Norton Ghost 2003 LiveUpdate Discontinued?

Evidently Ghost 2003 needs build 793 for robust support of external
USB drives. However, Systemworks 2003 LiveUpdate reports all components
up to date when Ghost is at build 775 (as installed from the CD).
Running LiveUpdate repeatedly, as suggested, does not help.

Ghost 2003 has been "discontinued" by Symantec, but would they have
shut down LiveUpdate, thus depriving all of the latest working version?

And, indeed, build 775 does not work with an external USB drive in an
attempted cloning operation. It hangs.

I see that others have reported problems updating Ghost 203 recently,
but someone at Symantec Live Chat claims LiveUpdate should work --
although their website has a cryptic page that says that "Files and
Updates" for Ghost 2003 are no longer available.

I imagine this could be catastrophic for people who have backup Ghost
images and have lost their updated Ghost installations or boot disks.
Does anyone know more about this?

<cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157096414.996742.69410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Evidently Ghost 2003 needs build 793 for robust support of external
> USB drives. However, Systemworks 2003 LiveUpdate reports all components
> up to date when Ghost is at build 775 (as installed from the CD).
> Running LiveUpdate repeatedly, as suggested, does not help.
>
> Ghost 2003 has been "discontinued" by Symantec, but would they have
> shut down LiveUpdate, thus depriving all of the latest working version?
>
> And, indeed, build 775 does not work with an external USB drive in an
> attempted cloning operation. It hangs.
>
> I see that others have reported problems updating Ghost 203 recently,
> but someone at Symantec Live Chat claims LiveUpdate should work --
> although their website has a cryptic page that says that "Files and
> Updates" for Ghost 2003 are no longer available.
>
> I imagine this could be catastrophic for people who have backup Ghost
> images and have lost their updated Ghost installations or boot disks.
> Does anyone know more about this?
>

Here's a place to download the updates.
http://pcsystems.princeton.edu/nav/ng2003b789_en.x86
http://pcsystems.princeton.edu/nav/ng2003b793_en.x86

<cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157096414.996742.69410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Evidently Ghost 2003 needs build 793 for robust support of external
> USB drives. However, Systemworks 2003 LiveUpdate reports all components
> up to date when Ghost is at build 775 (as installed from the CD).
> Running LiveUpdate repeatedly, as suggested, does not help.
>
> Ghost 2003 has been "discontinued" by Symantec, but would they have
> shut down LiveUpdate, thus depriving all of the latest working version?
>
> And, indeed, build 775 does not work with an external USB drive in an
> attempted cloning operation. It hangs.
>
> I see that others have reported problems updating Ghost 203 recently,
> but someone at Symantec Live Chat claims LiveUpdate should work --
> although their website has a cryptic page that says that "Files and
> Updates" for Ghost 2003 are no longer available.
>
> I imagine this could be catastrophic for people who have backup Ghost
> images and have lost their updated Ghost installations or boot disks.
> Does anyone know more about this?
>

In case you didn't know. After you download and unzip the 793 file, just
copy and paste all the files from it into your ghost folder. Let it
overwrite the old files. Then you will be up to build 793.

Many thanks, that's great. Ghost is now at build 793. Will be trying
the disk cloning again after the weekend.

bud wrote:
> <cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157096414.996742.69410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Evidently Ghost 2003 needs build 793 for robust support of external
> > USB drives. However, Systemworks 2003 LiveUpdate reports all components
> > up to date when Ghost is at build 775 (as installed from the CD).
> > Running LiveUpdate repeatedly, as suggested, does not help.
> >
> > Ghost 2003 has been "discontinued" by Symantec, but would they have
> > shut down LiveUpdate, thus depriving all of the latest working version?
> >
> > And, indeed, build 775 does not work with an external USB drive in an
> > attempted cloning operation. It hangs.
> >
> > I see that others have reported problems updating Ghost 203 recently,
> > but someone at Symantec Live Chat claims LiveUpdate should work --
> > although their website has a cryptic page that says that "Files and
> > Updates" for Ghost 2003 are no longer available.
> >
> > I imagine this could be catastrophic for people who have backup Ghost
> > images and have lost their updated Ghost installations or boot disks.
> > Does anyone know more about this?
> >
>
> In case you didn't know. After you download and unzip the 793 file, just
> copy and paste all the files from it into your ghost folder. Let it
> overwrite the old files. Then you will be up to build 793.

Well it wasn't so simple after all... Symantec updates must be done
sequentially (i.e. each update they have released must be done, not
just the last one). But the first of the two updates linked above (for
build 789) does not seem to exist at that site. Applying only the 793
update did not result in a working boot disk.

I also wonder if one can duplicate the effect of a LiveUpdate session
by just copying files to a single directory. Some of the files Ghost
puts on its boot disk seem to come not from the Ghost directory under
Program Files, but from the one under Application Data. One file that
comes from there is ASPIECHI.SYS, and Symantec (and other websites) say
that early versions of this file cause USB access to fail. (The 793
directory update from Princeton did note contain that file).

However, even if after downloading this file from Symantec (not the
easiest thing to find by the way), the boot disk hangs. So it seems
that (a) you cannot skip the 789 update, and (b) it is probably not
enough to update files in the Program Files Ghost directory only. If
it's true that Symantec has killed Ghost 2003 LiveUpdate, anyone trying
to install it from CD on a new computer will have no USB functionality
(IMO).

Needless to say, no more Symantec products for me.

bud wrote:
> <cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157096414.996742.69410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Evidently Ghost 2003 needs build 793 for robust support of external
> > USB drives. However, Systemworks 2003 LiveUpdate reports all components
> > up to date when Ghost is at build 775 (as installed from the CD).
> > Running LiveUpdate repeatedly, as suggested, does not help.
> >
> > Ghost 2003 has been "discontinued" by Symantec, but would they have
> > shut down LiveUpdate, thus depriving all of the latest working version?
> >
> > And, indeed, build 775 does not work with an external USB drive in an
> > attempted cloning operation. It hangs.
> >
> > I see that others have reported problems updating Ghost 203 recently,
> > but someone at Symantec Live Chat claims LiveUpdate should work --
> > although their website has a cryptic page that says that "Files and
> > Updates" for Ghost 2003 are no longer available.
> >
> > I imagine this could be catastrophic for people who have backup Ghost
> > images and have lost their updated Ghost installations or boot disks.
> > Does anyone know more about this?
> >
>
> In case you didn't know. After you download and unzip the 793 file, just
> copy and paste all the files from it into your ghost folder. Let it
> overwrite the old files. Then you will be up to build 793.

<cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157174094.436974.81100@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Well it wasn't so simple after all... Symantec updates must be done
> sequentially (i.e. each update they have released must be done, not
> just the last one). But the first of the two updates linked above (for
> build 789) does not seem to exist at that site. Applying only the 793
> update did not result in a working boot disk.
>

Try this link. It worked for me.
http://www.tricity.wsu.edu/~ctc/lu/ng2003b789_en.x86

Thanks again, bud. That link worked. However I still had no luck with
Ghost/USB for some reason. I uninstalled the old Ghost and installed a
fresh one, and then I added the files from the two update directories,
then created a new boot disk -- but on reboot, that hangs again (though
it displays a later version and date).

Finally I downloaded the evaluation copy of Acronis True Image, and
after a couple of clicks I cloned my hard drive via USB and installed
the new one.in my computer. It was completely straightforward

Your help was much appreciated though.

bud wrote:
> <cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157174094.436974.81100@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Well it wasn't so simple after all... Symantec updates must be done
> > sequentially (i.e. each update they have released must be done, not
> > just the last one). But the first of the two updates linked above (for
> > build 789) does not seem to exist at that site. Applying only the 793
> > update did not result in a working boot disk.
> >
>
> Try this link. It worked for me.
> http://www.tricity.wsu.edu/~ctc/lu/ng2003b789_en.x86