1394 PCI Card Driver

When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver .

The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.

I found this link
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.

I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call PCI
OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to download the
correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!

"Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
> When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver .
>
> The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
> hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
>
> I found this link
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
> but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
>
> I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
> PCI
> OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to download
> the
> correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!

Provide the chip brand name and other info on that chip. That's if you
cannot locate the driver by the info branded on the card itself.
--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.

"Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
> When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver .
>
> The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
> hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
>
> I found this link
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
> but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
>
> I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
> PCI
> OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to download
> the
> correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!

1394 ports are also commonly referred to as "FireWire" ports. Extra
drivers should not be needed, though there are some updates.

There was a patch to fix some problems with XP SP1 and SP2 FireWire support,
but XP has never been great with FireWire. Maybe because Apple was heavily
involved, who knows?

There certainly were problems with MS's FireWire drivers; MS tried to fix
some of them by forcing the transfer speed down to a fraction of the limit
(in some cases to 12%), and had to re-patch since that was discovered to be
unacceptable.

In any case, the place to get the driver is Microsoft. Try this one.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222

Finally, the 1394 chip type/maker of the FireWire card is important - they
aren't all the same quality.

HTH
-pk

Thank you for your reply. This is the card
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-IEEE-.../dp/B0002AG0AC

Further in formation on the card itself is:
FW100 REV:1.2
Made in Taiwan
FCCE(the first C has another inside it!)

Further data on the card:
TY D/S94V-0
0204
S/N 0046770

"Lil' Dave" wrote:

> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
> > When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver .
> >
> > The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
> > hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
> >
> > I found this link
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
> > but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
> >
> > I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
> > PCI
> > OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to download
> > the
> > correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!
>
> Provide the chip brand name and other info on that chip. That's if you
> cannot locate the driver by the info branded on the card itself.
> --
> Dave
>
> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
> a cantaloupe.
>
>
>

Thank you for your help.

I followed the link you provided and will download the update if you think
it will work. However the performance of the card has not decreased...its
only when I try to shut down my computer that the problem occurs. I am also a
little worried about altering the Registry!

I gave as much info about the card as I could find in my reply to the
previous post. If you still think I should download the update and alter the
registry I will.

BTW My version of XP if fully up to date with SP2 & SP3 and Updates
automatically turned on.


"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
> > When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver .
> >
> > The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
> > hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
> >
> > I found this link
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
> > but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
> >
> > I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
> > PCI
> > OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to download
> > the
> > correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!
>
> 1394 ports are also commonly referred to as "FireWire" ports. Extra
> drivers should not be needed, though there are some updates.
>
> There was a patch to fix some problems with XP SP1 and SP2 FireWire support,
> but XP has never been great with FireWire. Maybe because Apple was heavily
> involved, who knows?
>
> There certainly were problems with MS's FireWire drivers; MS tried to fix
> some of them by forcing the transfer speed down to a fraction of the limit
> (in some cases to 12%), and had to re-patch since that was discovered to be
> unacceptable.
>
> In any case, the place to get the driver is Microsoft. Try this one.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222
>
> Finally, the 1394 chip type/maker of the FireWire card is important - they
> aren't all the same quality.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
>

Unable to locate any pertinent data based on the information provided, which
you were supposed to check. Still waiting on the chip data.

Comment: Belkin doesn't list the package noted. Version 5 of VideoStudios
is relatively old. I bought version 7 three years ago, had version 5 with
numerous patches before that.

Firewire (1394A) revision 1.2 was released to support development of 1394B
for the open host controller... The 1394B standard was complete in 2002.

Though I've never had a shutdown problem with any firewire cards, I've had
best operability with those using the oxford chipset on the 1394B interface
cards. I would suspect the card is conflicting at the bios level for
hardware irq assignment if it operates okay within XP..

--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.
"Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FD7F966F-F8A5-4D2D-9E39-DE6EB08855D7@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for your reply. This is the card
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-IEEE-.../dp/B0002AG0AC
>
> Further in formation on the card itself is:
> FW100 REV:1.2
> Made in Taiwan
> FCCE(the first C has another inside it!)
>
> Further data on the card:
> TY D/S94V-0
> 0204
> S/N 0046770
>
> "Lil' Dave" wrote:
>
>> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
>> > When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver
>> > .
>> >
>> > The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
>> > hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
>> >
>> > I found this link
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
>> > but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
>> >
>> > I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
>> > PCI
>> > OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to
>> > download
>> > the
>> > correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!
>>
>> Provide the chip brand name and other info on that chip. That's if you
>> cannot locate the driver by the info branded on the card itself.
>> --
>> Dave
>>
>> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
>> a cantaloupe.
>>
>>
>>

Pitstop wrote:
> Thank you for your help.
>
> I followed the link you provided and will download the update if you think
> it will work. However the performance of the card has not decreased...its
> only when I try to shut down my computer that the problem occurs. I am also a
> little worried about altering the Registry!
>
> I gave as much info about the card as I could find in my reply to the
> previous post. If you still think I should download the update and alter the
> registry I will.
>
> BTW My version of XP if fully up to date with SP2 & SP3 and Updates
> automatically turned on.

The card looks similar to some variants of F5U502 cards from Belkin.
It looks like a VIA Firewire chip on the card, of which there are a
number. (The pictures aren't really that clear, and this is just a
guess.)

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/peripherals/1394/

In Device Manager, you might see drivers like 1394bus.sys and ohci1394.sys.
Searching on the driver names, brought this old KB article up.

"1394 Host Controller Power Management Capabilities Are Incorrectly Reported"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328538

I doubt it is the solution, but it is something to check. That tick box
probably disappeared long ago.

Paul

>
>
> "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
>
>> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
>>> When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver .
>>>
>>> The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
>>> hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
>>>
>>> I found this link
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
>>> but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
>>>
>>> I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
>>> PCI
>>> OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to download
>>> the
>>> correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!
>> 1394 ports are also commonly referred to as "FireWire" ports. Extra
>> drivers should not be needed, though there are some updates.
>>
>> There was a patch to fix some problems with XP SP1 and SP2 FireWire support,
>> but XP has never been great with FireWire. Maybe because Apple was heavily
>> involved, who knows?
>>
>> There certainly were problems with MS's FireWire drivers; MS tried to fix
>> some of them by forcing the transfer speed down to a fraction of the limit
>> (in some cases to 12%), and had to re-patch since that was discovered to be
>> unacceptable.
>>
>> In any case, the place to get the driver is Microsoft. Try this one.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222
>>
>> Finally, the 1394 chip type/maker of the FireWire card is important - they
>> aren't all the same quality.
>>
>> HTH
>> -pk
>>
>>
>>

I think this is the chip data:

agere
FW323-05
1394A LINK/PHY
02035
SO49925

I have used the card on two different XP machines and have had the same
issues on both machines. Would you still think there is a BIOS conflict with
both machines?

"Lil' Dave" wrote:

> Unable to locate any pertinent data based on the information provided, which
> you were supposed to check. Still waiting on the chip data.
>
> Comment: Belkin doesn't list the package noted. Version 5 of VideoStudios
> is relatively old. I bought version 7 three years ago, had version 5 with
> numerous patches before that.
>
> Firewire (1394A) revision 1.2 was released to support development of 1394B
> for the open host controller... The 1394B standard was complete in 2002.
>
> Though I've never had a shutdown problem with any firewire cards, I've had
> best operability with those using the oxford chipset on the 1394B interface
> cards. I would suspect the card is conflicting at the bios level for
> hardware irq assignment if it operates okay within XP..
>
> --
> Dave
>
> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
> a cantaloupe.
> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FD7F966F-F8A5-4D2D-9E39-DE6EB08855D7@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you for your reply. This is the card
> > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-IEEE-.../dp/B0002AG0AC
> >
> > Further in formation on the card itself is:
> > FW100 REV:1.2
> > Made in Taiwan
> > FCCE(the first C has another inside it!)
> >
> > Further data on the card:
> > TY D/S94V-0
> > 0204
> > S/N 0046770
> >
> > "Lil' Dave" wrote:
> >
> >> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter' driver
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because it
> >> > hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
> >> >
> >> > I found this link
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
> >> > but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
> >> >
> >> > I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also call
> >> > PCI
> >> > OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to
> >> > download
> >> > the
> >> > correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!
> >>
> >> Provide the chip brand name and other info on that chip. That's if you
> >> cannot locate the driver by the info branded on the card itself.
> >> --
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
> >> a cantaloupe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I think I have now found the info on the chip

agere
FW323-05
1394A LINK/PNY
0203S
S049925

"Paul" wrote:


>
> The card looks similar to some variants of F5U502 cards from Belkin.
> It looks like a VIA Firewire chip on the card, of which there are a
> number. (The pictures aren't really that clear, and this is just a
> guess.)
>
> http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/peripherals/1394/
>
> In Device Manager, you might see drivers like 1394bus.sys and ohci1394.sys.
> Searching on the driver names, brought this old KB article up.
>
> "1394 Host Controller Power Management Capabilities Are Incorrectly Reported"
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328538
>
> I doubt it is the solution, but it is something to check. That tick box
> probably disappeared long ago.
>
> Paul
>

Pitstop wrote:
> I think I have now found the info on the chip
>
> agere
> FW323-05
> 1394A LINK/PNY
> 0203S
> S049925

They seem to like the FW323 here.

http://www.echoaudio.com/Support/FAQ.php#3

In a quick search, I cannot find a standby problem with
FW323. About the only thing I can suggest, is having a look
in Event Viewer, to see if there are any errors showing.
The chip is probably using the same driver stack that
all the standards compliant chips are using, the
Microsoft driver.

Paul

>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
>
>> The card looks similar to some variants of F5U502 cards from Belkin.
>> It looks like a VIA Firewire chip on the card, of which there are a
>> number. (The pictures aren't really that clear, and this is just a
>> guess.)
>>
>> http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/peripherals/1394/
>>
>> In Device Manager, you might see drivers like 1394bus.sys and ohci1394.sys.
>> Searching on the driver names, brought this old KB article up.
>>
>> "1394 Host Controller Power Management Capabilities Are Incorrectly Reported"
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328538
>>
>> I doubt it is the solution, but it is something to check. That tick box
>> probably disappeared long ago.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>

Many thanks for your further help.

I have checked the error log on both machines and there is nothing that
relates to this problem in either of them.

Somebody previously recommended using a MS patch - KB885222. I have just
tried to install it only to be advised it's already included in automatic
updates so was already on both machines.

It looks like I will have to put up with this problem. I am sure it does not
do my computer much good by disconnecting it from the mains when it hangs but
nothing else works!

"Paul" wrote:


>
> They seem to like the FW323 here.
>
> http://www.echoaudio.com/Support/FAQ.php#3
>
> In a quick search, I cannot find a standby problem with
> FW323. About the only thing I can suggest, is having a look
> in Event Viewer, to see if there are any errors showing.
> The chip is probably using the same driver stack that
> all the standards compliant chips are using, the
> Microsoft driver.
>
> Paul
>
> >
>

Agere was bought out by LSI. Information from them is pay for at their
website.
The old agere.com website does list the FW323 and FW323-06 chip, but no
FW323-05 chip. But, the information chip links are dead, and forwards to
the current lsi.com website.

--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.
"Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:83F42345-FB24-4E4C-B274-F8A3811F965F@microsoft.com...
>I think this is the chip data:
>
> agere
> FW323-05
> 1394A LINK/PHY
> 02035
> SO49925
>
> I have used the card on two different XP machines and have had the same
> issues on both machines. Would you still think there is a BIOS conflict
> with
> both machines?
>
> "Lil' Dave" wrote:
>
>> Unable to locate any pertinent data based on the information provided,
>> which
>> you were supposed to check. Still waiting on the chip data.
>>
>> Comment: Belkin doesn't list the package noted. Version 5 of
>> VideoStudios
>> is relatively old. I bought version 7 three years ago, had version 5
>> with
>> numerous patches before that.
>>
>> Firewire (1394A) revision 1.2 was released to support development of
>> 1394B
>> for the open host controller... The 1394B standard was complete in 2002.
>>
>> Though I've never had a shutdown problem with any firewire cards, I've
>> had
>> best operability with those using the oxford chipset on the 1394B
>> interface
>> cards. I would suspect the card is conflicting at the bios level for
>> hardware irq assignment if it operates okay within XP..
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>>
>> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
>> a cantaloupe.
>> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FD7F966F-F8A5-4D2D-9E39-DE6EB08855D7@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you for your reply. This is the card
>> > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-IEEE-.../dp/B0002AG0AC
>> >
>> > Further in formation on the card itself is:
>> > FW100 REV:1.2
>> > Made in Taiwan
>> > FCCE(the first C has another inside it!)
>> >
>> > Further data on the card:
>> > TY D/S94V-0
>> > 0204
>> > S/N 0046770
>> >
>> > "Lil' Dave" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Pitstop" <Pitstop@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:05B64AA1-F44B-4C52-87D5-FA3FB2DBBACC@microsoft.com...
>> >> > When I install the above card in XP it finds the '1394 Adapter'
>> >> > driver
>> >> > .
>> >> >
>> >> > The driver works OK but I am unable to shut down my computer because
>> >> > it
>> >> > hangs when closing down, going into standby or hibernation.
>> >> >
>> >> > I found this link
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nostandby.mspx
>> >> > but I did not expect a problem with MS drivers.
>> >> >
>> >> > I do not have my original CD Rom for the card but I see it is also
>> >> > call
>> >> > PCI
>> >> > OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller .Are there any reputable sites to
>> >> > download
>> >> > the
>> >> > correct driver as the one I tried also tried to scan my computer!
>> >>
>> >> Provide the chip brand name and other info on that chip. That's if
>> >> you
>> >> cannot locate the driver by the info branded on the card itself.
>> >> --
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
>> >> a cantaloupe.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Pitstop wrote:
> Many thanks for your further help.
>
> I have checked the error log on both machines and there is nothing that
> relates to this problem in either of them.
>
> Somebody previously recommended using a MS patch - KB885222. I have just
> tried to install it only to be advised it's already included in automatic
> updates so was already on both machines.
>
> It looks like I will have to put up with this problem. I am sure it does not
> do my computer much good by disconnecting it from the mains when it hangs but
> nothing else works!

I had something here, that stopped my current machine from going into
standby. There was some javascript malware in an IE folder (at
least that is what the AV detected), called JS.Close,
and by deleting all the files left in some IE folders, it
stopped happening. There was one other thing detected, in
an application I seldom if ever use (Asus Update), and I
just uninstalled that, and after that I could go to standby
again. I think that was a false positive.

I believe KB885222 is for a computer that has a 1394b chip (800Mbit/sec).
The Agere chip is a 1394a (400Mbit/sec). So the patch would be fixing
something for which you have no applicable hardware.

Paul

>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
>
>> They seem to like the FW323 here.
>>
>> http://www.echoaudio.com/Support/FAQ.php#3
>>
>> In a quick search, I cannot find a standby problem with
>> FW323. About the only thing I can suggest, is having a look
>> in Event Viewer, to see if there are any errors showing.
>> The chip is probably using the same driver stack that
>> all the standards compliant chips are using, the
>> Microsoft driver.
>>
>> Paul
>>

It took me ages to find out it was the card that was causing the problem. I
tried System Restore, Msconfig,AV progs and then Device Manager. The card was
showing as '1394 Adapter' and showing as working corrrectly but when I tried
to do anything with it the computer just hung so I then knew that was
causing the problem.
To double check I put it into a second computer so I am 100% sure it's the
card and nothing else.

"Paul" wrote:


>
> I had something here, that stopped my current machine from going into
> standby. There was some javascript malware in an IE folder (at
> least that is what the AV detected), called JS.Close,
> and by deleting all the files left in some IE folders, it
> stopped happening. There was one other thing detected, in
> an application I seldom if ever use (Asus Update), and I
> just uninstalled that, and after that I could go to standby
> again. I think that was a false positive.
>
> I believe KB885222 is for a computer that has a 1394b chip (800Mbit/sec).
> The Agere chip is a 1394a (400Mbit/sec). So the patch would be fixing
> something for which you have no applicable hardware.
>
> Paul
>

Many thanks for your reply.

I am no expert but what I cannot understand is why a Microsoft Approved
Driver is causing this problem.

The driver used appears to be 5.1.2535.0 dated 1/7/2001.This driver is
included with XP but is independent to the card.Therefore I am assuming that
MS own the driver. I must be wrong.

I can understand why Agere/LSI would update the driver for my card and get
it approved by MS but driver 5.1.2535.0 dated 1/7/2001 seems to work so why
doesn't MS upgrade it?

"Lil' Dave" wrote:

> Agere was bought out by LSI. Information from them is pay for at their
> website.
> The old agere.com website does list the FW323 and FW323-06 chip, but no
> FW323-05 chip. But, the information chip links are dead, and forwards to
> the current lsi.com website.
>
> --
> Dave
>