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  1. #1
    Mark Guest

    Domains/subdomains

    I've inherited a small active directory where all domain administration has
    been done at the subdomain level. For example, my domain looks like this:

    companyusa.companyname.com

    All nodes are members of companyusa and all work is done there. But I've
    begun to wonder if the higher domain name (companyname) is something that
    should be accessible to network administrators? Does it make sense that
    when this active directory was set up, no accounts or work was ever done at
    the top level?

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!


  2. #2
    Marcin Guest

    Re: Domains/subdomains

    Mark,
    Are you conveying that your root domain is currently not managed at all? If
    so, that's certainly something you should resolve sooner rather than later.
    What's the membership of Enterprise Admins and Schema Admins group? Which
    domain do domain controllers hosting Schema Master and Domain Naming Master
    roles reside in?

    Marcin

    "Mark" <mark@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:eNpxqMNKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I've inherited a small active directory where all domain administration
    > has been done at the subdomain level. For example, my domain looks like
    > this:
    >
    > companyusa.companyname.com
    >
    > All nodes are members of companyusa and all work is done there. But I've
    > begun to wonder if the higher domain name (companyname) is something that
    > should be accessible to network administrators? Does it make sense that
    > when this active directory was set up, no accounts or work was ever done
    > at the top level?
    >
    > Thoughts?
    >
    > Thanks!




  3. #3
    Mel K Guest

    Re: Domains/subdomains

    Mark:

    My first thought would be that whoever set up AD did so with an empty forest
    root domain. This is not uncommon, and there are reasons for doing that. See
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc268205.aspx for some info on
    this type of setup.

    As long as you have the administrator password for the root domain, you are
    fine. There's no need to logon to that domain or do administration, on a
    daily basis. There will be times when you might need to make some changes at
    that level, at which time you'll need to logon to it.

    --
    Regards,
    Mel K, MCSA: M

    "Mark" <mark@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:eNpxqMNKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I've inherited a small active directory where all domain administration
    > has been done at the subdomain level. For example, my domain looks like
    > this:
    >
    > companyusa.companyname.com
    >
    > All nodes are members of companyusa and all work is done there. But I've
    > begun to wonder if the higher domain name (companyname) is something that
    > should be accessible to network administrators? Does it make sense that
    > when this active directory was set up, no accounts or work was ever done
    > at the top level?
    >
    > Thoughts?
    >
    > Thanks!




  4. #4
    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: Domains/subdomains

    Years ago the recommended strategy was to set up an empty root domain. This
    strategy has now been abandoned. There isn't anything wrong with what you
    have but it is just one more domain to manage.

    --
    Paul Bergson
    MVP - Directory Services
    MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

    http://www.pbbergs.com

    Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    "Mark" <mark@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:eNpxqMNKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I've inherited a small active directory where all domain administration
    > has been done at the subdomain level. For example, my domain looks like
    > this:
    >
    > companyusa.companyname.com
    >
    > All nodes are members of companyusa and all work is done there. But I've
    > begun to wonder if the higher domain name (companyname) is something that
    > should be accessible to network administrators? Does it make sense that
    > when this active directory was set up, no accounts or work was ever done
    > at the top level?
    >
    > Thoughts?
    >
    > Thanks!




  5. #5
    Meinolf Weber Guest

    Re: Domains/subdomains

    Hello mark,

    This is an older design structure. Today this is not longer used/recommended.
    Basically you have one more domain, that's all.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
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    no rights.
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    > I've inherited a small active directory where all domain
    > administration has been done at the subdomain level. For example, my
    > domain looks like this:
    >
    > companyusa.companyname.com
    >
    > All nodes are members of companyusa and all work is done there. But
    > I've begun to wonder if the higher domain name (companyname) is
    > something that should be accessible to network administrators? Does
    > it make sense that when this active directory was set up, no accounts
    > or work was ever done at the top level?
    >
    > Thoughts?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >




  6. #6
    John Policelli [MVP - DS] Guest

    Re: Domains/subdomains

    I agree with the responses that state the old recommendation was to use an
    empty forest root domain. However, I do not agree that this is not longer
    required/recommended. It is still recommended under certain circumstances.
    My main point is that if an empty forest root domain exists in your forest,
    there must be a reason for it. The reason can be as simple as someone was
    following a previous best practice. However, you need to fully understand
    your company’s forest design requirements to determine whether or not the
    forest domain should be an empty domain. Here is a link that will aid you in
    this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc730924.aspx. Also keep in
    mind that requirements change over time.
    At this point, you do not have much choice. The forest root domain cannot be
    changed without scraping your current AD forest design.

    --
    John Policelli

    Blog: http://johnpolicelli.wordpress.com

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no rights!
    Always test before proceeding.


    "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

    > Hello mark,
    >
    > This is an older design structure. Today this is not longer used/recommended.
    > Basically you have one more domain, that's all.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > I've inherited a small active directory where all domain
    > > administration has been done at the subdomain level. For example, my
    > > domain looks like this:
    > >
    > > companyusa.companyname.com
    > >
    > > All nodes are members of companyusa and all work is done there. But
    > > I've begun to wonder if the higher domain name (companyname) is
    > > something that should be accessible to network administrators? Does
    > > it make sense that when this active directory was set up, no accounts
    > > or work was ever done at the top level?
    > >
    > > Thoughts?
    > >
    > > Thanks!
    > >

    >
    >
    >


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