USB SD Memory Card reader

Hi. I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but has
XP SP3. I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble installing a
Dynex Memory Card Reader. When I plug the USB cable, instead of the
normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short churps, then
nothing. I can go to control panel->add hardware->update hardware.
It'll ask me for the installation CD, start to install, then give an
installation error, 'data invalid'. Now what do I do?

Dennis Allen ha scritto:
>
> Hi. I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but has
> XP SP3. I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble installing a
> Dynex Memory Card Reader. When I plug the USB cable, instead of the
> normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short churps, then
> nothing. I can go to control panel->add hardware->update hardware.
> It'll ask me for the installation CD, start to install, then give an
> installation error, 'data invalid'. Now what do I do?
>

Did you try the card reader on another pc? or another usb port? same error?
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"Dennis Allen" <dennis@dennisallen.com> wrote in message
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> Hi. I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but has
> XP SP3. I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble installing a
> Dynex Memory Card Reader. When I plug the USB cable, instead of the
> normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short churps, then
> nothing. I can go to control panel->add hardware->update hardware.
> It'll ask me for the installation CD, start to install, then give an
> installation error, 'data invalid'. Now what do I do?

Return the defective device for refund (provided it was
sold as running under WinXP.)

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

No, but I tried to plug in a trailcam. A USB device with a SD memory
card, same problem.

After googling, I suspect it's a permission problem, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841567 . Instead of the PCI folder, I
went to the USB folder to give the correct permissions to all the child
folders. Didn't work. Then I deleted the USB reader folder itself.
Now when I plug in the USB SD memory reader, instead of three quick
churps I get the new hardware prompt. Still won't install, however. Is
there another registery folder I need to set permissions? Or do I need
to allow [Everyone] in the USB folder permission? ..Dennis


"Avatar" <avatar.79@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dennis Allen ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi. I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but
>> has XP SP3. I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble
>> installing a Dynex Memory Card Reader. When I plug the USB cable,
>> instead of the normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short
>> churps, then nothing. I can go to control panel->add
>> hardware->update hardware. It'll ask me for the installation CD,
>> start to install, then give an installation error, 'data invalid'.
>> Now what do I do?
>>
>
> Did you try the card reader on another pc? or another usb port? same
> error?
> bye
>
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>
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I just tried to card reader on a new Vista machine. Worked, no problem.
Nothing wrong with the reader or the SD cards. Tried the trailcam, that
worked too.

It's a simple plug-n-play device. So why doesn't it work on my XP
machine? Too old? Too many patches?

"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> "Dennis Allen" <dennis@dennisallen.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23sgIghFKHA.2832@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> Hi. I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but
>> has
>> XP SP3. I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble
>> installing a
>> Dynex Memory Card Reader. When I plug the USB cable, instead of the
>> normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short churps, then
>> nothing. I can go to control panel->add hardware->update hardware.
>> It'll ask me for the installation CD, start to install, then give an
>> installation error, 'data invalid'. Now what do I do?
>
> Return the defective device for refund (provided it was
> sold as running under WinXP.)
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>

On Aug 6, 11:34*pm, "Dennis Allen" <den...@dennisallen.com> wrote:
> I just tried to card reader on a new Vista machine. *Worked, no problem..
> Nothing wrong with the reader or the SD cards. *Tried the trailcam, that
> worked too.
>
> It's a simple plug-n-play device. *So why doesn't it work on my XP
> machine? *Too old? *Too many patches?
>
> "Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:ekHo8toFKHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> > "Dennis Allen" <den...@dennisallen.com> wrote in message
> >news:%23%23sgIghFKHA.2832@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> >> Hi. *I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but
> >> has
> >> XP SP3. *I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble
> >> installing a
> >> Dynex Memory Card Reader. *When I plug the USB cable, instead of the
> >> normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short churps, then
> >> nothing. *I can go to control panel->add hardware->update hardware.
> >> It'll ask me for the installation CD, start to install, then give an
> >> installation error, 'data invalid'. *Now what do I do?
>
> > Return the defective device for refund (provided it was
> > sold as running under WinXP.)
>
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)


Sounds like a USB port problems. Have you ever installed the
motherboard chipset drivers?

Nope, never played with any chipset. Emailed Gateway. Out of warranty,
of course. At this point, I have no desire to spend $60 for 30 minutes.

I followed one tech papers advice. In the device manager I uninstalled
all the USB drivers. Upon reboot, new hardware installed. Now my USB
scanner doesn't work. Same "data is invalid" problem.

I installed this scanner right after I bought the computer, back in
2004. I don't remember if I had to do something special to get it to
work. I did notice something after the boot, under the device manager
USB drivers. Don't remember the exact phrase, but there was a "PCI to
USB compatible" driver.

The USB scanner did work, worked for years. There has to be a way to
get it to work again. I suspect we might have a USB 2.0 problem. Maybe
we need to make this computer just a USB 1.1 machine....Dennis


"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 11:34 pm, "Dennis Allen" <den...@dennisallen.com> wrote:
> I just tried to card reader on a new Vista machine. Worked, no
> problem.
> Nothing wrong with the reader or the SD cards. Tried the trailcam,
> that
> worked too.
>
> It's a simple plug-n-play device. So why doesn't it work on my XP
> machine? Too old? Too many patches?
>
> "Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:ekHo8toFKHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> > "Dennis Allen" <den...@dennisallen.com> wrote in message
> >news:%23%23sgIghFKHA.2832@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> >> Hi. I have a Gateway 2.8Gig P4 computer, about five years old, but
> >> has
> >> XP SP3. I want to read SD memory cards, but having trouble
> >> installing a
> >> Dynex Memory Card Reader. When I plug the USB cable, instead of the
> >> normal USB chirp, then the device, I get a three short churps, then
> >> nothing. I can go to control panel->add hardware->update hardware.
> >> It'll ask me for the installation CD, start to install, then give
> >> an
> >> installation error, 'data invalid'. Now what do I do?
>
> > Return the defective device for refund (provided it was
> > sold as running under WinXP.)
>
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)


Sounds like a USB port problems. Have you ever installed the
motherboard chipset drivers?

Hi. Rebooted the machine and change the BIOS settings, disabling USB
2.0. Same problem.

I fear the problem was going from SP2 to SP3. I must not have the right
drivers available for the scanner and the card reader. The trouble is,
I do have the latest (and only) drivers from both manufacturers. So now
what?

I tried downloading driver detective, so a called free program. It
scanned, told me I need to update a couple usb drivers, but won't do
anything until I register. Again, now what? Buy a program in the hopes
it might work?

On Aug 8, 8:56*pm, "Dennis Allen" <den...@dennisallen.com> wrote:
> Hi. *Rebooted the machine and change the BIOS settings, disabling USB
> 2.0. *Same problem.
>
> I fear the problem was going from SP2 to SP3. *I must not have the right
> drivers available for the scanner and the card reader. *The trouble is,
> I do have the latest (and only) drivers from both manufacturers. *So now
> what?
>
> I tried downloading driver detective, so a called free program. *It
> scanned, told me I need to update a couple usb drivers, but won't do
> anything until I register. *Again, now what? *Buy a program in the hopes
> it might work?

NEVER use the "driver" updaters. These can be full of "spyware" and
mess up your PCs.

What type of chipset does your motherboard use?

> NEVER use the "driver" updaters. These can be full of "spyware" and
> mess up your PCs.

About $29.95 too late. It was the weekend and I was struggling to solve
this problem, but that's no excuse. Driver detective reported outdated
USB drivers and installed newer drivers. That didn't solve the problem,
however, and DD still reported outdated drivers. Now I'm receiving
double the normal amount of spam email. Serves me right.

Monday morning I installed a PCI card with USB ports. The USB card
reader and my old USB scanner still didn't work. Then I removed all the
USB device manager drivers and upon reboot disabled the main board USB
ports. Still didn't work.

As a final act of desperation, I restored a hard drive backup from six
months ago. Of course I first backed up all my recent data, minus drive
detective<g> Took me all day, but I got everything restored and
updated. More importantly, my USB scanner now works.

> What type of chipset does your motherboard use?

Where do I do to find that information?

Dennis Allen wrote:
>
>> NEVER use the "driver" updaters. These can be full of "spyware" and
>> mess up your PCs.
>
> About $29.95 too late. It was the weekend and I was struggling to solve
> this problem, but that's no excuse. Driver detective reported outdated
> USB drivers and installed newer drivers. That didn't solve the problem,
> however, and DD still reported outdated drivers. Now I'm receiving
> double the normal amount of spam email. Serves me right.
>
> Monday morning I installed a PCI card with USB ports. The USB card
> reader and my old USB scanner still didn't work. Then I removed all the
> USB device manager drivers and upon reboot disabled the main board USB
> ports. Still didn't work.
>
> As a final act of desperation, I restored a hard drive backup from six
> months ago. Of course I first backed up all my recent data, minus drive
> detective<g> Took me all day, but I got everything restored and
> updated. More importantly, my USB scanner now works.
>
>> What type of chipset does your motherboard use?
>
> Where do I do to find that information?

You can use CPUZ to get the chipset information relatively quickly.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

*******

Unlike some other hardware, USB and Firewire have standardized
register interfaces. That makes it possible for a driver to be
bundled with the OS, and reduces or eliminates the need for the
hardware companies to be distributing their own stuff. If there
is a hardware bug, sometimes there will be a specific fix needed,
but if you're using a recent Service Pack, chances are you've got
every fix there is to be offered.

Some USB problems can be fixed by deleting the USB entries in Device
Manager, and allowing Windows to rediscover that hardware. That doesn't
solve every problem, but it has helped some people.

Paul

On Aug 11, 8:37*am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> Dennis Allen wrote:
>
> >> NEVER use the "driver" updaters. *These can be full of "spyware" and
> >> mess up your PCs.
>
> > About $29.95 too late. *It was the weekend and I was struggling to solve
> > this problem, but that's no excuse. *Driver detective reported outdated
> > USB drivers and installed newer drivers. *That didn't solve the problem,
> > however, and DD still reported outdated drivers. *Now I'm receiving
> > double the normal amount of spam email. *Serves me right.
>
> > Monday morning I installed a PCI card with USB ports. *The USB card
> > reader and my old USB scanner still didn't work. *Then I removed all the
> > USB device manager drivers and upon reboot disabled the main board USB
> > ports. *Still didn't work.
>
> > As a final act of desperation, I restored a hard drive backup from six
> > months ago. *Of course I first backed up all my recent data, minus drive
> > detective<g> *Took me all day, but I got everything restored and
> > updated. *More importantly, my USB scanner now works.
>
> >> What type of chipset does your motherboard use?
>
> > Where do I do to find that information?
>
> You can use CPUZ to get the chipset information relatively quickly.
>
> http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>
> *******
>
> Unlike some other hardware, USB and Firewire have standardized
> register interfaces. That makes it possible for a driver to be
> bundled with the OS, and reduces or eliminates the need for the
> hardware companies to be distributing their own stuff. If there
> is a hardware bug, sometimes there will be a specific fix needed,
> but if you're using a recent Service Pack, chances are you've got
> every fix there is to be offered.
>
> Some USB problems can be fixed by deleting the USB entries in Device
> Manager, and allowing Windows to rediscover that hardware. That doesn't
> solve every problem, but it has helped some people.
>
> * * Paul

A lot of VIA motherboard chipsets may also require a USB filter
driver. You can usually find this driver and the most recent VIA
chipset drivers @ viaarena.com

According to CPU-Z, the mainboard:

Manaufacturer: Intel Corporation
Model: D865GLC AAC27501-407
Chipset: Intel i865P/PE/G/i848P Rev. A2
Southbridge: Intel 82801EB(ICH5)
LPCIO: NS PC87372

BIOS

Brand: Intel Corp.
Version: BF86510A.15A.0057.P10.0401231902
Date: 01/23/2004

> A lot of VIA motherboard chipsets may also require a USB filter
> driver. You can usually find this driver and the most recent VIA
> chipset drivers @ viaarena.com

I did a complete hard drive restore and got my USB scanner working once
again. I looked at the device manager USB drivers. The list looks the
same, except for "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller". If I
were to delete these USB drivers, the rebuild won't add this driver
back. Is this driver a leftover from another piece of hardware or it
the reason my USB scanner quit working? Do we need something like it to
get the USB card reader to work?

On Aug 11, 8:12*pm, "Dennis Allen" <den...@dennisallen.com> wrote:
> According to CPU-Z, the mainboard:
>
> Manaufacturer: Intel Corporation
> Model: * * * D865GLC * AAC27501-407
> Chipset: * * Intel * * i865P/PE/G/i848P * Rev. A2
> Southbridge: Intel * * 82801EB(ICH5)
> LPCIO: * * * NS * * * *PC87372
>
> BIOS
>
> Brand: * Intel Corp.
> Version: BF86510A.15A.0057.P10.0401231902
> Date: * *01/23/2004

Check here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4 4&submit=Go!

Install the Chipset: INF Update Utility for 848, 865, 875, 910, 915,
925 Chipset-Based Intel Desktop Boards