System Tray Icons

Seen a lot of posts relating to how to turn off system tray icons, and
really have not seen a decent answer yet.

I don't want to have the program *not* load at startup. Such as
networking. However, I also don't need windows to tell me when a
connection is working or not--on a laptop, it is obvious when the
network cable is not plugged in, and for other connectivity concerns,
it isn't that difficult to figure it out, at least if you have been
around the block once or twice. So axe the network Icons or give the
explicit ability to turn them off.

Many vendors do not provide the option of not having a system tray
icon in their apps, and being short sighted and uncarring towards
*all* their end users, should not be acceptable either. Half the oem
tools are useless duplicates of existing MS tools anyway--turn off the
icon. (System tools--isn't that what control panel is all about,
anyway?) Because I'm anal insofar as cpu and memory is concerned,
"always hide" is unacceptable. I want my cpu/memory reclaimed, it
isn't MS's place to decide outside kernel requirements. And no, it
doesn't matter how little memory/cpu is consumed, individually, yes
they are small, but when there are many, they add up--turn 'em off,
this is my system afterall, not Bill's.

IMO, the only icons in the system tray should be ones I explicitly
allow--like when OL 2k3 is minimized and the mpxptray while using
media player, so that the task bar is clear for apps that are always
being switched back and forth.

So, anyone with any ideas on correcting the system tray bug, the one
being passed off as a feature?

Greetings:

I love it when arrogant people shoot themselves in the foot in a public
newsgroup.

"So axe the network Icons or give the explicit ability to turn them off."

Control Panel | Networking | right-click on your network connection and
select Properties | remove the checkmark from 'Show icon in notification
area when connected'

"Many vendors do not provide the option of not having a system tray icon..."

And that is entirely the third party's decision. Microsoft can't prevent
it without disabling that ability for all vendors. You are, of course,
free to complain to the vendor, or hack their program on your own if you
prefer.

If the appearance of icons in the system tray is enough to get you so
worked up, friend, you need a vacation.

Earl Grey

MyD0j0 wrote:
> Seen a lot of posts relating to how to turn off system tray icons, and
> really have not seen a decent answer yet.
>
> I don't want to have the program *not* load at startup. Such as
> networking. However, I also don't need windows to tell me when a
> connection is working or not--on a laptop, it is obvious when the
> network cable is not plugged in, and for other connectivity concerns,
> it isn't that difficult to figure it out, at least if you have been
> around the block once or twice. So axe the network Icons or give the
> explicit ability to turn them off.
>
> Many vendors do not provide the option of not having a system tray
> icon in their apps, and being short sighted and uncarring towards
> *all* their end users, should not be acceptable either. Half the oem
> tools are useless duplicates of existing MS tools anyway--turn off the
> icon. (System tools--isn't that what control panel is all about,
> anyway?) Because I'm anal insofar as cpu and memory is concerned,
> "always hide" is unacceptable. I want my cpu/memory reclaimed, it
> isn't MS's place to decide outside kernel requirements. And no, it
> doesn't matter how little memory/cpu is consumed, individually, yes
> they are small, but when there are many, they add up--turn 'em off,
> this is my system afterall, not Bill's.
>
> IMO, the only icons in the system tray should be ones I explicitly
> allow--like when OL 2k3 is minimized and the mpxptray while using
> media player, so that the task bar is clear for apps that are always
> being switched back and forth.
>
> So, anyone with any ideas on correcting the system tray bug, the one
> being passed off as a feature?
>

On Feb 12, 10:34 am, Earl Grey <E...@Grey.invalid> wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> I love it when arrogant people shoot themselves in the foot in a public
> newsgroup.
>
> Control Panel | Networking | right-click on your network connection and
> select Properties | remove the checkmark from 'Show icon in notification
> area when connected'
>
> If the appearance of icons in the system tray is enough to get you so
> worked up, friend, you need a vacation.
>
> Earl Grey


Ok, Earl of Answers, you get so worked up over someone concerned with
manipulating *their* system...you made an assumption and went right on
by the issue of the network icons...
> I love it when arrogant people shoot themselves in the foot in a public
> newsgroup.
....how does the icon turn off when when not connected? I don't need
windows telling me there is no cable or that the wireless has no
connection, do you?

What he should have told you was -

Control Panel | Networking | right-click on your network connection
and select Properties | remove the checkmark from 'Notify me when this
connection has limited or no connectivity'



On Feb 12, 1:19 pm, "MyD0j0" <MyD...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 12, 10:34 am, Earl Grey <E...@Grey.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Greetings:
>
> > I love it when arrogant people shoot themselves in the foot in a public
> > newsgroup.
>
> > Control Panel | Networking | right-click on your network connection and
> > select Properties | remove the checkmark from 'Show icon in notification
> > area when connected'
>
> > If the appearance of icons in the system tray is enough to get you so
> > worked up, friend, you need a vacation.
>
> > Earl Grey
>
> Ok, Earl of Answers, you get so worked up over someone concerned with
> manipulating *their* system...you made an assumption and went right on
> by the issue of the network icons...> I love it when arrogant people shoot themselves in the foot in a public
> > newsgroup.
>
> ...how does the icon turn off when when not connected? I don't need
> windows telling me there is no cable or that the wireless has no
> connection, do you?

> What he should have told you was -
>
> Control Panel | Networking | right-click on your network connection
> and select Properties | remove the checkmark from 'Notify me when this
> connection has limited or no connectivity'
>


good pattern on the sonobouys. anti-sub?

When the checkbox is unchecked and the icon still persists?

MyD0j0 wrote:
> Seen a lot of posts relating to how to turn off system tray icons, and
> really have not seen a decent answer yet.
>
> I don't want to have the program *not* load at startup. Such as
> networking. However, I also don't need windows to tell me when a
> connection is working or not--on a laptop, it is obvious when the
> network cable is not plugged in, and for other connectivity concerns,
> it isn't that difficult to figure it out, at least if you have been
> around the block once or twice. So axe the network Icons or give the
> explicit ability to turn them off.
>
> Many vendors do not provide the option of not having a system tray
> icon in their apps, and being short sighted and uncarring towards
> *all* their end users, should not be acceptable either. Half the oem
> tools are useless duplicates of existing MS tools anyway--turn off the
> icon. (System tools--isn't that what control panel is all about,
> anyway?) Because I'm anal insofar as cpu and memory is concerned,
> "always hide" is unacceptable. I want my cpu/memory reclaimed, it
> isn't MS's place to decide outside kernel requirements. And no, it
> doesn't matter how little memory/cpu is consumed, individually, yes
> they are small, but when there are many, they add up--turn 'em off,
> this is my system afterall, not Bill's.
>
> IMO, the only icons in the system tray should be ones I explicitly
> allow--like when OL 2k3 is minimized and the mpxptray while using
> media player, so that the task bar is clear for apps that are always
> being switched back and forth.
>
> So, anyone with any ideas on correcting the system tray bug, the one
> being passed off as a feature?

You need to learn how to read; you've stated several errors in this post and
made allegations that just aren't true. I'm not inclined to help people
with attitudes such as yours other than to tell you go to get a different OS
if you dislike this one that much.

> You need to learn how to read; you've stated several errors in this post and
> made allegations that just aren't true. I'm not inclined to help people
> with attitudes such as yours other than to tell you go to get a different OS
> if you dislike this one that much.


The original post stated nothing more than my opinion--it was those
assuming it was anything more than simple frustration at the lack of
user interface control for the user that I responded to in kind. You
people want to take this garbage personally, which is your own problem
being made others' for want of being technically superior to others.
Pretend away, i've read the posts and the kb articles: put 6 hrs into
it and there is no answer for making a user interface non-user
customizable.

And yes, many user interface shells are user interfaces.
Unfortunately, not everyone believes they too can over come the low
learning curve of Linux and I find myself continuing to help many who
choose to pay to double their security costs.

You could use the Task Bar properties feature that hides the icons "when
inactive" or "always hide" - that's one 'work around' if there's nothing in
the parent application to turn off those icons.

"MyD0j0" <MyD0j0@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171296206.296245.159750@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Seen a lot of posts relating to how to turn off system tray icons, and
> really have not seen a decent answer yet.
>
> I don't want to have the program *not* load at startup. Such as
> networking. However, I also don't need windows to tell me when a
> connection is working or not--on a laptop, it is obvious when the
> network cable is not plugged in, and for other connectivity concerns,
> it isn't that difficult to figure it out, at least if you have been
> around the block once or twice. So axe the network Icons or give the
> explicit ability to turn them off.
>
> Many vendors do not provide the option of not having a system tray
> icon in their apps, and being short sighted and uncarring towards
> *all* their end users, should not be acceptable either. Half the oem
> tools are useless duplicates of existing MS tools anyway--turn off the
> icon. (System tools--isn't that what control panel is all about,
> anyway?) Because I'm anal insofar as cpu and memory is concerned,
> "always hide" is unacceptable. I want my cpu/memory reclaimed, it
> isn't MS's place to decide outside kernel requirements. And no, it
> doesn't matter how little memory/cpu is consumed, individually, yes
> they are small, but when there are many, they add up--turn 'em off,
> this is my system afterall, not Bill's.
>
> IMO, the only icons in the system tray should be ones I explicitly
> allow--like when OL 2k3 is minimized and the mpxptray while using
> media player, so that the task bar is clear for apps that are always
> being switched back and forth.
>
> So, anyone with any ideas on correcting the system tray bug, the one
> being passed off as a feature?
>

Whether or not I want to remove my network connection from my systray, I
followed your instructions and the option to uncheck "Show icon in
notification area when connected" wasn't available.

I agree that this isn't Microsoft's problem or fault but we come here to
find answers to questions such as this because we use Microsoft Windows (I
do, anyway). I have about 10 icons in my system tray and I hide them because
they're not in Services and Applications, which leaves out the option to stop
them and put them on manual. I won't go into msconfig and turn them off or
make Registry changes either. What we're basically asking is, is there a
magic formula to get the icons out of systray without uninstalling the
programs or stopping them from running in msconfig?
--
Denise

~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're going.