SATA optical drive not showing in bios...

After slightly rearranging my PC innards, and connecting a DVD drive to a
"black" SATA port, DVD drive does not show up in bios.
( 3 x Red + 2 x Black SATA connectors on this Asus "M3N78" board btw ).

Previous configuration was :-

80gb boot hd on ..........SATA 1 (red)
160gb hd on ................SATA 2 (red)
Sata DVD rewriter on ...SATA 3 (red)
empty ..........................SATA 5 (black)
empty ..........................SATA 6 (black)
IDE DVD rewriter on the single IDE port.
....and all was OK.

I removed the IDE DVD rewriter drive,
....added 3rd hd - 160gb, connected it to SATA 3, (swapped the DVD drive SATA
lead from SATA 3 to SATA 5),
....and the bios cannot see the DVD drive on SATA 5

The only slightly relevant information I can glean from the manual is :-
"If you change the 'Sata Mode Select' item in the bios to [Raid Mode] or
[AHCI Mode], set the 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Disabled] to ensure
that SATA5 and SATA6 work normally."

I understand that in the nightmare world of shared motherboard resources,
that using all 5 SATA ports means IDE port must stay empty.

With current hardware configuration :-
80gb boot hd on ..........SATA 1 (red)
160gb hd on ................SATA 2 (red)
160gb hd on ................SATA 3 (red)
Sata DVD rewriter on....SATA 5 (black)
empty ..........................SATA 6 (black)

....and having tried setting bios 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Enabled]
and [Disabled] ...no luck with either setting !
...i.e. I can remember a board where IDE port had to be switched on, and
nothing connected to it, to make all 4 SATA ports work !

....anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an optical
drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(

....any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.

regards, Richard

"RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekBdwLntJHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> After slightly rearranging my PC innards, and connecting a DVD drive to a
> "black" SATA port, DVD drive does not show up in bios.
> ( 3 x Red + 2 x Black SATA connectors on this Asus "M3N78" board btw ).
>
> Previous configuration was :-
>
> 80gb boot hd on ..........SATA 1 (red)
> 160gb hd on ................SATA 2 (red)
> Sata DVD rewriter on ...SATA 3 (red)
> empty ..........................SATA 5 (black)
> empty ..........................SATA 6 (black)
> IDE DVD rewriter on the single IDE port.
> ...and all was OK.
>
> I removed the IDE DVD rewriter drive,
> ...added 3rd hd - 160gb, connected it to SATA 3, (swapped the DVD drive
> SATA
> lead from SATA 3 to SATA 5),
> ...and the bios cannot see the DVD drive on SATA 5
>
> The only slightly relevant information I can glean from the manual is :-
> "If you change the 'Sata Mode Select' item in the bios to [Raid Mode] or
> [AHCI Mode], set the 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Disabled] to ensure
> that SATA5 and SATA6 work normally."
>
> I understand that in the nightmare world of shared motherboard resources,
> that using all 5 SATA ports means IDE port must stay empty.
>
> With current hardware configuration :-
> 80gb boot hd on ..........SATA 1 (red)
> 160gb hd on ................SATA 2 (red)
> 160gb hd on ................SATA 3 (red)
> Sata DVD rewriter on....SATA 5 (black)
> empty ..........................SATA 6 (black)
>
> ...and having tried setting bios 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Enabled]
> and [Disabled] ...no luck with either setting !
> ..i.e. I can remember a board where IDE port had to be switched on, and
> nothing connected to it, to make all 4 SATA ports work !
>
> ...anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an optical
> drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(
>
> ...any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.
>
> regards, Richard

XP Home SP3+ all updates btw, ...and ASUS EZflashed bios from version
0504.rom to latest 0602.rom but couldn't see any tweaks relating to optical
drive identification etc. ...
....also tried setting bios "Windows aware OS" to Yes and No !!!

regards, Richard

"RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote:

>...anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an optical
>drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(
>
>...any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.

I'm thinking: HOW is this a Windows XP issue?

Mike Torello wrote:
> "RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an
>> optical
>> drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(
>>
>> ...any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.
>
> I'm thinking: HOW is this a Windows XP issue?

Well, keep thinking. He's asking in the hardware newsgroup. I realize
that's an advanced concept.

Be careful Bill... Mike will kilfile you! LOL! Plus he doesn't help many OP's
either. Make it a great day.
--
Computer/Software Tech.


Charles Richmond
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



"Bill in Co." wrote:

> Mike Torello wrote:
> > "RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> ...anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an
> >> optical
> >> drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(
> >>
> >> ...any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.
> >
> > I'm thinking: HOW is this a Windows XP issue?
>
> Well, keep thinking. He's asking in the hardware newsgroup. I realize
> that's an advanced concept.
>
>
>

"RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekBdwLntJHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> After slightly rearranging my PC innards, and connecting a DVD drive to a
> "black" SATA port, DVD drive does not show up in bios.
> ( 3 x Red + 2 x Black SATA connectors on this Asus "M3N78" board btw ).
>
> Previous configuration was :-
>
> 80gb boot hd on ..........SATA 1 (red)
> 160gb hd on ................SATA 2 (red)
> Sata DVD rewriter on ...SATA 3 (red)
> empty ..........................SATA 5 (black)
> empty ..........................SATA 6 (black)
> IDE DVD rewriter on the single IDE port.
> ...and all was OK.
>
> I removed the IDE DVD rewriter drive,
> ...added 3rd hd - 160gb, connected it to SATA 3, (swapped the DVD drive
> SATA
> lead from SATA 3 to SATA 5),
> ...and the bios cannot see the DVD drive on SATA 5
>
> The only slightly relevant information I can glean from the manual is :-
> "If you change the 'Sata Mode Select' item in the bios to [Raid Mode] or
> [AHCI Mode], set the 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Disabled] to ensure
> that SATA5 and SATA6 work normally."
>
> I understand that in the nightmare world of shared motherboard resources,
> that using all 5 SATA ports means IDE port must stay empty.
>
> With current hardware configuration :-
> 80gb boot hd on ..........SATA 1 (red)
> 160gb hd on ................SATA 2 (red)
> 160gb hd on ................SATA 3 (red)
> Sata DVD rewriter on....SATA 5 (black)
> empty ..........................SATA 6 (black)
>
> ...and having tried setting bios 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Enabled]
> and [Disabled] ...no luck with either setting !
> ..i.e. I can remember a board where IDE port had to be switched on, and
> nothing connected to it, to make all 4 SATA ports work !
>
> ...anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an optical
> drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(
>
> ...any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.
>
> regards, Richard


Just curious about your bios settings. Is there a configuration setting for
the devices attached to the 3rd SATA port (SATA 5/6)? That is, a setting
for ide master/slave, SATA...
--
Dave
If you don't like the weather in Central Texas, just give it a minute...

"RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekBdwLntJHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> After slightly rearranging my PC innards, and connecting a DVD drive to a
> "black" SATA port, DVD drive does not show up in bios.
> ( 3 x Red + 2 x Black SATA connectors on this Asus "M3N78" board btw ).
>

Thanks to all who helped, except for the useless question, ("...what's this
got to do with XP Home ed. ..etc.)
....to whom I simply say, I thought there might be a problem with IRQ
conflicts, either when Windows was ordering IRQ's or when the bios was
ordering them. Admittedly a tenuous link to XP but, some brilliant brains
are in this NG, and ufortunately also in here are a suprprisingly large
number of parrots that love to ask, ...."and what has that got to do with XP
?"

....and thanks to Paul for you sugegestion, though I think I may buy a two
port PCI-e SATA card, i.e. I want to keep that eSATA port for an external
eSATA hd !
....also now that Graham W (thankyou), pointed out that "Look in your
motherboard manual. As is common with ASUS MBs with
this chipset, the black SATA ports 5 & 6 are not translated to IDE,
and are reserved for AHCI/RAID only." I had suspected this but couldn't
find any information in the M3N78 motherboard manual to indicate that the
black SATA ports 5 and 6 could not be used for SATA hard disks or SATA
optical drives. I was guessing, or hoping that they could at least be used
for optical drives - seeing as I had a spare SATA dvd rewriter !
Seeing as they cannot, I may buy an IDE DVD/CD ROM drive and connect to the
IDE port, along with my IDE DVD rewriter (master & slave), leaving me with 3
red SATA ports for hard disks,
.....though as I mentioned above, I am tempted to buy a PCI-e SATA card, i.e.
I keep ending up with the wrong mix of IDE and SATA hardware, ....and I'm
NOT going down the "adaptor" route, ...it's cheaper to buy new ROM drives,
and sometimes cheaper to buy new DVD rewriter drives !!

....thanks again to all,

regards, Richard

It's not much of a loss.

THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
> Be careful Bill... Mike will kilfile you! LOL! Plus he doesn't help many
> OP's
> either. Make it a great day.
> --
> Computer/Software Tech.
>
>
> Charles Richmond
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co." wrote:
>
>> Mike Torello wrote:
>>> "RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...anyhow, the system can see all the hd's but, BIOS cannot see an
>>>> optical
>>>> drive connected to that black SATA 5 :-(
>>>>
>>>> ...any thoughts would be MUCHLY appreciated.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking: HOW is this a Windows XP issue?
>>
>> Well, keep thinking. He's asking in the hardware newsgroup. I
>> realize
>> that's an advanced concept.

Mike knows more than you. You are a fake and nothing should be believed what is
posted by you because it is garbage spewed from garbage

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

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Lost your way again... Peter! Make it a great day.
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Charles Richmond
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



"Peter Foldes" wrote:

> Mike knows more than you. You are a fake and nothing should be believed what is
> posted by you because it is garbage spewed from garbage
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "THE C. [MS MVP]" <THEC.@MSN.COM> wrote in message
> news:8AFB62C1--63CC88A3A0AA@microsoft.com...
>
>

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
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> "RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ekBdwLntJHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> After slightly rearranging my PC innards, and connecting a DVD drive to a
>> "black" SATA port, DVD drive does not show up in bios.
>> ( 3 x Red + 2 x Black SATA connectors on this Asus "M3N78" board btw ).
>>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> Just curious about your bios settings. Is there a configuration setting
> for the devices attached to the 3rd SATA port (SATA 5/6)? That is, a
> setting for ide master/slave, SATA...
> --
> Dave
> If you don't like the weather in Central Texas, just give it a minute...


Hi, I think it's pretty much as "Graham W," in my OP crosspost to
windowsxp.general pointed out :-
"Look in your motherboard manual. As is common with ASUS MBs with
this chipset, the black SATA ports 5 & 6 are not translated to IDE,
and are reserved for AHCI/RAID only,"

....i.e. the black ports are for RAID or AHCI setups i.e. something I've
never set up or worked on, and so was a bit disappointed that there were
only 3 "real" SATA ports on this M3N78 board. There are no settings in
bios, or information in the motherboard manual, relating to Sata5 and Sata6
other than, "If you change the 'Sata Mode Select' item in the bios to [Raid
Mode] or
[AHCI Mode], set the 'Onboard PCI IDE Controller' to [Disabled] to ensure
that SATA5 and SATA6 work normally."

Obviously I should have read up on it much more but, I would never have
guessed that Asus had fitted two extra SATA ports 5&6 which could not be
used for ordinary SATA hd's or SATA optical drives ! This also means, of
course, that one has to buy two types of drives, should one want to have 3
SATA ports available for SATA hard disks. e.g. 2 x IDE optical drives for
IDE port, leaving three SATA ports free.

....oh well, oof to ebuyer.com for a 2 port SATAII pci-e card !

regards, Richard>

On Apr 6, 6:51*pm, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ekBdwLntJHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> > After slightly rearranging my PC innards, and connecting a DVD drive toa
> > "black" SATA port, DVD drive does not show up in bios.
> > ( 3 x Red + 2 x Black SATA connectors on this Asus "M3N78" board btw ).
>
> Thanks to all who helped, except for the useless question, ("...what's this
> got to do with XP Home ed. ..etc.)
> ...to whom I simply say, I thought there might be a problem with IRQ
> conflicts, either when Windows was ordering IRQ's or when the bios was
> ordering them. *Admittedly a tenuous link to XP but, some brilliant brains
> are in this NG, and ufortunately also in here are a suprprisingly large
> number of parrots that love to ask, ...."and what has that got to do withXP
> ?"
>
> ...and thanks to Paul for you sugegestion, though I think I may buy a two
> port PCI-e SATA card, * i.e. I want to keep that eSATA port for an external
> eSATA hd *!
> ...also now that Graham W (thankyou), pointed out that "Look in your
> motherboard manual. *As is common with ASUS MBs with
> this chipset, the black SATA ports 5 & 6 are not translated to IDE,
> and are reserved for AHCI/RAID only." * I had suspected this but couldn't
> find any information in the M3N78 motherboard manual to indicate that the
> black SATA ports 5 and 6 could not be used for SATA hard disks or SATA
> optical drives. *I was guessing, or hoping that they could at least be used
> for optical drives - seeing as I had a spare SATA dvd rewriter !
> Seeing as they cannot, I may buy an IDE DVD/CD ROM drive and connect to the
> IDE port, along with my IDE DVD rewriter (master & slave), leaving me with 3
> red SATA ports for hard disks,
> ....though as I mentioned above, I am tempted to buy a PCI-e SATA card, i..e.
> I keep ending up with the wrong mix of IDE and SATA hardware, ....and I'm
> NOT going down the "adaptor" route, ...it's cheaper to buy new ROM drives,
> and sometimes cheaper to buy new DVD rewriter drives !!
>
> ...thanks again to all,
>
> regards, Richard

It seems that there are a few different versions of this
motherboard. Would this be yours?

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...specifications


If yes. I have looked on Asus' global site and I seem to have found a
revised manual. Check the download section. I seen a manual section
which clearly states:

Due to chipset's limitations, SATA 5 and SATA 6 do not support IDE
mode, only support AHCI and RAID mode.

Unfortuneately, nVidia does not seem to have included AHCI support
into the SATA controllers. Not sure these can be used as standard
SATA ports.

It seems that there are a few different versions of this
motherboard. Would this be yours?
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...specifications
If yes. I have looked on Asus' global site and I seem to have found a
revised manual. Check the download section. I seen a manual section
which clearly states:
Due to chipset's limitations, SATA 5 and SATA 6 do not support IDE
mode, only support AHCI and RAID mode.
Unfortuneately, nVidia does not seem to have included AHCI support
into the SATA controllers. Not sure these can be used as standard
SATA ports.


Hi, thanks for your post, mine is just a "M3N78" with no type suffix i.e.
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...us&model=M3N78
....then I have to select OS, ...whether this URL will work - dunno ???

I've downloaded the M3N78 *.pdf manual, ...and when I dig out a slightly
older version of Acrobat reader that does not want to take over the whole
computer for me !!!
....I'll have a good look through it to check for differences between it and
the printed one.

Thanks again

regards, Richard

On Apr 8, 8:54*am, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It seems that there are a few different versions of this
> motherboard. * Would this be yours?http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...content=specif...
> If yes. *I have looked on Asus' global site and I seem to have found a
> revised manual. *Check the download section. *I seen a manual section
> which clearly states:
> Due to chipset's limitations, SATA 5 and SATA 6 do not support IDE
> mode, only support AHCI and RAID mode.
> Unfortuneately, nVidia does not seem to have included AHCI support
> into the SATA controllers. *Not sure these can be used as standard
> SATA ports.
>
> Hi, thanks for your post, mine is just a *"M3N78" *with no type suffix i.e.http://support.asus.com/download/dow...e=en-us&model=...
> ...then I have to select OS, ...whether this URL will work - dunno ???
>
> I've downloaded the M3N78 **.pdf *manual, *...and when I dig out a slightly
> older version of Acrobat reader that does not want to take over the whole
> computer for me !!!
> ...I'll have a good look through it to check for differences between it and
> the printed one.
>
> Thanks again
>
> regards, Richard

It seems that ports 5 & 6 would only work correctly if the onboard PCI
IDE controller to "disabled." (see page Sec1:27)

"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2e1cc8ed-4a43-47bb-96f8-5f09987df5d8@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 8, 8:54 am, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It seems that there are a few different versions of this
> motherboard. Would this be
> yours?http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...content=specif...
> If yes. I have looked on Asus' global site and I seem to have found a
> revised manual. Check the download section. I seen a manual section
> which clearly states:
> Due to chipset's limitations, SATA 5 and SATA 6 do not support IDE
> mode, only support AHCI and RAID mode.
> Unfortuneately, nVidia does not seem to have included AHCI support
> into the SATA controllers. Not sure these can be used as standard
> SATA ports.
>
> Hi, thanks for your post, mine is just a "M3N78" with no type suffix
> i.e.http://support.asus.com/download/dow...e=en-us&model=...
> ...then I have to select OS, ...whether this URL will work - dunno ???
>
> I've downloaded the M3N78 *.pdf manual, ...and when I dig out a slightly
> older version of Acrobat reader that does not want to take over the whole
> computer for me !!!
> ...I'll have a good look through it to check for differences between it
> and
> the printed one.
>
> Thanks again
>
> regards, Richard

It seems that ports 5 & 6 would only work correctly if the onboard PCI
IDE controller to "disabled." (see page Sec1:27)

Correct ! ...I tried "disabled" in bios for the IDE port - i.e. Graham W
pointed out that SATA 5&6 are not translated to IDE on many Asus boards, so
my quick simple solution is to buy a SATA 2 port PCI expansion card.

Thanks for your iniput, much appreciated.

regards, Richard