ADPREP /forestprep failure - directory service busy

[MWave6@gmail.com]

Hi Morgan,

Thanks, I'll follow these steps as well.

Is it also a good indicator that the Schema Version in the registry is
listed as level 31? Specifically, this is contained on DCs as:

\HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTDS\Parameters\Schema Version

Will keep you posted and thanks for all of your good advice!


-Tom W.


On Jun 23, 6:10 am, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> < Where does one go to verify these items?>
>
> {Morgan}:
>
> You can use Adsiedit.msc to view these objects and their values, which is
> included in support tools. You can download it at or install it from
> installation disk 1 :
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d=6EC50B78-8BE....
> B3BE-4E7AC4F0912D&displaylang=en
>
> You can also simply check the schema version by using the Adsiedit.exe
> utility or the Ldp.exe utility. You can view the objectVersion attribute in
> the properties of the cn=schema,cn=configuration,dc=<domain> partition. The
> value of the objectVersion attribute are in decimal.
>
> Schema Version ObjectVersion values and corresponding operating system
> support level
>
> o 13=Microsoft Windows 2000
> o 30=Original release version of Microsoft Windows Server 2003 and
> Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
> o 31=Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2
>
> Note: The Adsiedit.exe utility and the Ldp.exe utility are included with
> Windows Server 2003 R2 support tools. To install support tools, run
> Suptools.msi from the \Support\Tools folder on installation disk 1.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Sincerely
> Morgan Che
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

[Morgan che]

Hi,

Yes, you can look at the registry value to check the current Schema Version.

In fact, we have three methods to view Schema version:

1>Registry subkey on a domain controller at :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTDS\Parameters

2> ObjectVersion attribute

You can also check the schema level by using the Adsiedit or the Ldp to
view the objectVersion attribute on the properties of the
cn=schema,cn=configuration,dc=<domain> partition.

Note: The value of the schema version registry subkey and the objectVersion
attribute are in decimal.

Values:

13=Microsoft Windows 2000
30=Original release version of Microsoft Windows Server 2003 and Microsoft
Windows Server 2003 SP1
31=Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2
44=Windows Server 2008

3>Command line

Alternatively, you can simply run Schupgr.exe on the computer you want to
check. You may receive an error message, but the third line does report the
current version number.

Hope this helps. For any update on your side, we are appreciated to been
posted. Thanks.


Sincerely
Morgan Che
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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--->From: MWave6@gmail.com
--->Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->Subject: Re: ADPREP /forestprep failure - directory service busy
--->Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
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--->
--->Hi Morgan,
--->Thanks, I'll follow these steps as well.
--->Is it also a good indicator that the Schema Version in the registry is
--->listed as level 31? Specifically, this is contained on DCs as:
--->\HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTDS\Parameters\Schema Version
--->Will keep you posted and thanks for all of your good advice!
--->-Tom W.
--->On Jun 23, 6:10 am, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
--->wrote:
--->> Hi,
--->>
--->> < Where does one go to verify these items?>
--->>
--->> {Morgan}:
--->>
--->> You can use Adsiedit.msc to view these objects and their values,
which is
--->> included in support tools. You can download it at or install it from
--->> installation disk 1 :
--->>
--->>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d=6EC50B78-8BE...
--->> B3BE-4E7AC4F0912D&displaylang=en
--->>
--->> You can also simply check the schema version by using the Adsiedit.exe
--->> utility or the Ldp.exe utility. You can view the objectVersion
attribute in
--->> the properties of the cn=schema,cn=configuration,dc=<domain>
partition. The
--->> value of the objectVersion attribute are in decimal.
--->>
--->> Schema Version ObjectVersion values and corresponding operating system
--->> support level
--->>
--->> o 13=Microsoft Windows 2000
--->> o 30=Original release version of Microsoft Windows Server 2003 and
--->> Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
--->> o 31=Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2
--->>
--->> Note: The Adsiedit.exe utility and the Ldp.exe utility are included
with
--->> Windows Server 2003 R2 support tools. To install support tools, run
--->> Suptools.msi from the \Support\Tools folder on installation disk 1.
--->>
--->> Hope this helps.
--->>
--->> Sincerely
--->> Morgan Che
--->> Microsoft Online Support
--->> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
--->

[MWave6@gmail.com]

Hi Morgan,

I ran schupgr and got the following response. Did this actually
attempt to upgrade the schema again? Is there risk of potential damage
by the DC attempting to upgrade itself like this?

Also, under what circumstances is it appropriate to use schupgr.exe to
upgrade the schema?


D:\>schupgr
Opened Connection to PC110
SSPI Bind succeeded
Current Schema Version is 31
Upgrading schema to version 31
Schema has already been changed in another DC in this enterprise and
the changes
are made to this DC. Rerun setup to upgrade this DC


Thanks,
Tom W.


On Jun 25, 11:55 pm, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
wrote:

> 3>Command line
>
> Alternatively, you can simply run Schupgr.exe on the computer you want to
> check. You may receive an error message, but the third line does report the
> current version number.

[Morgan che]

Hi,

<Did this actually attempt to upgrade the schema again?>

No, when you running Schupgr.exe, it just reports to you the current schema
version.

Form the output of Schupgr.exe, it indicates the current schema of the
Windows server running this command is Windows server 2003 R2.

<Is there risk of potential damageby the DC attempting to upgrade itself
like this?
under what circumstances is it appropriate to use schupgr.exe to upgrade
the schema?>

Normally, we use 'adprep /forestprep' command to extend schema, and 'adprep
/forestprep' command will use the Schupgr.exe utility to implement schema
additions. However, besides
Upgrading schema, 'adprep /forestprep' also performs other more other 40
operations, such as updating ACL, security descriptors etc, which
Schupgr.exe can't realize.

More information about ' the adprep /forestprep command', please refer to:

Operations that are performed by the Adprep.exe utility when you add a
Windows Server 2003 domain controller to a Windows 2000 domain or forest
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309628/en-us

So, typically, we do not respectively use Schupgr.exe to extend schema.
However, when we upgrade Windows 2000 servers from Bata to RC version, we
use schupgr.exe to update schema version. More information, please refer to:

HOW TO: Upgrade the Schema to Upgrade Domain Controllers to Released
Version of Windows 2000

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240427/en-us

Hope this helps.


Sincerely
Morgan Che
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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--------------------
--->From: MWave6@gmail.com
--->Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->Subject: Re: ADPREP /forestprep failure - directory service busy
--->Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
--->Organization: http://groups.google.com
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microsoft.public.windows.server.migration:3905
--->X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->
--->Hi Morgan,
--->I ran schupgr and got the following response. Did this actually
--->attempt to upgrade the schema again? Is there risk of potential damage
--->by the DC attempting to upgrade itself like this?
--->Also, under what circumstances is it appropriate to use schupgr.exe to
--->upgrade the schema?
--->D:\>schupgr
--->Opened Connection to PC110
--->SSPI Bind succeeded
--->Current Schema Version is 31
--->Upgrading schema to version 31
--->Schema has already been changed in another DC in this enterprise and
--->the changes
---> are made to this DC. Rerun setup to upgrade this DC
--->Thanks,
--->Tom W.
--->On Jun 25, 11:55 pm, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
--->wrote:
--->> 3>Command line
--->>
--->> Alternatively, you can simply run Schupgr.exe on the computer you
want to
--->> check. You may receive an error message, but the third line does
report the
--->> current version number.
--->

[Morgan che]

HI,

How is everything going?

May i know if you have solve this problem? if there is any thing I can
help, please post back.
Sincerely
Morgan Che
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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--------------------
--->From: MWave6@gmail.com
--->Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->Subject: Re: ADPREP /forestprep failure - directory service busy
--->Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
--->Organization: http://groups.google.com
--->Lines: 33
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microsoft.public.windows.server.migration:3905
--->X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->
--->Hi Morgan,
--->I ran schupgr and got the following response. Did this actually
--->attempt to upgrade the schema again? Is there risk of potential damage
--->by the DC attempting to upgrade itself like this?
--->Also, under what circumstances is it appropriate to use schupgr.exe to
--->upgrade the schema?
--->D:\>schupgr
--->Opened Connection to PC110
--->SSPI Bind succeeded
--->Current Schema Version is 31
--->Upgrading schema to version 31
--->Schema has already been changed in another DC in this enterprise and
--->the changes
---> are made to this DC. Rerun setup to upgrade this DC
--->Thanks,
--->Tom W.
--->On Jun 25, 11:55 pm, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
--->wrote:
--->> 3>Command line
--->>
--->> Alternatively, you can simply run Schupgr.exe on the computer you
want to
--->> check. You may receive an error message, but the third line does
report the
--->> current version number.
--->

[MWave6@gmail.com]

Hi Morgan,

Thanks for keeping up!

Actually, all of the forestprep, domainprep, and gpprep steps have
completed properly. I have joined my Windows 2003 Server x64 system to
our domain successfully.

However, I now have a new problem. Several reboots after joining the
domain, the "Network Connections" service will no longer start on this
machine. I can't start it manually, it times out with an error code of
1053. All network interfaces are gone from "My Network Places"
properties.

I've read several articles concerning 3rd-party management drivers. Do
you have any suggestions? I certainly can't go live with this new
server until I am convinced that the OS is reliable.


Thanks Again,
Tom W.


On Jul 1, 11:31 pm, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
wrote:
> HI,
>
> How is everything going?
>
> May i know if you have solve this problem? if there is any thing I can
> help, please post back.
> Sincerely
> Morgan Che
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

[Morgan che]

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

Because we have resolved the original issue, for this new issue, in order
to concentrate fully on each of these issues and provide clarity for others
that may be following here, we ask that you post them as separate threads.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Here, I am also glad to provide my general suggestion here for your
reference:

As for error code '1053', you can read the following articles that would be
helpful to troubleshoot this issue:

You receive an "Error 1053: The service did not respond to the start or
control request in a timely fashion" error message when a service that uses
the local system account tries to start on a Windows Server 2003-based
computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886695/en-us

Event ID 1053 and 1058 appear in the Application log after you upgrade to
Windows 2000 Server or Windows Server 2003 with Active Directory
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883271/en-us

The Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service Hangs While It Is Starting
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307309/en-us

Hope this helps. Have a good day.


Sincerely
Morgan Che
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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--------------------
--->From: MWave6@gmail.com
--->Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->Subject: Re: ADPREP /forestprep failure - directory service busy
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microsoft.public.windows.server.migration:3947
--->X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
--->
--->Hi Morgan,
--->Thanks for keeping up!
--->Actually, all of the forestprep, domainprep, and gpprep steps have
--->completed properly. I have joined my Windows 2003 Server x64 system to
--->our domain successfully.
--->However, I now have a new problem. Several reboots after joining the
--->domain, the "Network Connections" service will no longer start on this
--->machine. I can't start it manually, it times out with an error code of
--->1053. All network interfaces are gone from "My Network Places"
--->properties.
--->I've read several articles concerning 3rd-party management drivers. Do
--->you have any suggestions? I certainly can't go live with this new
--->server until I am convinced that the OS is reliable.
--->Thanks Again,
--->Tom W.
--->On Jul 1, 11:31 pm, v-mor...@online.microsoft.com (Morgan che(MSFT))
--->wrote:
--->> HI,
--->>
--->> How is everything going?
--->>
--->> May i know if you have solve this problem? if there is any thing I can
--->> help, please post back.
--->> Sincerely
--->> Morgan Che
--->> Microsoft Online Support
--->> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
--->