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Old 28-01-2009
drtrasr
 
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.net update KB951847

Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what is
needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it install
..net 3.5 etc too?

Thanks

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Old 28-01-2009
JS
 
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Re: .net update KB951847

If .NET 2.0 is the only version "installed" on your PC then
Automatic Updates will only install 2.0 patches.

Optional updates may list other versions of .NET not yet
installed on your PC.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B21DE7D-AB0E-4162-9590-E08F97E6BDEB@microsoft.com...
> Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what is
> needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it
> install
> .net 3.5 etc too?
>
> Thanks



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Old 28-01-2009
drtrasr
 
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Re: .net update KB951847



"JS" wrote:

> If .NET 2.0 is the only version "installed" on your PC then
> Automatic Updates will only install 2.0 patches.
>
> Optional updates may list other versions of .NET not yet
> installed on your PC.
>
> --
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>
> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B21DE7D-AB0E-4162-9590-E08F97E6BDEB@microsoft.com...
> > Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what is
> > needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it
> > install
> > .net 3.5 etc too?
> >
> > Thanks

>
>
>

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Old 28-01-2009
drtrasr
 
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Re: .net update KB951847



"JS" wrote:

> If .NET 2.0 is the only version "installed" on your PC then
> Automatic Updates will only install 2.0 patches.
>
> Optional updates may list other versions of .NET not yet
> installed on your PC.
>
> --
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>
> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B21DE7D-AB0E-4162-9590-E08F97E6BDEB@microsoft.com...
> > Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what is
> > needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it
> > install
> > .net 3.5 etc too?
> >
> > Thanks

>
> I need to be more specific. .net 2.0 is all that is installed on my older laptop with limited free hard drive space. Windows update wants this update installed but it is a huge file. I want to know whether or not it installs only what is needed for .net 2.0 with a limited impact on available capacity or if the whole (almost 300mb) gets installed.


Thanks again.
>

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Old 28-01-2009
JS
 
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Re: .net update KB951847

For clarification the disk space requirements during the installation of a
particular version of .NET is typically much larger than the space consumed
after the installation has completed. This is because of the creation of a
temporary directory for the files required to install .NET. However once the
installation process is in the final stages of completing these temporary
files are deleted. But in the end yes you will use about another 300MB.

NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

SP1 also includes cumulative servicing updates to the .NET Framework 2.0 and
..NET Framework 3.0 subcomponents. Microsoft has also included the NET
Framework 2.0 SP2 as part of 3.5 SP1.

How you can get back some of that lost disk space:
First use Windows 'Disk Cleanup' to create more space on your C: drive.
Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

Next: Empty the Recycle Bin.

If you recently installed Windows XP Service Pack 3:
Look for an odd folder name which is located here
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\cf8ec753e88561d..........\
Note: the apparent random set of letter and number may vary from my
example above but whatever the name is, it will be more than
600MB in size and can be safely deleted.
You may also see a number of other folders or files located in the:
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\ directory
They also can be deleted.

You can also free up more disk space by reducing
the number of 'System Restore' points:
Select Start/Control Panel/System, then in the System Properties window
click on the System Restore tab.
Next select the drive letter where Windows is installed (usually C:),
Then click on the Setting button
Now in the Drive Settings window move the Disk space usage slider to the
left to reduce the amount of drive space System Restore points will use.
This will remove some of the older restore points and free up some space.

Disable Hibernation and delete hiberfil.sys file (If you have it enabled):
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...-xp-and-vista/
and:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...hibernate.mspx
and: http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/hiberfil-sys-xp.html

If you are using IE7 and then installed SP3 read the info below.
IE7 users will find the folders listed below on their hard drive:
$NtServicePackUninstallIDNMitigationAPIs$
$NtServicePackUninstallNLSDownlevelMapping$
They are needed to uninstall IE7. However, if you installed IE7 and
then installed XP SP3 you can no longer uninstall IE7 and these
folders can also be deleted.

Note: The recommended procedure before installing XP SP3 is to
uninstall IE7, then install XP SP3. Now you still have the ability to
install and uninstall IE7.

Next if you still need more space:
Remove the files used to uninstall updates to Windows
These folders and associated files in these folders are safe to remove,
however once deleted you will no longer be able to un-install a patch or
update that was associated with the deleted folder/files.
I would keep the most recent set (last two months just in case) of folders
and delete the older updates.
As a safety net I burned these folders to a CD before deleting them.
These files are located in the Windows folder and have folder names
like $NtUninstallKBXXXXXX$.
They are hidden folders so enable viewing of hidden files in Windows
Explorer.

Warning: One folder you should not delete is: $hf_mig$
Also See the following web pages on this issue:
http://www.pagestart.com/ntuninstall.html
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm

If you upgraded your PC from Windows 98 to Windows XP.
The $Win98UpdateUninstall$ can be deleted.

You can reduce the size of the Internet Explorer Disk Cache:
How and Why to Clear Your Cache:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...learcache.mspx
Just follow the instructions but instead of increasing the size
(as stated in the article) decrease it.

Finally: Check the Recycle Bin one more time and empty it
if necessary as some of those files you deleted in the steps
mentioned above may find there way into the recycle bin.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C5849B83-0A02-4DCF-992D-1642B7340CA1@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
>> If .NET 2.0 is the only version "installed" on your PC then
>> Automatic Updates will only install 2.0 patches.
>>
>> Optional updates may list other versions of .NET not yet
>> installed on your PC.
>>
>> --
>> JS
>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>
>>
>> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6B21DE7D-AB0E-4162-9590-E08F97E6BDEB@microsoft.com...
>> > Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what
>> > is
>> > needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it
>> > install
>> > .net 3.5 etc too?
>> >
>> > Thanks

>>
>> I need to be more specific. .net 2.0 is all that is installed on my older
>> laptop with limited free hard drive space. Windows update wants this
>> update installed but it is a huge file. I want to know whether or not it
>> installs only what is needed for .net 2.0 with a limited impact on
>> available capacity or if the whole (almost 300mb) gets installed.

>
> Thanks again.
>>



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  #6  
Old 29-01-2009
DougCuk
 
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RE: .net update KB951847


I just updated a Laptop that only had .Net v2 SP1 installed - now it show I
have ALL three versions of .Net installed, v1 v2 and v3.5 totalling several
hundred Meg. So it appears this 248Mb update doesn't just update the
installed version as some responses here imply.

"drtrasr" wrote:

> Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what is
> needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it install
> .net 3.5 etc too?
>
> Thanks

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Old 29-01-2009
Member
 
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Posts: 3
Re: .net update KB951847

I just updated a Laptop that only had .Net v2 SP1 installed - now it shows I
have ALL three versions of .Net installed, v1 v2 and v3.5 totalling several
hundred Meg. So it appears this 248Mb update doesn't just update the
installed version as some responses here imply - it also installs any missing versions.
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Old 29-01-2009
wiliamtell
 
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Re: .net update KB951847

If your machine has software installed that uses .NET 3.5, it will be
offered for download, more and more software is migrating to 3.5.

WT
"DougCuk" <DougCuk.3mqxvb@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I just updated a Laptop that only had .Net v2 SP1 installed - now it
> shows I
> have ALL three versions of .Net installed, v1 v2 and v3.5 totalling
> several
> hundred Meg. So it appears this 248Mb update doesn't just update the
> installed version as some responses here imply - it also installs any
> missing versions.
>
>
> --
> DougCuk
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Old 29-01-2009
Ottmar Freudenberger
 
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Re: .net update KB951847

"wiliamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> schrieb:

> If your machine has software installed that uses .NET 3.5, it will be
> offered for download,


It's "sufficent" to have .NET 2.0 installed to get KB951847 offered.
Depending on which other .NET version (3.0 or even 3.5) has been
installed, the size of the update differs.

> more and more software is migrating to 3.5.


Which is of course, not an accusation for pushing the whole .NET 3.5
Family Update to those having only .NET 2.0 installed *as an important*
update via AU.

YMMV,
Freudi
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  #10  
Old 14-02-2009
Mrs Moose
 
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Re: .net update KB951847

JS,

Thanks you from me as well for all of that info. :-)

"JS" wrote:

> For clarification the disk space requirements during the installation of a
> particular version of .NET is typically much larger than the space consumed
> after the installation has completed. This is because of the creation of a
> temporary directory for the files required to install .NET. However once the
> installation process is in the final stages of completing these temporary
> files are deleted. But in the end yes you will use about another 300MB.
>
> NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> SP1 also includes cumulative servicing updates to the .NET Framework 2.0 and
> ..NET Framework 3.0 subcomponents. Microsoft has also included the NET
> Framework 2.0 SP2 as part of 3.5 SP1.
>
> How you can get back some of that lost disk space:
> First use Windows 'Disk Cleanup' to create more space on your C: drive.
> Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> Next: Empty the Recycle Bin.
>
> If you recently installed Windows XP Service Pack 3:
> Look for an odd folder name which is located here
> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\cf8ec753e88561d..........\
> Note: the apparent random set of letter and number may vary from my
> example above but whatever the name is, it will be more than
> 600MB in size and can be safely deleted.
> You may also see a number of other folders or files located in the:
> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\ directory
> They also can be deleted.
>
> You can also free up more disk space by reducing
> the number of 'System Restore' points:
> Select Start/Control Panel/System, then in the System Properties window
> click on the System Restore tab.
> Next select the drive letter where Windows is installed (usually C:),
> Then click on the Setting button
> Now in the Drive Settings window move the Disk space usage slider to the
> left to reduce the amount of drive space System Restore points will use.
> This will remove some of the older restore points and free up some space.
>
> Disable Hibernation and delete hiberfil.sys file (If you have it enabled):
> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...-xp-and-vista/
> and:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...hibernate.mspx
> and: http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/hiberfil-sys-xp.html
>
> If you are using IE7 and then installed SP3 read the info below.
> IE7 users will find the folders listed below on their hard drive:
> $NtServicePackUninstallIDNMitigationAPIs$
> $NtServicePackUninstallNLSDownlevelMapping$
> They are needed to uninstall IE7. However, if you installed IE7 and
> then installed XP SP3 you can no longer uninstall IE7 and these
> folders can also be deleted.
>
> Note: The recommended procedure before installing XP SP3 is to
> uninstall IE7, then install XP SP3. Now you still have the ability to
> install and uninstall IE7.
>
> Next if you still need more space:
> Remove the files used to uninstall updates to Windows
> These folders and associated files in these folders are safe to remove,
> however once deleted you will no longer be able to un-install a patch or
> update that was associated with the deleted folder/files.
> I would keep the most recent set (last two months just in case) of folders
> and delete the older updates.
> As a safety net I burned these folders to a CD before deleting them.
> These files are located in the Windows folder and have folder names
> like $NtUninstallKBXXXXXX$.
> They are hidden folders so enable viewing of hidden files in Windows
> Explorer.
>
> Warning: One folder you should not delete is: $hf_mig$
> Also See the following web pages on this issue:
> http://www.pagestart.com/ntuninstall.html
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm
>
> If you upgraded your PC from Windows 98 to Windows XP.
> The $Win98UpdateUninstall$ can be deleted.
>
> You can reduce the size of the Internet Explorer Disk Cache:
> How and Why to Clear Your Cache:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...learcache.mspx
> Just follow the instructions but instead of increasing the size
> (as stated in the article) decrease it.
>
> Finally: Check the Recycle Bin one more time and empty it
> if necessary as some of those files you deleted in the steps
> mentioned above may find there way into the recycle bin.
>
> --
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>
> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C5849B83-0A02-4DCF-992D-1642B7340CA1@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "JS" wrote:
> >
> >> If .NET 2.0 is the only version "installed" on your PC then
> >> Automatic Updates will only install 2.0 patches.
> >>
> >> Optional updates may list other versions of .NET not yet
> >> installed on your PC.
> >>
> >> --
> >> JS
> >> http://www.pagestart.com
> >>
> >>
> >> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6B21DE7D-AB0E-4162-9590-E08F97E6BDEB@microsoft.com...
> >> > Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only what
> >> > is
> >> > needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it
> >> > install
> >> > .net 3.5 etc too?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >> I need to be more specific. .net 2.0 is all that is installed on my older
> >> laptop with limited free hard drive space. Windows update wants this
> >> update installed but it is a huge file. I want to know whether or not it
> >> installs only what is needed for .net 2.0 with a limited impact on
> >> available capacity or if the whole (almost 300mb) gets installed.

> >
> > Thanks again.
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 14-02-2009
JS
 
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Re: .net update KB951847

You're welcome.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Mrs Moose" <MrsMoose@MrMoose.com> wrote in message
news:AA8B8EE9-A7A6-41B5-AFDF-D48DC1D72E1A@microsoft.com...
> JS,
>
> Thanks you from me as well for all of that info. :-)
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
>> For clarification the disk space requirements during the installation of
>> a
>> particular version of .NET is typically much larger than the space
>> consumed
>> after the installation has completed. This is because of the creation of
>> a
>> temporary directory for the files required to install .NET. However once
>> the
>> installation process is in the final stages of completing these temporary
>> files are deleted. But in the end yes you will use about another 300MB.
>>
>> NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>> SP1 also includes cumulative servicing updates to the .NET Framework 2.0
>> and
>> ..NET Framework 3.0 subcomponents. Microsoft has also included the NET
>> Framework 2.0 SP2 as part of 3.5 SP1.
>>
>> How you can get back some of that lost disk space:
>> First use Windows 'Disk Cleanup' to create more space on your C: drive.
>> Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>>
>> Next: Empty the Recycle Bin.
>>
>> If you recently installed Windows XP Service Pack 3:
>> Look for an odd folder name which is located here
>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\cf8ec753e88561d..........\
>> Note: the apparent random set of letter and number may vary from my
>> example above but whatever the name is, it will be more than
>> 600MB in size and can be safely deleted.
>> You may also see a number of other folders or files located in the:
>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\ directory
>> They also can be deleted.
>>
>> You can also free up more disk space by reducing
>> the number of 'System Restore' points:
>> Select Start/Control Panel/System, then in the System Properties window
>> click on the System Restore tab.
>> Next select the drive letter where Windows is installed (usually C:),
>> Then click on the Setting button
>> Now in the Drive Settings window move the Disk space usage slider to the
>> left to reduce the amount of drive space System Restore points will use.
>> This will remove some of the older restore points and free up some space.
>>
>> Disable Hibernation and delete hiberfil.sys file (If you have it
>> enabled):
>> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...-xp-and-vista/
>> and:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...hibernate.mspx
>> and: http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/hiberfil-sys-xp.html
>>
>> If you are using IE7 and then installed SP3 read the info below.
>> IE7 users will find the folders listed below on their hard drive:
>> $NtServicePackUninstallIDNMitigationAPIs$
>> $NtServicePackUninstallNLSDownlevelMapping$
>> They are needed to uninstall IE7. However, if you installed IE7 and
>> then installed XP SP3 you can no longer uninstall IE7 and these
>> folders can also be deleted.
>>
>> Note: The recommended procedure before installing XP SP3 is to
>> uninstall IE7, then install XP SP3. Now you still have the ability to
>> install and uninstall IE7.
>>
>> Next if you still need more space:
>> Remove the files used to uninstall updates to Windows
>> These folders and associated files in these folders are safe to remove,
>> however once deleted you will no longer be able to un-install a patch or
>> update that was associated with the deleted folder/files.
>> I would keep the most recent set (last two months just in case) of
>> folders
>> and delete the older updates.
>> As a safety net I burned these folders to a CD before deleting them.
>> These files are located in the Windows folder and have folder names
>> like $NtUninstallKBXXXXXX$.
>> They are hidden folders so enable viewing of hidden files in Windows
>> Explorer.
>>
>> Warning: One folder you should not delete is: $hf_mig$
>> Also See the following web pages on this issue:
>> http://www.pagestart.com/ntuninstall.html
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm
>>
>> If you upgraded your PC from Windows 98 to Windows XP.
>> The $Win98UpdateUninstall$ can be deleted.
>>
>> You can reduce the size of the Internet Explorer Disk Cache:
>> How and Why to Clear Your Cache:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...learcache.mspx
>> Just follow the instructions but instead of increasing the size
>> (as stated in the article) decrease it.
>>
>> Finally: Check the Recycle Bin one more time and empty it
>> if necessary as some of those files you deleted in the steps
>> mentioned above may find there way into the recycle bin.
>>
>> --
>> JS
>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>
>>
>> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C5849B83-0A02-4DCF-992D-1642B7340CA1@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "JS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If .NET 2.0 is the only version "installed" on your PC then
>> >> Automatic Updates will only install 2.0 patches.
>> >>
>> >> Optional updates may list other versions of .NET not yet
>> >> installed on your PC.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> JS
>> >> http://www.pagestart.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "drtrasr" <drtrasr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:6B21DE7D-AB0E-4162-9590-E08F97E6BDEB@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Does anyone know whether this update automatically installs only
>> >> > what
>> >> > is
>> >> > needed for .net 2 if that is the only version being used? Or does it
>> >> > install
>> >> > .net 3.5 etc too?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >> I need to be more specific. .net 2.0 is all that is installed on my
>> >> older
>> >> laptop with limited free hard drive space. Windows update wants this
>> >> update installed but it is a huge file. I want to know whether or not
>> >> it
>> >> installs only what is needed for .net 2.0 with a limited impact on
>> >> available capacity or if the whole (almost 300mb) gets installed.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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