6 attempts and 6 failures to update KB934238

I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as the online
(both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will not install onto my
computer.

Please advise!

Big Bro wrote:
> I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> not install onto my computer.

Did you read about the update?

On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP, some text in
the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English after you install the
..NET Framework 3.0
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238

Particularly:
"Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English version of
Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install the appropriate
language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before you check for updates on the
Windows Update Web site."

?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Big Bro wrote:
> > I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> > the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> > not install onto my computer.
>
> Did you read about the update?
>
> On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP, some text in
> the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English after you install the
> ..NET Framework 3.0
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238
>
> Particularly:
> "Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English version of
> Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install the appropriate
> language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before you check for updates on the
> Windows Update Web site."
>
> ?
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> --
My XP Home is set up for English. I am an English speaking, Red Neck
,Southern -
American, raised in Michigan 35 years. Never learned another language.

Just reinstalled Windows today, and updating it, when all of a sudden this
one update refused to cooperate.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, so if you know Redneck English that
might help.


>

Big Bro wrote:
> I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> not install onto my computer.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Did you read about the update?
>
> On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP,
> some text in the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English
> after you install the ..NET Framework 3.0
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238
>
> Particularly:
> "Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English
> version of Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install
> the appropriate language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before
> you check for updates on the Windows Update Web site."
>
> ?

Big Bro wrote:
> My XP Home is set up for English. I am an English speaking, Red Neck
> ,Southern -
> American, raised in Michigan 35 years. Never learned another
> language.
>
> Just reinstalled Windows today, and updating it, when all of a
> sudden this one update refused to cooperate.
>
> I'm not sure what you're talking about, so if you know Redneck
> English that might help.

Go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Validate, download, install.

Reboot.

Go back to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan for (custom) the
critical and optional updates offered. Don't get hardware drivers from that
site (however) - get hardware drivers from the hardware manufacturer (those
who made each piece of hardware on your machine.)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Big Bro wrote:
> > I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> > the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> > not install onto my computer.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Did you read about the update?
> >
> > On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP,
> > some text in the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English
> > after you install the ..NET Framework 3.0
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238
> >
> > Particularly:
> > "Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English
> > version of Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install
> > the appropriate language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before
> > you check for updates on the Windows Update Web site."
> >
> > ?
>
> Big Bro wrote:
> > My XP Home is set up for English. I am an English speaking, Red Neck
> > ,Southern -
> > American, raised in Michigan 35 years. Never learned another
> > language.
> >
> > Just reinstalled Windows today, and updating it, when all of a
> > sudden this one update refused to cooperate.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you're talking about, so if you know Redneck
> > English that might help.
>
> Go here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> Validate, download, install.
>
> Reboot.
>
> Go back to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan for (custom) the
> critical and optional updates offered. Don't get hardware drivers from that
> site (however) - get hardware drivers from the hardware manufacturer (those
> who made each piece of hardware on your machine.)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
> ---------
Problem has been resolved thank you for your help.

Big Bro wrote:
> I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> not install onto my computer.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Did you read about the update?
>
> On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP,
> some text in the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English
> after you install the ..NET Framework 3.0
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238
>
> Particularly:
> "Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English
> version of Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install
> the appropriate language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before
> you check for updates on the Windows Update Web site."
>
> ?

Big Bro wrote:
> My XP Home is set up for English. I am an English speaking, Red Neck
> ,Southern -
> American, raised in Michigan 35 years. Never learned another
> language.
>
> Just reinstalled Windows today, and updating it, when all of a
> sudden this one update refused to cooperate.
>
> I'm not sure what you're talking about, so if you know Redneck
> English that might help.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Go here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> Validate, download, install.
>
> Reboot.
>
> Go back to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan for
> (custom) the critical and optional updates offered. Don't get
> hardware drivers from that site (however) - get hardware drivers
> from the hardware manufacturer (those who made each piece of
> hardware on your machine.)

Big Bro wrote:
> Problem has been resolved thank you for your help.

Thanks for letting me know.
Glad your issue has been resolved.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Big Bro wrote:
<snip>
> My XP Home is set up for English. I am an English speaking, Red Neck
> ,Southern -
> American, raised in Michigan 35 years. Never learned another language.
>
> Just reinstalled Windows today, and updating it, when all of a sudden this
> one update refused to cooperate.
<snip>

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
installation:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L.ORG http://66.39.69.143/

I had the same problems with this update and could not figure where the non
English ever came into it. I removed the .Net Framework 3.0 using control
panel. I then downloaded and installed .Net Framework 3.5 (file dotnetfx35)
from the miscrsoft download site. For good measure I downloaded and installed
the XPS viewer file (XPESEP XP and Server 2003 32 bit). The KB 934238 failure
to install has not been as issue...sofar. I am assuming something got
corrupted there in one of the updates or in .NET Framework 3.0 making the
update not recognize something it needed to see to install. Whatever it was
it does not seem to be an issue. When I go to Windows updates now, I get the
message that I am up to date, there are no critical updates to download or
install. KB 934238 is a non issue right now.
--
Kokaloman


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Big Bro wrote:
> > I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> > the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> > not install onto my computer.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Did you read about the update?
> >
> > On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP,
> > some text in the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English
> > after you install the ..NET Framework 3.0
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238
> >
> > Particularly:
> > "Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English
> > version of Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install
> > the appropriate language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before
> > you check for updates on the Windows Update Web site."
> >
> > ?
>
> Big Bro wrote:
> > My XP Home is set up for English. I am an English speaking, Red Neck
> > ,Southern -
> > American, raised in Michigan 35 years. Never learned another
> > language.
> >
> > Just reinstalled Windows today, and updating it, when all of a
> > sudden this one update refused to cooperate.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you're talking about, so if you know Redneck
> > English that might help.
>
> Go here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> Validate, download, install.
>
> Reboot.
>
> Go back to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan for (custom) the
> critical and optional updates offered. Don't get hardware drivers from that
> site (however) - get hardware drivers from the hardware manufacturer (those
> who made each piece of hardware on your machine.)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

Bonemender wrote:
> I had the same problems with this update and could not figure where
> the non English ever came into it. I removed the .Net Framework 3.0
> using control panel. I then downloaded and installed .Net Framework
> 3.5 (file dotnetfx35) from the miscrsoft download site. For good
> measure I downloaded and installed the XPS viewer file (XPESEP XP
> and Server 2003 32 bit). The KB 934238 failure to install has not
> been as issue...sofar. I am assuming something got corrupted there
> in one of the updates or in .NET Framework 3.0 making the update
> not recognize something it needed to see to install. Whatever it
> was it does not seem to be an issue. When I go to Windows updates
> now, I get the message that I am up to date, there are no critical
> updates to download or install. KB 934238 is a non issue right now.

AFAIK, .NET Framework 3.5 does not replace .NET Framework 3.0 which did not
replace .NET Framework 2.0 which did not replace .NET Framework 1.1... In
other words - it is entirely plausible that you would not need any .NET
Framework.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

And so now what is your point? KB 934238 not installing is not an issue any
longer so far. What you say is probably true about not needing .NET
Framework of any kind or version, but it was there along with 1and 2. I did
not put it there and did not know when it arrived but it was there before I
could not install KN934238 and the reasons Microsoft gave, which were meager
at best and not helpful did not solve the problem.

Kokaloman


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Bonemender wrote:
> > I had the same problems with this update and could not figure where
> > the non English ever came into it. I removed the .Net Framework 3.0
> > using control panel. I then downloaded and installed .Net Framework
> > 3.5 (file dotnetfx35) from the miscrsoft download site. For good
> > measure I downloaded and installed the XPS viewer file (XPESEP XP
> > and Server 2003 32 bit). The KB 934238 failure to install has not
> > been as issue...sofar. I am assuming something got corrupted there
> > in one of the updates or in .NET Framework 3.0 making the update
> > not recognize something it needed to see to install. Whatever it
> > was it does not seem to be an issue. When I go to Windows updates
> > now, I get the message that I am up to date, there are no critical
> > updates to download or install. KB 934238 is a non issue right now.
>
> AFAIK, .NET Framework 3.5 does not replace .NET Framework 3.0 which did not
> replace .NET Framework 2.0 which did not replace .NET Framework 1.1... In
> other words - it is entirely plausible that you would not need any .NET
> Framework.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

Full Thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...9e6455b5e68be0



Bonemender wrote:
> I had the same problems with this update and could not figure where
> the non English ever came into it. I removed the .Net Framework 3.0
> using control panel. I then downloaded and installed .Net Framework
> 3.5 (file dotnetfx35) from the miscrsoft download site. For good
> measure I downloaded and installed the XPS viewer file (XPESEP XP
> and Server 2003 32 bit). The KB 934238 failure to install has not
> been as issue...sofar. I am assuming something got corrupted there
> in one of the updates or in .NET Framework 3.0 making the update
> not recognize something it needed to see to install. Whatever it
> was it does not seem to be an issue. When I go to Windows updates
> now, I get the message that I am up to date, there are no critical
> updates to download or install. KB 934238 is a non issue right now.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> AFAIK, .NET Framework 3.5 does not replace .NET Framework 3.0 which
> did not replace .NET Framework 2.0 which did not replace .NET
> Framework 1.1... In other words - it is entirely plausible that
> you would not need any .NET Framework.

Bonemender wrote:
> And so now what is your point? KB 934238 not installing is not an
> issue any longer so far. What you say is probably true about not
> needing .NET Framework of any kind or version, but it was there
> along with 1and 2. I did not put it there and did not know when it
> arrived but it was there before I could not install KN934238 and
> the reasons Microsoft gave, which were meager at best and not
> helpful did not solve the problem.

The point of your original post was?

Mine was that you may need 3.0 at some point - whether or not you are now
having problems since you don't need the update you were having trouble with
before. In other words - solving a problem by getting rid of the problem
will only solve the problem for someone if they did not need the entity
giving them a problem. It's not a solution, but an avoidance method. ;-)

The solution to the problem - the one that will work for those who
need/might need .NET Framework 3.0 in the future - was given in the original
thread (link at the top.) I appreciate your contribution to the thread -
and it might help those who definitely do not need .NET 3.0 - but since most
people do not know whether or not they have a need or will have a need for
any of the .NET Framework's - I wanted to be sure to have the entire thread
referenced in your response for those who might search - call it an 'here's
some options' compilation.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Yes! I agree with you. I would prefer to have .NET Framework 3.0, just in
case; but I could not find it on the Microsoft website so that I could
download it & reinstall it. The closest thing I could find was 3.5. Any
suggestions on that?
--
Kokaloman


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Full Thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...9e6455b5e68be0
>
>
>
> Bonemender wrote:
> > I had the same problems with this update and could not figure where
> > the non English ever came into it. I removed the .Net Framework 3.0
> > using control panel. I then downloaded and installed .Net Framework
> > 3.5 (file dotnetfx35) from the miscrsoft download site. For good
> > measure I downloaded and installed the XPS viewer file (XPESEP XP
> > and Server 2003 32 bit). The KB 934238 failure to install has not
> > been as issue...sofar. I am assuming something got corrupted there
> > in one of the updates or in .NET Framework 3.0 making the update
> > not recognize something it needed to see to install. Whatever it
> > was it does not seem to be an issue. When I go to Windows updates
> > now, I get the message that I am up to date, there are no critical
> > updates to download or install. KB 934238 is a non issue right now.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > AFAIK, .NET Framework 3.5 does not replace .NET Framework 3.0 which
> > did not replace .NET Framework 2.0 which did not replace .NET
> > Framework 1.1... In other words - it is entirely plausible that
> > you would not need any .NET Framework.
>
> Bonemender wrote:
> > And so now what is your point? KB 934238 not installing is not an
> > issue any longer so far. What you say is probably true about not
> > needing .NET Framework of any kind or version, but it was there
> > along with 1and 2. I did not put it there and did not know when it
> > arrived but it was there before I could not install KN934238 and
> > the reasons Microsoft gave, which were meager at best and not
> > helpful did not solve the problem.
>
> The point of your original post was?
>
> Mine was that you may need 3.0 at some point - whether or not you are now
> having problems since you don't need the update you were having trouble with
> before. In other words - solving a problem by getting rid of the problem
> will only solve the problem for someone if they did not need the entity
> giving them a problem. It's not a solution, but an avoidance method. ;-)
>
> The solution to the problem - the one that will work for those who
> need/might need .NET Framework 3.0 in the future - was given in the original
> thread (link at the top.) I appreciate your contribution to the thread -
> and it might help those who definitely do not need .NET 3.0 - but since most
> people do not know whether or not they have a need or will have a need for
> any of the .NET Framework's - I wanted to be sure to have the entire thread
> referenced in your response for those who might search - call it an 'here's
> some options' compilation.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

Full Thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...9e6455b5e68be0



Bonemender wrote:
> I had the same problems with this update and could not figure where
> the non English ever came into it. I removed the .Net Framework 3.0
> using control panel. I then downloaded and installed .Net Framework
> 3.5 (file dotnetfx35) from the miscrsoft download site. For good
> measure I downloaded and installed the XPS viewer file (XPESEP XP
> and Server 2003 32 bit). The KB 934238 failure to install has not
> been as issue...sofar. I am assuming something got corrupted there
> in one of the updates or in .NET Framework 3.0 making the update
> not recognize something it needed to see to install. Whatever it
> was it does not seem to be an issue. When I go to Windows updates
> now, I get the message that I am up to date, there are no critical
> updates to download or install. KB 934238 is a non issue right now.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> AFAIK, .NET Framework 3.5 does not replace .NET Framework 3.0 which
> did not replace .NET Framework 2.0 which did not replace .NET
> Framework 1.1... In other words - it is entirely plausible that
> you would not need any .NET Framework.

Bonemender wrote:
> And so now what is your point? KB 934238 not installing is not an
> issue any longer so far. What you say is probably true about not
> needing .NET Framework of any kind or version, but it was there
> along with 1and 2. I did not put it there and did not know when it
> arrived but it was there before I could not install KN934238 and
> the reasons Microsoft gave, which were meager at best and not
> helpful did not solve the problem.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> The point of your original post was?
>
> Mine was that you may need 3.0 at some point - whether or not you
> are now having problems since you don't need the update you were
> having trouble with before. In other words - solving a problem by
> getting rid of the problem will only solve the problem for someone
> if they did not need the entity giving them a problem. It's not a
> solution, but an avoidance method. ;-)
>
> The solution to the problem - the one that will work for those who
> need/might need .NET Framework 3.0 in the future - was given in the
> original thread (link at the top.) I appreciate your contribution
> to the thread - and it might help those who definitely do not need
> .NET 3.0 - but since most people do not know whether or not they
> have a need or will have a need for any of the .NET Framework's - I
> wanted to be sure to have the entire thread referenced in your
> response for those who might search - call it an 'here's some
> options' compilation.

Bonemender wrote:
> Yes! I agree with you. I would prefer to have .NET Framework 3.0,
> just in case; but I could not find it on the Microsoft website so
> that I could download it & reinstall it. The closest thing I could
> find was 3.5. Any suggestions on that?

Google search for:
where can I download .NET Framework 3.0
http://www.google.com/search?q=where...+Framework+3.0

First hit:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Download that (dotnetfx3setup.exe) and install it for .NET Framework 3.0.
You then should reboot and visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and
scan for (custom) updates - check in optional for .NET updates.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Big Bro" wrote:

>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
> > Big Bro wrote:
> > > I have alowed the updates using the auto update feature as well as
> > > the online (both Custom and Express) to no avail. This update will
> > > not install onto my computer.
> >
> > Did you read about the update?
> >
> > On non-English versions of Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP, some text in
> > the print dialog box unexpectedly appears in English after you install the
> > ..NET Framework 3.0
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934238
> >
> > Particularly:
> > "Note If you installed the .NET Framework 3.0 on a non-English version of
> > Windows Server 2003 or of Windows XP, you must install the appropriate
> > language pack for the .NET Framework 3.0 before you check for updates on the
> > Windows Update Web site."
> >
> > ?
> >
> > --
> > Shenan Stanley
> > MS-MVP
> > --
> > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >
> > --

Hi!

First I've got the same problems/error messanges like the others (error
0x80242006 / KB934238). My question is about the language of my Windows
version (XP Pro x64): I'm using the Multilingual User Interface version for
German and Japanese. So, the language of my system is english, because I've
installed an english program with only a language pack? If my suggestion is
right I try to solve my update problem like Big Bro.
Thanks for help.

Have a nice midwinter celebration.

Hottrod

Hi,

I have the same problem running a german version of XP. I did remove the
language pack and the .net 3.0 framework. This did not help, the update error
is still happening.

I also replaced the pidgen.dll with the original version from the XP
install disk as read somewhere else. Did not help either. The update will
still not install on my computer.

Please advise.

Thanks