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| DNS Service doesn't start on bootup
doesn't start automatically, but I can log on and start DNS manually. In system events, I see ID 7036 "The DNS Server service entered the stopped state," followed by ID 7023, "The DNS Server service terminated with the following error: The network is not present or not started." Suggestions on where to start? |
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| Re: DNS Service doesn't start on bootup
There's one in the message itself. Is your network present and started? |
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| Re: DNS Service doesn't start on bootup
As Jonathan indicated, it appears that the message you are getting, "...The network is not present or not started," may indicate that the NIC or network services are not starting first, which is required for DNS and other network based services. The 7036 and 7023 eventID#s are generic to any services. We'll need something a little more specific. Do you see any other error messages in any other event logs? |
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| Re: DNS Service doesn't start on bootup
I see some warnings from the network adapter as the link goes down and back up on each port before initializing. This happens prior to other services starting. It's an Intel PRO/1000 PT dual port server adapter configured for teaming. I tried disabling teaming, but DNS still failed to auto-start. |
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How do you know this? Have you checked and tried to eliminate the simple things, such as a bad wire, connection loose, bad switch port, etc? Startup messages from other services appear in the event logs after the successful NIC initialization message. |
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I've tried different cables and different switch ports. I changed some NIC parameters (specified link speed instead of autonegotiate for the individual NICs and disabled 'probes' for the team) and this eliminated all of the NIC error events, but DNS still doesn't auto start. How about drivers? Have you considered disabling the team and see if that is causing it. Apparently something is holding it up. It's difficult to ascertain. |
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Disabling teaming didn't help. However, I just disabled the Intel NIC and installed an old Broadcom NIC and DNS started on reboot, just like it's supposed to. It appears there's something wonky with my Intel NIC or its drivers. Armed with that information, I think I'll continue troubleshooting tomorrow, on company time. |
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That's good to hear you narrowed it down. Let us know how you make out. Dumb question. What kind of switch do you have? Maybe it's not recognizing the team properly if both interfaces are plugged into the same port? |
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| Re: DNS Service doesn't start on bootup
Does that include a service start event for the DNS server service? It may *stop* after the NIC has been initialized, but have you made sure that it doesn't actually *start* until the NIC has been initialized? Check its dependency graph. And read MSKB Q954423, too. |
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This morning I uninstalled the Intel drivers and started over. With the Microsoft driver, each NIC in the PRO/1000 PT Dual adapter works fine as a standalone NIC. I can load the Intel drivers and I'm still good in standalone, but if I team the NICs, DNS fails to start. Then if I remove the team and try to return to standalone, DNS fails on a standalone NIC. The only way I've been able to get it back to working is to uninstall the Intel drivers and start over again. I've repeated this cycle a couple of times. Intel support hasn't been any help so far. Dell 5324. I have an identical NIC in an Exchange server on the same switch with no problems. No DNS role on that one, though. I can, but I don't know what I should be looking for there. (Right now I'm trying to get Intel to fix a broken download link so I can try a driver update.) |
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Maybe there's a delay on the switch side that is causing DNS to hang? Can you check the port settings? Sorry, I can't remember the setting. It's regards tuning the teaming config. Here's Cisco's take on it for their Catalyst series. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...ml#nic_teaming |
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| Re: DNS Service doesn't start on bootup
JB> (Right now I'm trying to get Intel to fix a broken download link JB> so I can try a driver update.) You're going off at tangents somewhat. The basic etiology of this problem is *described in the MSKB article that I pointed you to*. And the answers to the questions that I asked, which you haven't yet provided, are some pretty basic things that you should be looking for, that have nothing to do with driver versions or device configurations. Indeed, you *know* that you can successfully bring up the DNS service with the *current* driver, and with your original device configuration. You said so, after all, in the very first message in this thread. Read the MSKB article, and look for the answers to those questions. |
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The MSKB you posted, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954423, indicates the following: - The server does not have network connectivity. - The network device to which the server is connected takes a longer time to start than the server. Therefore, that was why I was pointing to switch configuration. Cisco claims there is an issue with their Catalyst where the spanning tree algorithm hangs and may intermittently drop connection while it recycles the port. I don't know about the Intel switch Joe has, but it alerts me that the issue *may* reside with the switch. |
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Indeed. But basics first. This could be as simple as a non-existent service dependency, meaning that the two services are starting in parallel. See the second bulleted point that you quoted. A simple, ordinary, race condition, entirely independent of driver versions, device configurations, or switch capabilities, explains the observed behaviour. Hence my "How do you know this?" question asked almost a week ago, and my ensuing questions that remain still unanswered. M. Blizzard is off on extensive tangents, without first properly checking for something basic, straightforward, fairly probable, and fixable with a simple registry tweak. Regarind a registry tweak, are you saying to make DNS dependent on the network services to start first? |
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AF> Regarind a registry tweak, are you saying to make AF> DNS dependent on the network services to start first? Actually, I'm not even saying that, yet. We haven't even progressed that far. I'm saying to check that this is or isn't the problem. (But that is the fix, if it is.) Here are the unanswered questions still outstanding from 2009-12-22: JdeBP> Does that include a service start event for the DNS JdeBP> server service? It may *stop* after the NIC has been JdeBP> initialized, but have you made sure that it doesn't JdeBP> actually *start* until the NIC has been initialized? JdeBP> Check its dependency graph. If the DNS server service is happening to start wholly after the NIC is fully initialized, then this isn't the cause of the problem of course. But if it is starting in parallel before the NIC is fully initialized, which is quite likely (especially given that NIC initialization is non-trivial in this case), then this is, per Q954423, what is going on. As I said, it's a straightforward, probable, and basic thing, with an easy fix, that needs to be checked, and still hasn't been. The questions are still unanswered. Then let's see how Joe responds to your questions before moving forward on any other assumptions. |
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