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| I've fixed the internet connection problem
If you've been experiencing internet dropping, hanging, ect. on Vista, you're not alone. I was ready to throw the thing in the trash. I finally fixed it by going to the Network and Sharing center, click the View Status on the connection, click Properties and then uncheck the QoS Packet Scheduler, the Internet Protocol Version 6, and both Link Layer Topology choices. Then click OK, restart and enjoy your surfing! Hope this helps. Let me know. |
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Thank you for the information. |
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Thanks Steve. I spent 2 hours looking around but missed your post and just put up one myself. Then saw yours and have given it a try. Will let you know. Sure know how you felt. |
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Sure enough worked like a charm. I've been fighting that for over 2 months restarting 15-20 times a day to reconnect. Steve if you are ever in San Antonio, Texas Let me know. I owe you a dinner. texaspi@texas.net |
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Well, I'm glad it worked for you too. It so much nicer to just surf along and not be bothered with the dropped connection every 5-10 minutes, then wait for it to connect again, which took my machine 1-3 minutes everytime. I dealt with it for about 2 months also before I found the fix. Darn, I was just in San Antonio on my way back to Denver from Rockport Texas. I could have used that dinner! Oh well next time. Take care. Steve |
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Hello. I manage the QoS team in core Windows networking and would like to better understand your scenairo. Specifically, the QoS Packet Scheduler should have nothing to do with this, as it will only ever be in the data path when a QoS flow exists. The only way a QoS flow would exist is if you're using an application which calls specific QoS APIs. Can you please describe the complete end-to-end scenario? What applications are you using? When you say "connection reset" what exactly does that mean? How do you realize that it's been reset (what do you see, or what steps do you take to come to this conclusion)? I'd love to work with folks who are experiencing this issue to figure out if there is a bug somewhere in the stack. |
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Hello Gabe, I unchecked that Qos Packet Scheduler because I didn't know what it was nor did I think I needed it. The trouble I and I'm sure others have and have had with Vista is a dropped internet connection every 5 minutes or so. I believe it's a communication thing between the OS and the ISP. I'm not sure what is happening. I travel alot, and in some hotels I have no trouble at all, in some I get (got) the dropped connection every five minutes or so, with it trying to reconnect and taking 3-4 minutes to identify the ISP and then the internet, or things like not being able to access HTTPS sites. There's definitely a bug in Vista concerning this, and I'm disappointed MS didn't find or work this out beforehand. I wish I wasn't using Vista as it's a recurring problem, although I've worked around it best I could. Good luck. |
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Thanks for the feedback Steve. I appreciate your commitment to helping find the root cause of the problem. We have a number of built-in tracing solutions which can help isolate the problem. I am willing to work with you to get us the necessary information to identify whether this issue is known and if a fix will be ready for a service pack release, or if this is a new issue. I hear your frustration, especially since I do a lot of traveling myself. If you're committed to a resolution, let's work together on reproducing the problem and capturing the necessary logs/tracing. First, some questions: 1) Is this on a wired or wireless network (or both). If wireless, are you associating with the BSSID successfully, or is network association problematic? 2) After connecting to the network (after IP address is received), when prompted, are you identifying the network as 'Public', 'Home', or 'Work' 3) Being you mentioned a hotel, do you have to open a web browser to gain connectivity, i.e. is this a "captive portal" type of solution where you must acknowledge terms and/or pay before Internet access is granted? 4) Is this "captive portal" through the browser what takes a long time? The more details you can provide me, the better I'll be able to help. Thanks! |
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Gabe, I would be happy to add my two cents too if it would help. I think I covered what I am using in the post "dropping internet connection" 5/3/2007 pst. I used Steve's suggestions and while it has not fixed my problem 100%, I went from 20+ disconnects a day to 3 or 4, which I can live with. Would love to go to 0 a day if you can figure it out. |
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Thanks for the offer Bob. How about it folks? Any takers? Can anyone reproduce this problem? I'd love to work with you to isolate the issue. I would love to have some of the questions I asked in my previous response answered. As I mentioned, I can't immagine how the QoS Packet Scheduler (pacer.sys) is actually causing a problem here. I'm also very surprised to hear that disabling it did something useful for you. |
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Gabe, I turned off (unchecked) the four protocols that Steve said would help: the QoS Packet Scheduler, the Internet Protocol Version 6, and both Link Layer Topology choices. I could turn one or all back on and see if it makes a difference. Since I am still experiencing the problem I could tell the difference I think if the occurrences go from 4-6 times a day back up to 30. I think that it is significant that I have not solved the problem but just experience it lots less frequently. As to the rest of your questions, since I am hardwired to the DSL router and don't use wireless, I am connected all the time (except when Vista drops the connection) I am running Vista Ultra and there are lots of logs. I think I have most turned on. I don't have the expertise to decipher the info though. I know when the problem occurs, sometimes to within a couple of minutes. I could send you dumps or you could connect to my computer and look around. As far as reproducing the problem. If I could make it stop then I could probably make it happen but it still seems to happen on its own. I can't correlate it to any event. It occurs when I pick up mail, when I am using just about any program and when the computer is just sitting unused. I usually discover it long before the network icon in the tray shows the connection has been dropped. In fact, as I said in my post, if I try to enable the network connection, I really lock up Vista, to the point that sometimes I have to pull the power to unlock it. |
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Well, I've followed this thread for nearly a month, and thought I would toss my findings in the mix. I tried unchecking all four as Steve suggested. No help. Initially I put back the 2 LLt selections, because I couldn't see the units on my network. Then I put back the others. I have seen no improvement at all. Running Home Premium with a Linksys router and cable modem. The XP computer on my network has no problems. Also had an older one still running Me, and it was running okay, although I have it offline now. Unlike Bob, I have never locked my machine up. But I do discover the problem before the icon shows it. Simply Diagnose and Repair, and then Reset the Local Connection. I let it send the report to MS each time; but so far, nothing has been done that I can tell. |
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I recently purchased a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop for my daughters Grad and cannot maintain a connection with my Linksys WRT54G for more than a few minutes. Network sharing center shows the connection disappearing and then it retries to connect. Sometimes it's successful, other times I have to boot. The best minds at Dell support have been unable to help in any way, and apparently because the 30 days have elapsed since the purchase (27 of which the laptop was gift-wrapped and hidden in my closet), Dell refuses to consider my offer to exchange my Vista Home Premium license for a Windows XP license Please let me know what I can do to help trace this problem. I was about to install a copy of Windows XP Pro that I have in an attempt to fix the laptop, but I would prefer to get the Vista problem solved. |
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I had this problem that was causing my router and cable modem to lose it's internet connection on a repeated basis. I made this change as suggested and it seems to have paid off. One curious thing - this is the new Belkin N router, so Vista and it's networking seems to be an issue for hardware manufacturers. But I'm really glad some folks found the fix!!!! Microsoft I usually like the products but this kind of crazy. |
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It would be interesting to find out what everyone is using that may cause the problem. When I made Steveb's fix it improved my disconnects from 20 a day to just a few (3 or 4) but the problem has not gone away completely. I am using Vista Ultimate on a Dell XPS 410 computer, my DSL modem/router is 2wire supplied by AT&T, and the only software on my computer besides the Windows stuff initially was Norton Antivirus installed by Dell. Sometimes the computer will sit for hours and stay connected and other times it drops the connection in just a few minutes. Doesn't seem to matter what programs are open or what is going on. Most times I am not using it and only Internet Explorer will be open. When I try to go to an address the connection is dead. My thoughts are that there is some process or combination of processes that is causing the problem. That would be why it occurs right after boot-up sometimes. Either Norton or Dell or Windows calling home or some Windows process like the indexing that starts running and zaps the connection. AT&T did say they were working on a Vista compatable driver that would be ready sometime in June but have not heard anything more. |
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