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Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

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Old 08-07-2008
piccolo
 
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Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

Somehow, I wound buying a Dell Precision workstation with Windows XP 64-bit
installed on it only to discover that a LOT of my software is not 64-bit
compatible and never will be. HP, Nikon, even Adobe don't appear to have
functioning fixes for Windows XP 64-bit. So I am faced with having to buy an
OEM version of Windows XP 32-bit and installing that if I want to use my
existing software library.

Never having installed an OS before, the prospect of installing Windows XP
32 scares me and I thought I would ask here for advice.
1. am I going to need special cables, etc. or will the thing load from the
CD?
2. I presume I can get the necessary drivers either off the Cd that came
with the computer or from Dell as the OEM?
3. could I have a problem that Windows XP 32 is an older system than
Windows XP 64 (and the installer decides it won't overwrite)?
4. Assuming that I am not going to want to migrate the XP 32 license from
this machine to another, is there any reason to buy a retail rather than the
OEM version I can get from Dell?
5. If the world changes and more companies offer 64-bit drivers and
software and I want to go back to a 64-bit machine, will I be able to reload
the original Windows XP 64 OS?

What else should I be asking and haven't?

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Old 08-07-2008
Charlie Russel - MVP
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

1.) Will load from CD
2.) Generally, yes, you'll get drivers from Dell.
3.) It will overwrite because you're going to delete the existing partition
and start over. Don't attempt to install without formatting the current OS
partition or simply deleting and recreating it. You'll have a mess if you
do.
4.) None, except that you'll be stuck on this machine with it. Given that
you're paying twice as is, I'd go with a second OEM.
5.) Yes, since you have your original OEM copy. BUT, you can't ever
"upgrade" or "migrate" - it's always a clean install. I'd strongly suggest
you partition your workstation to keep all important data files off on a
separate partition from the OS so that you can easily re-install as
required.

6.) Anything else? Yes - if you're buying a Dell Precision, you're very
likely the sort of user who needs and uses a very powerful machine. That
usually also means a lot of RAM. Your absolute maximum with 32-bit is 4 GB,
and you'll not see much more than about 3GB of that. If you need >4GB of
RAM, you really don't have a choice - you need to run 64-bit Windows.

7.) Most of that software will run on 64-bit, though one or another will
possibly have a piece of it that doesn't work, such as a print driver. For
software that doesn't work, consider running a 32-bit VM inside your
existing 64-bit XP. For many things, this is a very viable workaround. (no,
it won't solve all hardware specific driver issues, and if your software
needs USB you'll need to use VMWare instead of VirtualPC or Virtual Server,
but for a definite majority of software issues, it works quite well.)
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Old 09-07-2008
piccolo
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

As you can tell from the other thread, it seems to me that it might almost
be easier to creat a VPM than to completely re-install everything.

If I do that, it would leave two niggling problems in the operation of the
64-bit machine that you might be able to fix:
1. Adobe Flash won't run on a 64-bit IE. There is supposed to be a 32-bit IE
that runs on a 64-bit machine but I can't find it. Any ideas?
2. WMP 11 won't run in mini-mode on the 64-bit OS. Is there a fix? Or is
this a question I should take over to the Media Player newsgroup?
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Old 09-07-2008
Stefan Pendl
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

1) there are not many browser plug-ins published for 64-bit IE
if you did not change anything from the default installation, 32-bit
IE is the standard browser.
If you migrated the Windows settings from a previous version of
windows, your short cuts are pointing to the 64-bit version, which you
must correct.

32-bit IE is located under C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer

64-bit IE is located under C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer

2) I have not tested it, but there should be no difference
have you checked the mini-mode status bar in the context menu of the
task bar ?
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Old 09-07-2008
piccolo
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

I found both versions and have changed my shortcuts to point at the 32-bit
version.

As to WMP 11, the taskbar does not show the mini-mode toolbar at all. I
think I asked this question before and someone said that WMP is not really
supported in 64-bit. Thanks anyway.
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Old 09-07-2008
Charlie Russel - MVP
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

IE is 32bit by default. Both are there. If you migrated, you may have to
change some shortcuts.

WMP - in XP 64, no taskbar player. There is one in Vista 64, but it never
got back ported to XP x64.
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Old 10-07-2008
Colin Barnhorst
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

4. Yes, there is a reason not to buy an OEM pack. The purchaser of
software under an OEM (System Builder) License is not granted the right to
use the software. He is granted only the right to install the software on a
system for sale to a customer. Please read the OEM (System Builder) License
at:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx
It is much shorter than the EULA so a peek.

The OEM (System Builder) License is not an end user license.

Resellers of OEM packs display a disclaimer reminding end users about this.
NewEgg puts the following disclaimer on the Specifications tab of the
product information/order page:

"Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of
the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for
pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. This OEM System
Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support
for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once
it is installed. To acquire Windows software with support provided by
Microsoft please see our full package "Retail" product offerings."

Look at this example on NewEgg and you will see a slightly abbreviated
version right on the catalog page.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&name=Business
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Old 10-07-2008
piccolo
 
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Just to let you know that I got the virtual machine up and running with Win
XP 32-bit OS without a hitch. So thanks again for your help and patience.
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Old 11-12-2009
andrea stupid
 
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Re: Installing Windows XP 32-bit over Windows XP 64-bit

you make this sould easy, but I am amazingly ignorant for basic computer
knowledge- learning as I go but don't have much experience. Can you please
break it down for me- I can't run the adobe flash, I have just installed
windows 7 and obviously don't know how to change back to 32 bit to make Adobe
download. Please help- way easy steps, please. Also, while I have you, does
anyone know what Button monitor is? I keep getting the message that it isnt
working- thanks!!!
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