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Old 01-04-2008
FirstBee
 
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Slow network performance with Media Centre


I have an 10/100 wired connection through a linksys router to an XBOX
360 and am running Windows Vista Home Premium SP1. I've had ZERO
succuss in playing MCE content - ie MP3s and viewing JPGs - on the XBox.
The Media Center menus on the Xbox are intolerably slow, taking 5-30
seconds to respond. Eventually if I have the patience to wait until the
XBOX Media center accesses the files located on the Vista machine it
takes upwards of 2 minutes just to load one jpg. When I run the tune
network tool in WMC I get a message saying that:

"Your network may not have enough bandwidth for consistent performance
on your extender device."

When I view the performance graph in the tool my bandwith barely
registers on the graph.

Other things I have tried to no avail:
- turned off all firewalls
- unitstalled anti-virus software
- port forwarded the following ports in the router, TCP2869, TCP10243,
UDP1900, UDP10280 to UDP10284
- played with the flow control settings
- tried selecting all possible "speed & duplex" settings

Support from Microsoft sucks:mad:. The XBox people have pawned me off
on the Vista support people. I wouldn't let the Vista support people
hand me back to the XBox people...although they tried pretty hard. The
Vista support people are saying they need to recreate the problem in
their lab and get back to me...ya right.

I'm at a loss:confused:..please help.


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  #2  
Old 01-04-2008
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre

You may try to disable IPv6 first. if that doesn't fix the problem, try to
disable auto tuning. These how to may help. Please post back with the
result.

Vista IPCONFIG and Network SettingsHow to disable Auto-tuning on Windows
Vista · How to disable TCP/IPv6 · How to remove IPv6 and Tunnel completely
on Vista ...How to disable Auto-tuning on Windows Vista ...
www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vistaipconfig.htm



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"FirstBee" <FirstBee.37618t@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have an 10/100 wired connection through a linksys router to an XBOX
> 360 and am running Windows Vista Home Premium SP1. I've had ZERO
> succuss in playing MCE content - ie MP3s and viewing JPGs - on the XBox.
> The Media Center menus on the Xbox are intolerably slow, taking 5-30
> seconds to respond. Eventually if I have the patience to wait until the
> XBOX Media center accesses the files located on the Vista machine it
> takes upwards of 2 minutes just to load one jpg. When I run the tune
> network tool in WMC I get a message saying that:
>
> "Your network may not have enough bandwidth for consistent performance
> on your extender device."
>
> When I view the performance graph in the tool my bandwith barely
> registers on the graph.
>
> Other things I have tried to no avail:
> - turned off all firewalls
> - unitstalled anti-virus software
> - port forwarded the following ports in the router, TCP2869, TCP10243,
> UDP1900, UDP10280 to UDP10284
> - played with the flow control settings
> - tried selecting all possible "speed & duplex" settings
>
> Support from Microsoft sucks:mad:. The XBox people have pawned me off
> on the Vista support people. I wouldn't let the Vista support people
> hand me back to the XBox people...although they tried pretty hard. The
> Vista support people are saying they need to recreate the problem in
> their lab and get back to me...ya right.
>
> I'm at a loss:confused:..please help.
>
>
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  #3  
Old 03-04-2008
FirstBee
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


Thanks for the suggestion...but no luck. I disabled IPv6, nothing
changed, then I disabled auto tuning, again, still my network
performance barely registered on the graph in the network tuning tool in
Media Center.

Although I have updated my router (linksys BEFSR81) with the latest
firmware, the router itself is about 5 years old. Do you think the
problem may lie with it?? Access to the internet by all machines on the
network, including the XBox, is through the router and no visible
degredation in performance when just simply downloading from internet.
Performance issues only exist when the Xbox tries to communicate with
the Vista machine.


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Old 03-04-2008
RalfG
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre

The router could be part of the problem. It might not be fully compatible
even with updated firmware. Check that your model is in the router
compatibility list. If it is listed as compatible it might require a
specific firmware version. An Xbox 360 connected through my Dlink router was
accessible to computers on the network (detected as an extender by MCE) but
it couldn't access the internet. I had to install an older firmware version
in the router to get full compatibility with the Xbox. Ports are being
automatically handled by UPNP now whereas with the non-compatible firmwares
no amount of manual port forwarding would enable the Xbox to access the
internet.

"FirstBee" <FirstBee.379l0l@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the suggestion...but no luck. I disabled IPv6, nothing
> changed, then I disabled auto tuning, again, still my network
> performance barely registered on the graph in the network tuning tool in
> Media Center.
>
> Although I have updated my router (linksys BEFSR81) with the latest
> firmware, the router itself is about 5 years old. Do you think the
> problem may lie with it?? Access to the internet by all machines on the
> network, including the XBox, is through the router and no visible
> degredation in performance when just simply downloading from internet.
> Performance issues only exist when the Xbox tries to communicate with
> the Vista machine.
>
>
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Old 06-04-2008
FirstBee
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


So I went out and blew $150 on Linksys's WRT330N router. Nice router,
but it didn't fix my problem. Communication between the XBOX and Vista
Machine is still unbearably slow.


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Old 06-04-2008
FirstBee
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


So I went out and blew $150 on Linksys's WRT330N router. Nice router,
but it didn't fix my problem. Communication between the XBOX and Vista
Machine is still unbearably slow. Still running a wired connection to
both the Xbox and Vista machine. Any help/suggestion to fix would be
appreciated. I'm at a loss?!!


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  #7  
Old 06-04-2008
RalfG
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre

The old router wasn't on this list of Xbox 360 compatible routers and
neither is the new one but supposedly any router that is Vista compatible
should be compatible with Xbox 360 also.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/co.../equipment.htm

If the problem isn't hardware then something (software, settings) on the
computer or the Xbox (extender software?) is most likely impeding network
communications between the Xbox and PC. The ports you listed earlier as
being opened don't match the ports listed as required for media extender use
here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../firewall.mspx

The same ports need to be opened in both software firewalls and the router.
If you had a cross-over cable you could connect the Xbox directly to the PC
and set up/test port forwarding on that first. With some 3rd party
firewalls, just turning the firewall off does not open the ports you need to
use. Once the communications link to the computer is known to work properly
setting up the router configuration should be easier.


"FirstBee" <FirstBee.37f7sh@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> So I went out and blew $150 on Linksys's WRT330N router. Nice router,
> but it didn't fix my problem. Communication between the XBOX and Vista
> Machine is still unbearably slow.
>
>
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  #8  
Old 07-04-2008
jalb
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


I HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE A NETGEAR WIRELESS ROUTER,,IM USING VISTA x64 BTW


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  #9  
Old 08-04-2008
FirstBee
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


The router I bought works with Vista..so says the package.

The ports I listed earlier were the ports that the XBox stated needed
to be opened. I have since opened all the additional ports listed at
the link you provided. Didn't change anything.

The only firewall I am using is Windows Firewall which is suppose to be
authomatically setup to allow a media center extender to work once
installed. Despite this, in Windows Firewall I still opened each of the
ports I forwarded in the router. Didn't change anything.

HELP!!!!!


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  #10  
Old 08-04-2008
jalb
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


i worked on this problem for 6 hours one day dude NOTHING WORKS,,the
thing i dont understand is i have all my bars on the graph and it is
still slow for me


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  #11  
Old 13-05-2008
Jethell
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


I am having the exact same problems, and have tried most of the same
things with no success. The only thing that makes it even worse is... I
just set up my 360 yesterday and it worked perfect! Now today it barely
registers. I have tried resetting everything, loaded a restore point to
a program I installed while I was testing MC.

Still nothing seems to work, internet is fine on both the vista home
prem x64 and the 360.

Anyone out there know something????

Thank you!


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  #12  
Old 13-05-2008
Jethell
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


Well I figured out my problem.... hopefully it works for anyone else
that has the problem too.

If you have an Nvidia chipset and installed (NAM) Network Access
Management or something.... uninstall it.
After I got rid of it it worked fine.


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  #13  
Old 13-05-2008
FirstBee
 
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Re: Slow network performance with Media Centre


Well all...found the solution...

It does seem to be an issue with NVidia chips and drivers. I have the
680i SLI motherboard with onboard ethernet ports. NVidia just issued a
new driver update for the chipset. I installed it and miraculously I
now have the performance I expected...full green bars.


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