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Old 16-10-2006
ksariash@gmail.com
 
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Same output to two sound cards

Hey guys. So here's the deal:

I've got two audio devices (USB Speakers + Onboard Audio) and I want to
listen to the same sound output on both.

For example: I'm listening to a song in winamp, it should play on both
my headphones plugged into my laptop, and my usb speakers.

I've been looking for HOURS with no solution. ANY HELP APPRECIATED!
thanks.


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Old 16-10-2006
Bob I
 
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

The reason is they aren't designed to do that. You may pick one OR the
other. You may solve this with a Y connector.

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Old 17-10-2006
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If you are suggesting I use a Y-splitter, you've probably misunderstood
my problem.

One connects via USB and the other via headphone input jack on my
laptop... there is no way to connect the two together.

WOOT I just found a solution.

It was a little utility named audiorepeater.exe that can be found in
the zip file of the free trial download of a program named virtual
audio cable. You can delete the other files, as this is the only one
you need.

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Old 06-03-2009
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

This solution kind of works for me. It repeats the audio but at such a low level that even with the volume control on my headset cranked, I cannot hear it very well. It's like whispering in the background.

Has anyone found a better solution?

Basically my setup is that I have a set of speakers plugged into the onboard sound card and a USB Wireless headset w/mic that I use whenever the kids are in the room watching tv or something. But it's nice to be able to just take off the headset and reach over to turn up the speakers once in a while without restarting apps to get them to change audio devices.

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Old 18-06-2009
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

A have a solution, using the Virtual Audio Cable.

Let`s do:

1- Download, Buy and Install Virtual Audio Cable
(this will create a kind of a virtual sound card ou your computer)

2- On your player (like winamp ou someone else), set the output sound device "Virtual Cable 1"

3- Open two instances of AudioRepeater.

4- In both instances, set in Wave In "Virtual Audio Cable1". In Wave Out.

5- In each instances of program, set the outputs device of your USB Headphone and Onboard Audio.

To start automaticly, create a .bat and use a commend line like this one:

start /min "audiorepeater" "%programfiles%\Virtual Audio Cable\audiorepeater.exe" /Input: "Virtual Cable 2" /Output: "ATI HD Audio rear output" /BufferMs:100 /SamplingRate:48000 /Autostart

start /min "audiorepeater" "%programfiles%\Virtual Audio Cable\audiorepeater.exe" /Input: "Virtual Cable 2" /Output: "IDT Audio1" /BufferMs:100 /SamplingRate:48000 /Autostart

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Old 10-08-2009
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

Since you're already using winamp there's a plugin called Multiple Output Plugin. You can set multiple sound cards to use an output. Then use the plugin to enable the outputs. I use it to send music to the internal sound card and external bluetooth sound card

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Old 31-12-2009
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

Unfortunately these do not result in synced audio. I am running 2 stereos on 2 floors. I have spiral stairs connecting the 2. 50% of areas you can hear both zones.

They need to be in perfect sync.

This is not a solution for me.

In fact, y-adapter is basically what I'm doing. My soundcard has optical out and mini-jack out. I use both and they are in sync.

I bought an additional USB soundcard with RCA outs so I can stop using mini-jack, which has inferior quality.

Alas, they don't sync up using this method. Or any other method I've tried. These echos are driving me insane!

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Old 02-01-2010
Chuck
 
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

"They need to be in perfect sync"

Then you will need to use the same audio source and even possibly the same
audio cable lengths.
Even with that, places that are not equidistant from both sound systems may
not be in "perfect sync"
Two identical USB sound cards will not sync the sound, as you have
discovered.

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Old 02-01-2010
Paul
 
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

The time of flight between two sets of speakers, could cause
an echo issue. The listener in the first setup, hears echo coming
from the other room. The 50msec is the time of flight through
air for the sound.

(Listener)

L,R <---- 50msec TOF ----> L,R
Room#1 Room#2
\ /
\ /
\_______ Computer ______/

Adding a delay on the electrical interface on the left hand
sound card, would fix it, so the sound arrived in phase. (Or
closer to being in phase, plus or minus.) The listener doesn't
perceive an echo.

(Listener)

L,R <---- 50msec TOF ----> L,R
Room#1 Room#2
\ /
50ms delay /
\_______ Computer ______/


As soon as the listener walks towards the other room, the compensation
is ruined. The computer would need to know the position of the listener
at all times, to come closer to compensating for listening position.


(Listener - "I hear real bad echo")

L,R <---- 50msec TOF ----> L,R
Room#1 Room#2
\ /
50ms delay /
\_______ Computer ______/

In terms of using a driver, to control multiple PCI sound cards,
something like this might work. But I was unable to find a free
player application with enough flexibility to send the output to
arbitrary cards and jacks. What I wanted to do, was send the left
channel to one sound card, the right channel to the other sound
card, to test the delta latency between the cards. Based on what
I could read, a typical player to drive ASIO, would send all the
output to just one card. The free ASIO implementations use
the Steinberg sample code, and that give away code doesn't handle
pure arbitrary assignment. I won't install this driver, until
I can find a decent free player application to test with.

As for USB, there are some options as to how it delivers sound.
And likely no documentation for individual USB devices, as to
how they happen to do it.

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Old 04-01-2010
Bob I
 
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Re: Same output to two sound cards

Feed both from the SAME card, otherwise they won't be in sync.

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