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| Vista/XP Networking Fustrations has become Vista/XP Networking HEL
I gotta say, no computer problem has ever caused me this much grief or caused me to cuss so much in my life, so hopefully someone can help me... I have been trying for the good part of a month to set up a network between ONE Vista machine and ONE XP Machine, and have been told to go screw myself by my Vista machine at every turn, everyday... I've realized I posted about this awhile ago but here is my problem again in a nutshell: *The XP Machine cannot see the Vista Machine, ever. *The Vista Machine will occassionally show the XP machine in the Network Folder, about 25% of the time. *I am sometimes able to access the XP machine using \\ip address. When this is successful, sometimes I am able to actually read/write to folders, other times access is denied. *If the XP machine shows up in the Network Folder, it is almost guaranteed that I won't be able to access it via \\ip address. If the XP machine does not show up in the Network forlder, then I have a better chance of using \\ip address. *The XP machine always comes out in the Network Map. I have a Linksys WRT350N wireless router. The Vista box is connected with a cable, and the XP brick is connected wirelessly. I have determined the following, beyond a doubt: *The problem lies with the Vista box and not the XP brick because I have a Archos portable media player (its OS is Linux based I believe), and both the player and the brick can see each other and interact just fine. *It maybe a problem with NetBios Over TCP/IP, as ipconfig.txt says it is disabled on all my adapters (even thoe it is clearly enabled in WINS tab). *It maybe a problem with the NT Browser Service, as browstat.txt says browsing is not active on the domain, I cannot find it in the service list. (I've tried everything in PChuck articles and all Mick Murphy suggestions, the standard stuff I guess) (the output of the ipconfig.txt and browstat.txt is included in a reply) Thanks in advance for any help, sorry if I sound rude. :P |
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| RE: Vista/XP Networking Fustrations has become Vista/XP Networking HEL Sorry don't know why it posted twice, the window crashed and I thought I had to resend the post. Anyway, here is my ipconfig.txt and browstat.txt: Vista box is Cybertron, MOTHERSCOMPUTER is the XP brick: PHOENIX311 is the workgroup for both puters. ipconfig.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Cybertron Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-9A-DA-25 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::85bf:6e7d:c2ec:fe06%8(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e66:3050:107d:b4e0:47b7(Preferred) Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3050:107d:b4e0:47b7%9(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : :: NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{6728EBF0-8BB6-42F3-B54F-83908CBC704C} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.101%14(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled ipconfig.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- browstat.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status for domain PHOENIX311 on transport \Device\Nbf_{6728EBF0-8BB6-42F3-B54F-83908CBC704C} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: MOTHERSCOMPUTER Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build of browser master: 53 Unable to determine server information for browser master: 59 1 backup servers retrieved from master MOTHERSCOMPUTER \\MOTHERSCOMPUTER Unable to retrieve server list from MOTHERSCOMPUTER: 59 Status for domain PHOENIX311 on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{A51D56CB-3B7D-44EC-B690-651382409BE0} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain PHOENIX311 on transport \Device\Nbf_{D1DB7276-C4FE-4CD4-BC66-8263B9A9BA24} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. browstat.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks again! |
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| Re: Vista/XP Networking Fustrations has become Vista/XP Networking HEL
You should run ipconfig /all separately on the XP computer. Errors here: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-9A-DA-25 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::85bf:6e7d:c2ec:fe06%8(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101(Preferred) ***** cannot communicate with 192.168.0.xxx Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1****** >>> there's only one router, which IP does it actually have? DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1****** NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled and here: Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{6728EBF0-8BB6-42F3-B54F-83908CBC704C} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.101%14(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 ************** same situation as above NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled There is no domain in a peer to peer lan, just a workgroup which should be the same on all computers. Browsing is integral provided there is actual communication between the computers and one or the other will become the master browser... it doesn't really matter which. First you have to fix the TCP/IP configuration so that gateway, DHCP and DNS servers are all the same address. Devices on different subnets should not be able to communicate with each other.. i.e. 192.168.1.x doesn't talk to 192.168.0.x. Either set the router's IP to be 192.168.1.1 or change your TCP/IP settings in the computers to match what it really is (DHCP and DNS). Check that DNS relay is enabled in the router. Neither computer can have the same IP as the router. If ICS happens to be activated on either computer turn it off. Third party software firewalls can block LAN communications. If you're using any it may help to disable or uninstall the firewall before configuring your LAN. Once the LAN is working properly you can reinstall the firewall and debug any networking problems it creates. "Sid" <Sid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E7BE0810-4D14-4C58-BA8A-6144D5A612AB@microsoft.com... > > Sorry don't know why it posted twice, the window crashed and I thought I > had > to resend the post. Anyway, here is my ipconfig.txt and browstat.txt: > > Vista box is Cybertron, MOTHERSCOMPUTER is the XP brick: PHOENIX311 is the > workgroup for both puters. > > ipconfig.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Cybertron > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network > Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-9A-DA-25 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : > fe80::85bf:6e7d:c2ec:fe06%8(Preferred) > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101(Preferred) > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : > 2001:0:4137:9e66:3050:107d:b4e0:47b7(Preferred) > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : > fe80::3050:107d:b4e0:47b7%9(Preferred) > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : :: > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : > isatap.{6728EBF0-8BB6-42F3-B54F-83908CBC704C} > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : > fe80::5efe:192.168.1.101%14(Preferred) > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > ipconfig.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > browstat.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status for domain PHOENIX311 on transport > \Device\Nbf_{6728EBF0-8BB6-42F3-B54F-83908CBC704C} > Browsing is active on domain. > Master browser name is: MOTHERSCOMPUTER > Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build > of browser master: 53 > Unable to determine server information for browser master: 59 > 1 backup servers retrieved from master MOTHERSCOMPUTER > \\MOTHERSCOMPUTER > Unable to retrieve server list from MOTHERSCOMPUTER: 59 > > > Status for domain PHOENIX311 on transport > \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{A51D56CB-3B7D-44EC-B690-651382409BE0} > Browsing is NOT active on domain. > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. > > > Status for domain PHOENIX311 on transport > \Device\Nbf_{D1DB7276-C4FE-4CD4-BC66-8263B9A9BA24} > Browsing is NOT active on domain. > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. > browstat.txt----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks again! |
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| Re: Vista/XP Networking Fustrations has become Vista/XP Networking
RalfG, Thanks. I set the router ip to 192.168.1.1 and the XP computer is set to static ip 192.168.1.102. The XP Machine can now see the Vista puter, but the Vista Machine still cannot see the XP brick in the Network Folder, although it does show up in the Network Map. I can also ping both puters both ways and access each computers files both ways. I know its possible to see the XP brick in the Network Folder because, even with the errors you pointed out, it happens occasionally, now not being one of those better moments. Why does it only work sometimes? :| Also I tried looking for a DNS relay option in the routers settings, but couldn't find anything, is there anything equivalent to this on a Linksys WRT350N? Netbios over TCP/Ip is still disabled. :( I have Bitdefender on the Vista machine and Zone Alarm on the XP machine, both are disabled, as are both Windows firewalls. Here are the ipconfigs for both machines: Vista-------------------------------------------- Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Cybertron Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-5A-5F-6E-B7 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-9A-DA-25 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Vista-------------------------------------------- XP----------------------------------------------- Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MothersComputer Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-73-17-A6 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-N PCI Adapter WMP300N Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-A6-2B-1D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 192.168.0.1 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:01:30 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:01:30 PM XP----------------------------------------------- I have no idea why the vista box ahs so many adapters, I only see the bluetooth and intel adapters in the network connections :| Thanks again. |
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| Re: Vista/XP Networking Fustrations has become Vista/XP Networking
MothersComputer still has one DNS entry pointing to 192.168.0.1 but that shouldn't block anything as there is nothing at that address. In your Vista computer the network connection type should be set to Private (Network and Sharing Center-Customize). I looked through the manual for the router online and also didn't see anything pertaining to DNS relaying. It will either handle that as expected if you set TCP/IP in the computers to Obtain DNS servers automatically, or if you find you cannot surf enter the DNS server addresses manually. They are the same as the ones you entered into the router's internet setup page (IPs provided by your ISP in any case). Sometimes software firewalls block netbios broadcasts. It can be by design, which usually means there is a setting somewhere to allow it, or it can be an unwanted side effect of how the firewall detects intrusions. Some firewalls do it consistently but it can also be a very intermittent symptom. Disabling the firewall doesn't always equate to turning it off completely and some things that were blocked while it was running may remain blocked after the firewall is disabled. This is where uninstalling the firewall can sometimes become necessary. You might be able to work around it by opening ports 137, 138, 139 in the safe or trusted zones ONLY. "Sid" <Sid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AC13B9CB-904E-483F-AB59-DE9A5C473622@microsoft.com... > RalfG, > > Thanks. I set the router ip to 192.168.1.1 and the XP computer is set to > static ip 192.168.1.102. > > The XP Machine can now see the Vista puter, but the Vista Machine still > cannot see the XP brick in the Network Folder, although it does show up in > the Network Map. I can also ping both puters both ways and access each > computers files both ways. > > I know its possible to see the XP brick in the Network Folder because, > even > with the errors you pointed out, it happens occasionally, now not being > one > of those better moments. Why does it only work sometimes? :| > > Also I tried looking for a DNS relay option in the routers settings, but > couldn't find anything, is there anything equivalent to this on a Linksys > WRT350N? > > Netbios over TCP/Ip is still disabled. :( > > I have Bitdefender on the Vista machine and Zone Alarm on the XP machine, > both are disabled, as are both Windows firewalls. > > Here are the ipconfigs for both machines: > > Vista-------------------------------------------- > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Cybertron > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area > Network) > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-5A-5F-6E-B7 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network > Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-9A-DA-25 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101(Preferred) > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2 > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > Vista-------------------------------------------- > > > XP----------------------------------------------- > > Windows IP Configuration > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MothersComputer > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family > Fast > Ethernet NIC > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-73-17-A6 > > > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-N PCI Adapter > WMP300N > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-A6-2B-1D > > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > > 192.168.0.1 > > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 15, 2008 > 1:01:30 > PM > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:01:30 > PM > XP----------------------------------------------- > > I have no idea why the vista box ahs so many adapters, I only see the > bluetooth and intel adapters in the network connections :| > > Thanks again. > > |
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