Results 1 to 3 of 3

Thread: What aging/scavenging do?

  1. #1
    William Stokes Guest

    What aging/scavenging do?

    Hello,

    What actually this aging ang scavenging setting in AD integrated DNS do? I
    have enabled it with default settings in our 2003 AD. In our network all
    clients use DHCP to obtain ip settings. Now I have noticed that in the
    reverse lookup zone there are duplicate entries for some clients/ip's which
    might cause networking problems.

    Thanks
    William



  2. #2
    William Stokes Guest

    Re: What aging/scavenging do?

    Actually this happens in the forvard lookup zone as well. Also it seems that
    old PC's long gone from network pop back up in the forward lookup zone.
    Why??


    "William Stokes" <will@operamail.com> kirjoitti
    viestissä:eGWrzqllJHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Hello,
    >
    > What actually this aging ang scavenging setting in AD integrated DNS do? I
    > have enabled it with default settings in our 2003 AD. In our network all
    > clients use DHCP to obtain ip settings. Now I have noticed that in the
    > reverse lookup zone there are duplicate entries for some clients/ip's
    > which might cause networking problems.
    >
    > Thanks
    > William
    >




  3. #3
    Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer] Guest

    Re: What aging/scavenging do?

    In news:%23MNBBullJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    William Stokes <will@operamail.com>, posted the following:
    > Actually this happens in the forvard lookup zone as well. Also it
    > seems that old PC's long gone from network pop back up in the forward
    > lookup zone. Why??
    >
    >
    > "William Stokes" <will@operamail.com> kirjoitti
    > viestissä:eGWrzqllJHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> What actually this aging ang scavenging setting in AD integrated DNS
    >> do? I have enabled it with default settings in our 2003 AD. In our
    >> network all clients use DHCP to obtain ip settings. Now I have
    >> noticed that in the reverse lookup zone there are duplicate entries
    >> for some clients/ip's which might cause networking problems.
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >> William


    Hi William,

    Here is some info on scavenging, how to set it and control it.

    -------------------------------
    DHCP on DNS, Scavenging and the DnsProxyUpdate Group:

    --------------------------------------------
    The entity that registers it owns the record. The nice thing about DHCP
    owning the record is it will update it if DHCP gives the machine a new IP.
    Otherwise you'll see multiples of the same in DNS whether scavenging is
    enabled or not. I would force DHCP to own the record as well as enable
    scavenging to keep it clean. To force DHCP to own the record, you will need
    to do the following:

    1. Add the DHCP server to the DnsUpdateProxy Group.
    2. Force DHCP to register all records, Forward and PTR, (whether a client
    machine can do it or not) in the Option 081 tab (DHCP properties, DNS tab).
    3. Set Option 015 to the AD domain name (such as example.com).
    4. Set Option 006 to only the internal DNS servers.
    5. If the zone is set for Secure Updates Only, then DHCP cannot update
    non-Microsoft clients and Microsoft clients that are not joined to the
    domain. In this case, you will need to create and configure a user account
    for use as credentials for DHCP to register such clients.
    If your DHCP servers are Windows 2003 or WIndows 2008, Configure a
    dedicated the user account you created as credentials in DHCP by going into
    DHCP COnsole, DHCP server properties, and on the Advanced tab of the DHCP
    Server
    Properties sheet click the Credentials button, and provide this account
    info.
    The user account does not need any elevated rights, a normal user account
    is fine, however I recommend using a Strong non-expiring password on the
    account.

    Once you implement scavenging, you will need to wait at least a week for it
    to
    take effect. You can quicken it up by manually deleting the incorrect
    records to
    get started.

    But more importantly, if DHCP is on a DC, it will not overwrite the
    original host record for a machine getting a new lease with an IP
    formerly belonging to another. To overcome this, add the DHCP server
    (the DC) to the DnsProxyUpdate group. This will force DHCP to own
    all records it will create moving forward and will update an IP with
    a new name in DNS.

    If you set this, but when a record shows up in the DHCP Lease list with a
    pen
    (which means that a write is pending), it m ay mean it is trying to register
    into a zone that does not exist on the DNS servers. This happens in cases
    where
    the client machine is not joined to the domain and has a missing or
    different
    suffix than the zone in DNS. It can only register into a zone that exists on
    DNS and that zone updates have been configured to allow updates.
    If this is the case, go into the client machine's IP properties, and
    on the DNS tab in TCP/IP properties, clear the "Register this connection's
    addresses in DNS" as well as the "Use this connection's DNS suffix in DNS
    registration"
    check boxes, the DHCP Server will fill these in for you and register using
    the domain name in Option 015.

    The following links provide additional information on how it all works.

    How to configure DNS dynamic updates in Windows Server 2003.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816592

    Using DNS Aging and ScavengingAging and scavenging of stale resource records
    are features of Domain Name System (DNS) that are available when you deploy
    your server with primary zones.
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc757041.aspx

    Microsoft Enterprise Networking Team : Don't be afraid of DNS ...Mar 19,
    2008 ... DNS Scavenging is a great answer to a problem that has been nagging
    everyone since RFC 2136 came out way back in 1997.
    http://blogs.technet.com/networking/...e-patient.aspx

    DHCP, DNS and the DNSUpdateProxy-Group - Directory Services/Active ...I had
    a discussion in the Newsgroups lately about DHCP and the
    DNSUpdateProxy-Group which is used to write unsecured DNS-Entries to a
    DNS-Zone which only ...
    http://msmvps.com/ulfbsimonweidner/a.../15/19325.aspx

    And from Kevin Goodnecht:
    Setting up DHCP for DNS registrations
    http://support.wftx.us/setting_up_dh...s_registra.htm
    --------------------------------------


    I hope this helps.

    --
    Ace

    This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
    confers no rights.

    Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCT
    Microsoft Certified Trainer
    aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org

    For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
    check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.


Similar Threads

  1. Aging in Dungeons And Dragons Neverwinter game .
    By Arun K in forum Video Games
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-10-2011, 10:32 PM
  2. Windows 2003 DHCP / Dynamic DNS / Scavenging help
    By John Smith in forum Windows Server Help
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 26-02-2010, 10:28 AM
  3. DHCP / DNS / scavenging
    By Chris in forum Windows Server Help
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-01-2009, 06:45 PM
  4. Scavenging or something else to cleanup duplicate DNS entries?
    By User Name in forum Windows Server Help
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-10-2008, 07:36 PM
  5. HTC's Opal set to replace the aging Touch?
    By jesse in forum Portable Devices
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-09-2008, 06:03 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Page generated in 1,715,387,679.81777 seconds with 16 queries