Multiple BSODs on boot/startup

karanberry

Can you please elaborate the steps you have taken to reach that
conclusion?

How many RAM sticks are installed? Are they all of the same type?

What is your computer make and model.

Is there a any correlation in time between the last installation of RAM
and the beginning of your problem?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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karanberry wrote:
> well the problem looks like its with the new RAM...the funny thing is
> restarting the comp is not a problem but booting it is a pain!!
>
> anyway to resolve it without having to remove the RAM?!! :P

[karanberry]

i think its DUMBER to perceive it as a question, its clearly supposed to be a joke

Gerry, i removed the new RAM and stopped getting the BSODs, hence i think its the RAM. and yes the problem did start with the installation of the new ram but there were so many other changes at that time that i wasnt able to pinpoint the problem.

No such thing as a DUMB question---only DUMB people call them that.
"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message
news:5gq1m4p3o5gl7motp6ra6r4k9711phkus6@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:47:09 +0530, karanberry
> <karanberry.3lhyfd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>well the problem looks like its with the new RAM...the funny thing is
>>restarting the comp is not a problem but booting it is a pain!!
>>
>>anyway to resolve it without having to remove the RAM?!! :P
>
> That is a really DUMB question.

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:49:06 -0600, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
wrote:

>No such thing as a DUMB question---only DUMB people call them that.

Bozo has identified the RAM as being bad, so rather than replace it,
bozo asks if there is any way to fix the problem without replacing the
RAM.

That's just plain DUMB.

As was your reply.


>"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message
>news:5gq1m4p3o5gl7motp6ra6r4k9711phkus6@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:47:09 +0530, karanberry
>> <karanberry.3lhyfd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>well the problem looks like its with the new RAM...the funny thing is
>>>restarting the comp is not a problem but booting it is a pain!!
>>>
>>>anyway to resolve it without having to remove the RAM?!! :P
>>
>> That is a really DUMB question.
>

So because of that you immediately have to put your 2 cents in which results
in an insult.
Now you call him Bozo. Why don't you ignore?
"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message
news:75d2m4pj900q3r29ebvk3v4qdab0o0fadm@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:49:06 -0600, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
> wrote:
>
>>No such thing as a DUMB question---only DUMB people call them that.
>
> Bozo has identified the RAM as being bad, so rather than replace it,
> bozo asks if there is any way to fix the problem without replacing the
> RAM.
>
> That's just plain DUMB.
>
> As was your reply.
>
>
>>"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:5gq1m4p3o5gl7motp6ra6r4k9711phkus6@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:47:09 +0530, karanberry
>>> <karanberry.3lhyfd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>well the problem looks like its with the new RAM...the funny thing is
>>>>restarting the comp is not a problem but booting it is a pain!!
>>>>
>>>>anyway to resolve it without having to remove the RAM?!! :P
>>>
>>> That is a really DUMB question.
>>

karanberry

How did you you acquire the new memory? What was the source of advice
you were relying on to get the memory?

How many new sticks were installed? What is not clear is whether the new
memory was unsuitable or whether a stick was damaged?

What is your computer make and model?


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


karanberry wrote:
> i think its DUMBER to perceive it as a question, its clearly supposed
> to be a joke
>
> Gerry, i removed the new RAM and stopped getting the BSODs, hence i
> think its the RAM. and yes the problem did start with the installation
> of the new ram but there were so many other changes at that time that
> i wasnt able to pinpoint the problem.

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:37:14 -0600, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
wrote:

>So because of that you immediately have to put your 2 cents in which results
>in an insult.
>Now you call him Bozo. Why don't you ignore?

Speaking of "Bozo", I think I'll just ignore YOU.


>"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message
>news:75d2m4pj900q3r29ebvk3v4qdab0o0fadm@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:49:06 -0600, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>No such thing as a DUMB question---only DUMB people call them that.
>>
>> Bozo has identified the RAM as being bad, so rather than replace it,
>> bozo asks if there is any way to fix the problem without replacing the
>> RAM.
>>
>> That's just plain DUMB.
>>
>> As was your reply.
>>
>>
>>>"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:5gq1m4p3o5gl7motp6ra6r4k9711phkus6@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:47:09 +0530, karanberry
>>>> <karanberry.3lhyfd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>well the problem looks like its with the new RAM...the funny thing is
>>>>>restarting the comp is not a problem but booting it is a pain!!
>>>>>
>>>>>anyway to resolve it without having to remove the RAM?!! :P
>>>>
>>>> That is a really DUMB question.
>>>
>

[karanberry]

How did you you acquire the new memory? What was the source of advice
you were relying on to get the memory?

How many new sticks were installed? What is not clear is whether the new
memory was unsuitable or whether a stick was damaged?

What is your computer make and model?

I got the new memory from a local vendor, the guy who repaired my motherboard recommended him!!

Initially only 1 stick of 128MB was installed, the new one was for 512 MB. Both DDR1.

Computer details are in the attached text file.

Thanks for looking into this with so much detail :)

I think this is the Manual for your computer:
http://download.asrock.com/manual/P4i45G.pdf

The memory requirements are on page 5:
Memory: 2 slots for DDR: DIMM1 and DIMM2 (PC1600/ PC2100), Max. 2GB;
2 slots for SDR: DIMM3 and DIMM4 (PC133), Max. 2GBMemory:

I cannot reconcile what is installed with the Manual. You seem to have
two different types of memory but I am not sure whether the difference
is significant or has any bearing on your problem. You need someone with
more knowledge than I have to advise you as to whether the installed
memory is suitable for the computer.

DIMM1
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Hyundai Electronics (AD00000000000000)
Size 128 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2700 (166 MHz)

DIMM2
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Xerox (4343415400000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)

Which memory originally came with the computer?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
karanberry wrote:
>> How did you you acquire the new memory? What was the source of advice
>> you were relying on to get the memory?
>>
>> How many new sticks were installed? What is not clear is whether the
>> new
>> memory was unsuitable or whether a stick was damaged?
>>
>> What is your computer make and model?
>
>
> I got the new memory from a local vendor, the guy who repaired my
> motherboard recommended him!!
>
> Initially only 1 stick of 128MB was installed, the new one was for 512
> MB. Both DDR1.
>
> Computer details are in the attached text file.
>
> Thanks for looking into this with so much detail :)
>
>
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[karanberry]

ok, will ask around about the memory compatibility issue

The 128MB stick came with the comp

[karanberry]

the weird thing is that i'm still able to boot into safe mode without any issues, shouldn't i be getting blue screens then as well if my ram is corrupt or unsuitable?

Have a look in the System log in Event Viewer for Errors and Warnings
and post copies here. Don't post any more than 48
hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

Include in your response your equivalent of this message.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 03/01/2009
Time: 18:32:46
User: N/A
Computer: PC0939
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
AFD
AvgLdx86
AvgMfx86
BANTExt
Fips
intelppm
IPSec
NetBT
RasAcd
Tcpip

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
karanberry wrote:
> the weird thing is that i'm still able to boot into safe mode without
> any issues, shouldn't i be getting blue screens then as well if my ram
> is corrupt or unsuitable?

[karanberry]

Hey these are the errors and warnings i've received in the last 48 hours

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 1/9/2009
Time: 5:13:47 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ABC-A1E0F6CB98B
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
AvgLdx86

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: W32Time
Event Category: None
Event ID: 36
Date: 1/9/2009
Time: 12:48:52 AM
User: N/A
Computer: ABC-A1E0F6CB98B
Description:
The time service has not been able to synchronize the system time for 49152 seconds because none of the time providers has been able to provide a usable time stamp. The system clock is unsynchronized.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Windows Update Agent
Event Category: Software Sync
Event ID: 16
Date: 1/8/2009
Time: 9:21:33 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ABC-A1E0F6CB98B
Description:
Unable to Connect: Windows is unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore cannot download and install updates according to the set schedule. Windows will continue to try to establish a connection.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 57 69 6e 33 32 48 52 65 Win32HRe
0008: 73 75 6c 74 3d 30 78 30 sult=0x0
0010: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 20 0000000
0018: 55 70 64 61 74 65 49 44 UpdateID
0020: 3d 7b 30 30 30 30 30 30 ={000000
0028: 30 30 2d 30 30 30 30 2d 00-0000-
0030: 30 30 30 30 2d 30 30 30 0000-000
0038: 30 2d 30 30 30 30 30 30 0-000000
0040: 30 30 30 30 30 30 7d 20 000000}
0048: 52 65 76 69 73 69 6f 6e Revision
0050: 4e 75 6d 62 65 72 3d 30 Number=0
0058: 20 00

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Tcpip
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4226
Date: 1/8/2009
Time: 4:10:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ABC-A1E0F6CB98B
Description:
TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 82 10 00 80 ....‚..€
0010: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: DCOM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 10005
Date: 1/8/2009
Time: 11:05:00 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: ABC-A1E0F6CB98B
Description:
DCOM got error "This service cannot be started in Safe Mode " attempting to start the service EventSystem with arguments "" in order to run the server:
{1BE1F766-5536-11D1-B726-00C04FB926AF}

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.