,OU=Accounts,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
Class: user
User Logon: SQLSA
-- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433

CN=MYSERVER,OU=Non-Domain
Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
Class: computer
Computer DNS: MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
-- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
-- HOST/MYSERVER
-- HOST/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL

I have other SQL Servers that look identical to the computer entry that
don't have their MSSQL SPN duplicated in the User SQLSA so I'm guessing I
should delete the entry from the user using ADSIEDIT to clear the error. Is
that correct? I don't see two computers with that SPN.

While I'm here I have another question. We just upgraded a server from SQL
2005 STD to SQL 2008 ENT. Its MSSQL SPN entries are:

CN=MYSERVER2,OU=Non-Domain
Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
Class: computer
Computer DNS: MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
-- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
-- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
-- HOST/MYSERVER2
-- HOST/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL

Is this server not creating a duplicate SPN error because one is appended
with :1443? I have other SQL servers and their entries all are appended with
:1443. They are all SQL 2005 boxes. Should I delete the appended SPN from AD
or should I leave it alone?

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Tim
06-01-2010
Jorge Silva

Re: Need help removing duplicate SPN

Hi
this problem occurs when two or more accounts have the same service
principal name (SPN) registered. This is not allowed and the KDC will
"scream" when this issue is detected. You need to detect where the
duplication exists (use the setspn tool), and remove the duplication that Is
not needed. One thing that you need to understand is why that SPN is need
and by which service/account is required. For instance, for SQL you may need
to set the SPN for a given account that is running under SQL service. If
you're sure that changing that SPN will not break other configurations (that
may be set incorrectly using the wrong SPN), you may delete both SPNs (the
one that is being used for the SQL account and for the Server Account), then
give both accounts (user account and computer account) the right to read and
write the ServicePrincipalName.

This procedure is explained in the following article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811889
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I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MVP Directory Services

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"Gunnertac" <Gunnertac@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10969A48-4445-48BD-81FA-674E9B59D137@microsoft.com...
> I am getting Event ID 11 errors indicating a duplicate SPN for MSSQL
> Service.
> I used the TechNete script queryspn and it appears that instead of having
> two
> computers with the same SPN I have one user and one computer with the same
> registered SPN. The entries I see are:
>
> CN=SQLSA,OU=Virtual,OU=Admins,OU=Accounts,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
> Class: user
> User Logon: SQLSA
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
>
> CN=MYSERVER,OU=Non-Domain
> Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
> Class: computer
> Computer DNS: MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
> -- HOST/MYSERVER
> -- HOST/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>
> I have other SQL Servers that look identical to the computer entry that
> don't have their MSSQL SPN duplicated in the User SQLSA so I'm guessing I
> should delete the entry from the user using ADSIEDIT to clear the error.
> Is
> that correct? I don't see two computers with that SPN.
>
>
> While I'm here I have another question. We just upgraded a server from SQL
> 2005 STD to SQL 2008 ENT. Its MSSQL SPN entries are:
>
> CN=MYSERVER2,OU=Non-Domain
> Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
> Class: computer
> Computer DNS: MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
> -- HOST/MYSERVER2
> -- HOST/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>
> Is this server not creating a duplicate SPN error because one is appended
> with :1443? I have other SQL servers and their entries all are appended
> with
> :1443. They are all SQL 2005 boxes. Should I delete the appended SPN from
> AD
> or should I leave it alone?
>
>
>
> --
> Tim
06-01-2010
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]

Re: Need help removing duplicate SPN

Just a bit of followup. Each sql instance should have its own service
account established for an spn.

Below is a quick how to

Kerberos on a sql server. You will need to setup a service principal name
(SPN) for a unique service account for the specific instance on the sql
server. Grant this account local admin privileges on this server.
Start by creating a service account
Grant this account local admin privileges on the sql server server.
Configure the service principal name (SPN):
setspn -A MSSQLSvc/<FQDN>:1433 <SQL_Service_Account>
Example: setspn -A MSSQLSvc/SQLServer01.MyDomain.com:1433 serviceSQLServer01

To verify open up ADSIEdit and find the service account user object and
inspect the attribute value, servicePrincipalName, it should contain the
value following the -A above.
Open up the services console within Control panel on the sql server and
modify every service associated with this sql instance, with the new user
account on the "Log On As". Once modified restart each of the services.
EX: SQL Server
SQL Server Agent
SQL Server Browser
SQL Server FullText Search
SQL Server Integration Services
SQL Server Reporting Services

Download the resource kit for the sql server and run kerbtray on the local
workstation to monitor and purge Kerberos tickets as you work on this
process. Kerberos is extremely picky, you had best make sure you do
everything as expected or it won't work!
Open up Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) and find the sql server
object, right click on it and select properties. Click on the Delegation
tab and select "Trust this computer for delegation to any service (Kerberos
only)" within the Account Options window.
Within ADUC search for the sql service account and open up its properties,
select the Delegation tab and select "Trust this user for delegation to any
service (Kerberos only). Select the Account tab and deselect "Account is
sensitive and cannot be delegated".

Check out the link below for detailed specifics:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...5(SQL.90).aspx

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MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

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"Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:61585063-08E8-474F-9D0B-6FB96C8382D4@microsoft.com...
> Hi
> this problem occurs when two or more accounts have the same service
> principal name (SPN) registered. This is not allowed and the KDC will
> "scream" when this issue is detected. You need to detect where the
> duplication exists (use the setspn tool), and remove the duplication that
> Is not needed. One thing that you need to understand is why that SPN is
> need and by which service/account is required. For instance, for SQL you
> may need to set the SPN for a given account that is running under SQL
> service. If you're sure that changing that SPN will not break other
> configurations (that may be set incorrectly using the wrong SPN), you may
> delete both SPNs (the one that is being used for the SQL account and for
> the Server Account), then give both accounts (user account and computer
> account) the right to read and write the ServicePrincipalName.
>
> This procedure is explained in the following article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811889
> --
>
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MVP Directory Services
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>
>
>
> "Gunnertac" <Gunnertac@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:10969A48-4445-48BD-81FA-674E9B59D137@microsoft.com...
>> I am getting Event ID 11 errors indicating a duplicate SPN for MSSQL
>> Service.
>> I used the TechNete script queryspn and it appears that instead of having
>> two
>> computers with the same SPN I have one user and one computer with the
>> same
>> registered SPN. The entries I see are:
>>
>> CN=SQLSA,OU=Virtual,OU=Admins,OU=Accounts,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
>> Class: user
>> User Logon: SQLSA
>> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
>>
>> CN=MYSERVER,OU=Non-Domain
>> Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
>> Class: computer
>> Computer DNS: MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
>> -- HOST/MYSERVER
>> -- HOST/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>>
>> I have other SQL Servers that look identical to the computer entry that
>> don't have their MSSQL SPN duplicated in the User SQLSA so I'm guessing I
>> should delete the entry from the user using ADSIEDIT to clear the error.
>> Is
>> that correct? I don't see two computers with that SPN.
>>
>>
>> While I'm here I have another question. We just upgraded a server from
>> SQL
>> 2005 STD to SQL 2008 ENT. Its MSSQL SPN entries are:
>>
>> CN=MYSERVER2,OU=Non-Domain
>> Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
>> Class: computer
>> Computer DNS: MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
>> -- HOST/MYSERVER2
>> -- HOST/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>>
>> Is this server not creating a duplicate SPN error because one is appended
>> with :1443? I have other SQL servers and their entries all are appended
>> with
>> :1443. They are all SQL 2005 boxes. Should I delete the appended SPN from
>> AD
>> or should I leave it alone?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim
>
08-01-2010
Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]

Re: Need help removing duplicate SPN

an SPN should be registered on account only (user or computer)

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"Gunnertac" <Gunnertac@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10969A48-4445-48BD-81FA-674E9B59D137@microsoft.com...
> I am getting Event ID 11 errors indicating a duplicate SPN for MSSQL
> Service.
> I used the TechNete script queryspn and it appears that instead of having
> two
> computers with the same SPN I have one user and one computer with the same
> registered SPN. The entries I see are:
>
> CN=SQLSA,OU=Virtual,OU=Admins,OU=Accounts,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
> Class: user
> User Logon: SQLSA
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
>
> CN=MYSERVER,OU=Non-Domain
> Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
> Class: computer
> Computer DNS: MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
> -- HOST/MYSERVER
> -- HOST/MYSERVER.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>
> I have other SQL Servers that look identical to the computer entry that
> don't have their MSSQL SPN duplicated in the User SQLSA so I'm guessing I
> should delete the entry from the user using ADSIEDIT to clear the error.
> Is
> that correct? I don't see two computers with that SPN.
>
>
> While I'm here I have another question. We just upgraded a server from SQL
> 2005 STD to SQL 2008 ENT. Its MSSQL SPN entries are:
>
> CN=MYSERVER2,OU=Non-Domain
> Controllers,OU=Servers,OU=Computers,OU=Bellevue,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=LOCAL
> Class: computer
> Computer DNS: MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
> -- MSSQLSvc/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL:1433
> -- HOST/MYSERVER2
> -- HOST/MYSERVER2.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL
>
> Is this server not creating a duplicate SPN error because one is appended
> with :1443? I have other SQL servers and their entries all are appended
> with
> :1443. They are all SQL 2005 boxes. Should I delete the appended SPN from
> AD
> or should I leave it alone?
>
>
>
> --
> Tim
>
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