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Old 01-03-2009
ArtieB
 
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Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

I've searched the NG here for solutions to my problem, but haven't
found a solution.

Here's the situation:

- XP desktop- current updates to the OS

- Vista laptop (brand new)

-set up wireless network: can see all of the shared folders on the XP
machine from the Vista laptop, but can only see the Public folder on
the Vista laptop from the XP machine. Several other folders, set up
for sharing on the Vista laptop, can't be seen on the XP machine ("not
accessible- you may not have permission to use this network
resource").

- have tried both public and private settings on the Vista laptop- no
difference

- Both machines are on the same workgroup

- Firewall is not part of the problem: Windows firewall is turned off
on both machines, and problem persists when Kaspersky Internet
Security's firewall is disabled

- user name is the same on both machines

Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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  #2  
Old 01-03-2009
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

Hi
Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
Firewall instructions).
Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and
exceptions are configured correctly.
http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted
Make sure that what you are trying to share in Vista is indeed is sharable.
Some folders for security reason would not share.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"ArtieB" <artieb@email.com> wrote in message
news:pr7jq45bkpgd2vdupotg02o8l8oo575qjr@4ax.com...
> I've searched the NG here for solutions to my problem, but haven't
> found a solution.
>
> Here's the situation:
>
> - XP desktop- current updates to the OS
>
> - Vista laptop (brand new)
>
> -set up wireless network: can see all of the shared folders on the XP
> machine from the Vista laptop, but can only see the Public folder on
> the Vista laptop from the XP machine. Several other folders, set up
> for sharing on the Vista laptop, can't be seen on the XP machine ("not
> accessible- you may not have permission to use this network
> resource").
>
> - have tried both public and private settings on the Vista laptop- no
> difference
>
> - Both machines are on the same workgroup
>
> - Firewall is not part of the problem: Windows firewall is turned off
> on both machines, and problem persists when Kaspersky Internet
> Security's firewall is disabled
>
> - user name is the same on both machines
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.


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Old 01-03-2009
Richard M. Ulrich
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines


"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
> traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
> be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
> on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
> Firewall instructions).
> Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and
> exceptions are configured correctly.


Hi,

I'm having the same problems (still) and found the place in Kaspersky where
I can specify Zone status by IP address as either "Local network",
"Trusted", or "Internet", so this is progress!

Anyway, right now the address of the router shows in the list (that is,
192.168.0.0). Does changing that to Trusted Zone do the trick or do I have
to add the IP address of each computer as assigned by DHCP? Are there any
negative consequences to changing the 0.0 router address to Trusted Zone?

Thanks,
R





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Old 01-03-2009
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

Hi
If there is No way to put in a range, like 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.20, or a
sunbet with wild card like 192.168.0.*
Then you have to list the IPs of all network devices.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

"Richard M. Ulrich" <RichardU@UlrichAssociates.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
> news:etlCU3emJHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
>> traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall
>> should be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP
>> numbers on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd
>> Party Firewall instructions).
>> Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and
>> exceptions are configured correctly.

>
> Hi,
>
> I'm having the same problems (still) and found the place in Kaspersky
> where I can specify Zone status by IP address as either "Local network",
> "Trusted", or "Internet", so this is progress!
>
> Anyway, right now the address of the router shows in the list (that is,
> 192.168.0.0). Does changing that to Trusted Zone do the trick or do I
> have to add the IP address of each computer as assigned by DHCP? Are there
> any negative consequences to changing the 0.0 router address to Trusted
> Zone?
>
> Thanks,
> R
>
>
>
>
>


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Old 06-03-2009
ArtieB
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

None of these seem to be the problem. I have NO problem accessing the
"Public" files on the Vista laptop; only accessing the other
drives/files, which are set to be shared. Any thoughts?

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:44:47 -0500, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
<jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote:

>Hi
>Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
>traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
>be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
>on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
>Firewall instructions).
>Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and
>exceptions are configured correctly.
>http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted
>Make sure that what you are trying to share in Vista is indeed is sharable.
>Some folders for security reason would not share.
>Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>Windows XP File Sharing -
>http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
>Printer Sharing XP -
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
>Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
>"ArtieB" <artieb@email.com> wrote in message
>news:pr7jq45bkpgd2vdupotg02o8l8oo575qjr@4ax.com...
>> I've searched the NG here for solutions to my problem, but haven't
>> found a solution.
>>
>> Here's the situation:
>>
>> - XP desktop- current updates to the OS
>>
>> - Vista laptop (brand new)
>>
>> -set up wireless network: can see all of the shared folders on the XP
>> machine from the Vista laptop, but can only see the Public folder on
>> the Vista laptop from the XP machine. Several other folders, set up
>> for sharing on the Vista laptop, can't be seen on the XP machine ("not
>> accessible- you may not have permission to use this network
>> resource").
>>
>> - have tried both public and private settings on the Vista laptop- no
>> difference
>>
>> - Both machines are on the same workgroup
>>
>> - Firewall is not part of the problem: Windows firewall is turned off
>> on both machines, and problem persists when Kaspersky Internet
>> Security's firewall is disabled
>>
>> - user name is the same on both machines
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks.


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  #6  
Old 06-03-2009
Malke
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

ArtieB wrote:

> None of these seem to be the problem. I have NO problem accessing the
> "Public" files on the Vista laptop; only accessing the other
> drives/files, which are set to be shared. Any thoughts?


I know you said the user name is the same on all machines, but what about
passwords?

Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple
File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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Old 06-03-2009
ArtieB
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

That did it. Thanks much.

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:44:23 -0800, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>ArtieB wrote:
>
>> None of these seem to be the problem. I have NO problem accessing the
>> "Public" files on the Vista laptop; only accessing the other
>> drives/files, which are set to be shared. Any thoughts?

>
>I know you said the user name is the same on all machines, but what about
>passwords?
>
>Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
>to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
>assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
>need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
>PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
>to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
>can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
>
>Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
>http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
>If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple
>File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
>
>Malke


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Old 06-03-2009
Malke
 
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Re: Problems Networking XP and Vista Machines

ArtieB wrote:

> That did it. Thanks much.


Glad to hear it. Thanks for taking the time to let me know.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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