Is firewire to usb cable ok for connecting DV videocamera (firewire) to my PC (usb) ?

There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
elsewhere.
Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
firewire PCI card installed in PC,
for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
disk ?

One offer from eBay is the following:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...QQcmdZViewItem

thanks,

Darius

On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2...@yahoo.ie> wrote:
> >> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
> >> elsewhere.
> >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
> >> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
> >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
> >> disk ?
>
> >> One offer from eBay is the
> >> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...n-1394-Cable-C...
>
> >> thanks,
>
> >> Darius
>
> > This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name
>
> > USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE
>
> > see the following link:
> > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb
> > +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc
> > %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo
> > %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
>
> > Darius
>
> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also
> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG.
>
> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or
> if it damages your equipment.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
> letters617blochg3251
> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it
but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin
firewire) with PC (usb).
I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from
a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different
video cams.
One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam.
Thanks.

Darius

On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2...@yahoo.ie> wrote:
>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
>>>> disk ?
>>
>>>> One offer from eBay is the
>>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...n-1394-Cable-C...
>>>> thanks,
>>
>>>> Darius
>>
>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name
>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE
>>> see the following link:
>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb
>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc
>>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo
>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
>>> Darius
>>
>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also
>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG.
>>
>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or
>> if it damages your equipment.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
>> letters617blochg3251
>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
>
> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it
> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin
> firewire) with PC (usb).
> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from
> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different
> video cams.
> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam.
> Thanks.
>
> Darius

I guess my sarcasm was unclear.

1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire
or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures
in your links.

2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to
a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one
or both ends.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid...
> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
>> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2...@yahoo.ie> wrote:
>>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
>>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
>>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
>>>>> disk ?
>>>
>>>>> One offer from eBay is the
>>>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...n-1394-Cable-C...
>>>>> thanks,
>>>
>>>>> Darius
>>>
>>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name
>>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE
>>>> see the following link:
>>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
>>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb
>>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc
>>>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo
>>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
>>>> Darius
>>>
>>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also
>>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG.
>>>
>>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or
>>> if it damages your equipment.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
>>> letters617blochg3251
>>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
>>
>> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it
>> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin
>> firewire) with PC (usb).
>> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from
>> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different
>> video cams.
>> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Darius
>
> I guess my sarcasm was unclear.
>
> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or
> vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in
> your links.
>
> 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a
> FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or
> both ends.
>

It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors.

Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two
protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver
will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199
you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of
time and money.






> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
> letters617blochg3251
> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
>
>

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote ...
> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire
> or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the
> pictures in your links.

The chip to do Firewire<->USB2 is small enough that it could
easily fit into the moulded connector "handle" on either end.

> 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to
> a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one
> or both ends.

I wouldn't expect damage. But I would be VERY surprised if
it worked for transferring video between camcorder and PC.

Native USB2 and native Firewire are each tricky in their own
respects. Making a "universal" conversion cable just does not
seem like a practical thing. But it is certainly worth trying for
that very low price.

"Elan Magavi" wrote ...

> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two
> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that
> driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work.
> However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ...
> this would be a waste of time and money.

$199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.
That is less than US$ 2

"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
>
>> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two
>> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that
>> driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However,
>> for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be
>> a waste of time and money.
>
> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.
> That is less than US$ 2

the "buy it now" was $199


>

"Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> "Richard Crowley" wrote ...
>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.
>> That is less than US$ 2
>
> the "buy it now" was $199

Your computer is seriously broken.

I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985)
and it says...

"Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)"

Ο "Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
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>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid...
> > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
> >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
> >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2...@yahoo.ie> wrote:
> >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
> >>>>> elsewhere.
> >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
> >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
> >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to
hard
> >>>>> disk ?
> >>>
> >>>>> One offer from eBay is the
> >>>>>
following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...-Pin-1394-Cabl
e-C...
> >>>>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>>>> Darius
> >>>
> >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name
> >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE
> >>>> see the following link:
> >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb
> >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc
> >>>>
%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop
=1%26fsoo
> >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
> >>>> Darius
> >>>
> >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also
> >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work
or
> >>> if it damages your equipment.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
> >>> letters617blochg3251
> >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
> >>
> >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it
> >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin
> >> firewire) with PC (usb).
> >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from
> >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different
> >> video cams.
> >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Darius
> >
> > I guess my sarcasm was unclear.
> >
> > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire
or
> > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in
> > your links.
> >
> > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a
> > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or
> > both ends.
> >
>
> It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors.
>
> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two
> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that
driver
> will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for
$199
> you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of
> time and money.
>

Not five, ten.I got a cliptech firewire card complete with cable and ulead
video software for 19 euros.The claim being able to connect USB with IEEE
1394 is adjacent to being able to connect an 110 V apparatus on a 220 V
outlet:-pAmd since delicate and expensive electronics are involved, I
wouldn't recommend it.It is also very expensive for $199
>
>
>
>
> > --

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr

"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message
news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com...
> "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
>> "Richard Crowley" wrote ...
>>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.
>>> That is less than US$ 2
>>
>> the "buy it now" was $199
>
> Your computer is seriously broken.

naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it
Now": US $199.00

HOWEVER, it DOES say 100 pcs.. Which I completely missed. Doh!





>
> I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985)
> and it says...
>
> "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)"

"Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message
> news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
>>> "Richard Crowley" wrote ...
>>>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.
>>>> That is less than US$ 2
>>>
>>> the "buy it now" was $199
>>
>> Your computer is seriously broken.
>
> naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it
> Now": US $199.00


"Buy it now" ... My computer may actually BE broekn. :}

la-la wrote:
> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
> elsewhere.
> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
> disk ?
>
> One offer from eBay is the following:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...QQcmdZViewItem
>
> thanks,
>
> Darius
>

Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a
simple firewire card that may or may not really work?

"Ray S" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:fXIxh.2225$G23.2170@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
> la-la wrote:
>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
>> elsewhere.
>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
>> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
>> disk ?
>>
>> One offer from eBay is the following:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Darius
>>
>
> Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a
> simple firewire card that may or may not really work?

my bad.. they're $1.99!! Even more of a reason to stay way from them.
>
>
>

"Ray S" wrote ...
> la-la wrote:
>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
>> elsewhere.
>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
>> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
>> disk ?
>>
>> One offer from eBay is the following:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Darius
>>
>
> Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a
> simple firewire card that may or may not really work?

At $2, it costs a fraction of the cheapest firewire card
(~$15 in my neighborhood)

Richard Crowley wrote:
> "Ray S" wrote ...
>> la-la wrote:
>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
>>> elsewhere.
>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to
>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC,
>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard
>>> disk ?
>>>
>>> One offer from eBay is the following:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2...QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Darius
>>>
>> Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a
>> simple firewire card that may or may not really work?
>
> At $2, it costs a fraction of the cheapest firewire card
> (~$15 in my neighborhood)
>
>

Well then, lets send someone out to by some and test them out.