Unable to resolve external domain names to IP addresses, Vista, WS

Rad · 22-10-2008

This is my configuration
Windows Vista Ultimate installed named VISTA1 and belongs to a workgroup
named WORKGROUP.
Vmware 6.5 is installed and Windows Server 2008 Enterprise (named WIN2008)
is installed as a guest operating system.
I want WS2008 to have several roles as:
Web server, File Server, AD (Certificate Services, Domain Services,
Federation Services, LDS)
Application Server, File Services and DNS.
I installed all of this and ran dcpromo.exe to promote WIN2008 to a domain
controller and created a new forest.
This created appropriate entries in DNS. Now this server is a part of
MYDOMAIN.COM.

Now I want the host VISTA1 to join this domain and to be able to query DNS
on WIN2008 server to resolve all external DNS lookup on the Internet.
I have a DSL router that connects my internal network to the Internet.

Questions:
1. Is it possible to join a domain that is managed on the guest operating
system from the host operating system?
That would probably require me to have WIN2008 already started before I am
prompted to login to the domain.
I would prefer not to always run the guest OS. I would only like to start it
when I am playing with the latest technologies.
I mainly need it because of SQL Server 2008 functionality, AD Domain
Services and as a IIS7

2. What would happen if WIN2008 is not started before getting a login
prompt? Will I still be able to login (using cashed credientials).

3. The most important question is how to setup DNS to resolve external
Internet lookups.
I tried adding addresses of my ISP provider in Forwarders section and Server
FQDN column reported <Unable to resolve> for both of these addresses.
Primary DNS
Secondary DNS
205.260.192.253
208.276.136.8
I tried both checking and uncheckng â€œ Use root hints if no forwarders are
availableâ€
Currently I cannot go out to the Internet from WIN2008, while I could go
before converting it to a domain controller.
I believe the request end up in DNS and DNS cannot communicate to external
DNS servers.
Please advise

Thank you very much,
Rad

This is my DSL Connection Information:
-----------------------------------------------

IP Network Address PPP
Primary DNS
Secondary DNS 205.158.237.247
205.260.192.253
208.276.136.8

=====================================================

VISTA1: Windows IP Configuration
-----------------------------------------------
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : VISTA1:
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : myhome.westell.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-C0-57-60-3B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.47(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:54:59 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:56:25 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-16-C0-45-31
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.81.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:5:0:afff::1%1
fec0:5:0:afff::2%1
fec0:5:0:afff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

A, Deji · 22-10-2008

To questions 1 and 2 - yes to everything you said.
Question 3:
Don't configure the DC to use your ISP's DNS servers in TCP/IP. The DC
should only use its own IP (or 127.0.0.1) for DNS in TCP/IP.
When you are configuring forwarding, you simply use the IP address of the
server you are forwarding to. I hope you are not mistaken in saying
"forwarding" because in forwarding, there is no concept "Primary" or
"Secondary" server. Are you able to ping the ip addresses of the servers you
are forwarding to? And are you sure that your ISP allows forwarding to those
severs? Just for clarification, you DON'T have to forward to your ISP DNS
servers. Windows DNS is able to use root hints to find information without
any assistance from ISP's DNS servers.

Deji

"Rad" <Rad@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79B0139F-62B2-474A-AE5E-4CE1DFF33945@microsoft.com...
> This is my configuration
> Windows Vista Ultimate installed named VISTA1 and belongs to a workgroup
> named WORKGROUP.
> Vmware 6.5 is installed and Windows Server 2008 Enterprise (named WIN2008)
> is installed as a guest operating system.
> I want WS2008 to have several roles as:
> Web server, File Server, AD (Certificate Services, Domain Services,
> Federation Services, LDS)
> Application Server, File Services and DNS.
> I installed all of this and ran dcpromo.exe to promote WIN2008 to a domain
> controller and created a new forest.
> This created appropriate entries in DNS. Now this server is a part of
> MYDOMAIN.COM.
>
> Now I want the host VISTA1 to join this domain and to be able to query DNS
> on WIN2008 server to resolve all external DNS lookup on the Internet.
> I have a DSL router that connects my internal network to the Internet.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Is it possible to join a domain that is managed on the guest operating
> system from the host operating system?
> That would probably require me to have WIN2008 already started before I am
> prompted to login to the domain.
> I would prefer not to always run the guest OS. I would only like to start
> it
> when I am playing with the latest technologies.
> I mainly need it because of SQL Server 2008 functionality, AD Domain
> Services and as a IIS7
>
> 2. What would happen if WIN2008 is not started before getting a login
> prompt? Will I still be able to login (using cashed credientials).
>
> 3. The most important question is how to setup DNS to resolve external
> Internet lookups.
> I tried adding addresses of my ISP provider in Forwarders section and
> Server
> FQDN column reported <Unable to resolve> for both of these addresses.
> Primary DNS
> Secondary DNS
> 205.260.192.253
> 208.276.136.8
> I tried both checking and uncheckng â€œ Use root hints if no forwarders are
> availableâ€
> Currently I cannot go out to the Internet from WIN2008, while I could go
> before converting it to a domain controller.
> I believe the request end up in DNS and DNS cannot communicate to external
> DNS servers.
> Please advise
>
>
> Thank you very much,
> Rad
>
>
>
> This is my DSL Connection Information:
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> IP Network Address PPP
> Primary DNS
> Secondary DNS 205.158.237.247
> 205.260.192.253
> 208.276.136.8
>
> =====================================================
>
> VISTA1: Windows IP Configuration
> -----------------------------------------------
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : VISTA1:
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : myhome.westell.com
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network
> Connection
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-C0-57-60-3B
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.47(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:54:59 AM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:56:25
> AM
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> 192.168.1.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
> VMnet1
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-16-C0-45-31
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.81.1(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:5:0:afff::1%1
> fec0:5:0:afff::2%1
> fec0:5:0:afff::3%1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>

Rad · 22-10-2008

Thanks Deji.
I guess there is no danger in joining a domain that resides in guest OS from
the host OS. Letâ€™s say I will do that.
4. Would you advise (is it possible) that I start guest OS (Windows 2008) in
the host OS (Windows Vista) before I get the
login prompt so I will have AD running and be ready to authenticate a user
who wants to login into VISTA1 with a domain user name?
I am reluctant to join domain until I resolve external DNS problem.

Regarding 3 question. I only use 127.0.0.1 address in TCP/IP for guest OS.
I just copied and pasted Primary DNS and Secondary DNS IP addresses from
"ipconfig/all" output and that is why you thought I did it in IP section.
I added these 2 addresses in DNS Forwarders section when I figured I cannot
go outside.
I erased my ISP DNS server IP addresses from Forwarders tab and I only have
â€œuse root hints if no forwarder are availableâ€ grayed out and checked
which should tell WIN2008 DNS server to resolve external IP addresses using
root hints.

Bellow is ipconfig/all output for my notebook machine VES (33. bellow) and
guest OS WIN2008 (22. Bellow)
You will notice that pinging VISTA1 (33.bellow) works ok from VES but not
from WIN2008 (11. Bellow)

Just as a note I selected NAT: Used to share the hostâ€™s IP address when I
created VMWare VM.
5. Should not I have selected Bridged: Connected directly to the physical
network?
I am eager to make it working because I donâ€™t have a spare dedicated machine
for Windows server 2008.

Thanks,
Rad

11. Pinging from WIN2008 guest OS doesnâ€™t
work====================================
C:\Users\admin>ping www.yahoo.com
Ping request could not find host www.yahoo.com. Please check the name and
try again.

C:\Users\admin>ping vesna

Pinging vesna [192.168.1.44] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.44:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

22. Guest OS output for ipconfing/all=======================================
WIN2008 Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : WIN2008
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : MYDOMAIN.COM
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MYDOMAIN.COM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 01-0C-29-45-3C-AB
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.25(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 8:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{0D7F2BC0-1CD3-4C71-A394-415E77C6125E}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

33. Another machine VES (that uses wireless connection of westell DSL
router) ipconfing/all output=======================================
VES Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : VES
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 04-C1-9F-6D-89-11

Ethernet adapter Network Bridge:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : myhome.westell.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 01-3E-37-C1-97-9C
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.44
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, October 22, 2008
12:24:17
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, October 23, 2008
12:24:17
AM

C:\> ping VISTA1

Pinging wizard.myhome.westell.com [192.168.1.47] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.47: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.47: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.47: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.47: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.47:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

"A, Deji" wrote:

> To questions 1 and 2 - yes to everything you said.
> Question 3:
> Don't configure the DC to use your ISP's DNS servers in TCP/IP. The DC
> should only use its own IP (or 127.0.0.1) for DNS in TCP/IP.
> When you are configuring forwarding, you simply use the IP address of the
> server you are forwarding to. I hope you are not mistaken in saying
> "forwarding" because in forwarding, there is no concept "Primary" or
> "Secondary" server. Are you able to ping the ip addresses of the servers you
> are forwarding to? And are you sure that your ISP allows forwarding to those
> severs? Just for clarification, you DON'T have to forward to your ISP DNS
> servers. Windows DNS is able to use root hints to find information without
> any assistance from ISP's DNS servers.
>
> Deji
>
> "Rad" <Rad@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:79B0139F-62B2-474A-AE5E-4CE1DFF33945@microsoft.com...
> > This is my configuration
> > Windows Vista Ultimate installed named VISTA1 and belongs to a workgroup
> > named WORKGROUP.
> > Vmware 6.5 is installed and Windows Server 2008 Enterprise (named WIN2008)
> > is installed as a guest operating system.
> > I want WS2008 to have several roles as:
> > Web server, File Server, AD (Certificate Services, Domain Services,
> > Federation Services, LDS)
> > Application Server, File Services and DNS.
> > I installed all of this and ran dcpromo.exe to promote WIN2008 to a domain
> > controller and created a new forest.
> > This created appropriate entries in DNS. Now this server is a part of
> > MYDOMAIN.COM.
> >
> > Now I want the host VISTA1 to join this domain and to be able to query DNS
> > on WIN2008 server to resolve all external DNS lookup on the Internet.
> > I have a DSL router that connects my internal network to the Internet.
> >
> > Questions:
> > 1. Is it possible to join a domain that is managed on the guest operating
> > system from the host operating system?
> > That would probably require me to have WIN2008 already started before I am
> > prompted to login to the domain.
> > I would prefer not to always run the guest OS. I would only like to start
> > it
> > when I am playing with the latest technologies.
> > I mainly need it because of SQL Server 2008 functionality, AD Domain
> > Services and as a IIS7
> >
> > 2. What would happen if WIN2008 is not started before getting a login
> > prompt? Will I still be able to login (using cashed credientials).
> >
> > 3. The most important question is how to setup DNS to resolve external
> > Internet lookups.
> > I tried adding addresses of my ISP provider in Forwarders section and
> > Server
> > FQDN column reported <Unable to resolve> for both of these addresses.
> > Primary DNS
> > Secondary DNS
> > 205.260.192.253
> > 208.276.136.8
> > I tried both checking and uncheckng â€œ Use root hints if no forwarders are
> > availableâ€
> > Currently I cannot go out to the Internet from WIN2008, while I could go
> > before converting it to a domain controller.
> > I believe the request end up in DNS and DNS cannot communicate to external
> > DNS servers.
> > Please advise
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Rad
> >
> >
> >
> > This is my DSL Connection Information:
> > -----------------------------------------------
> >
> > IP Network Address PPP
> > Primary DNS
> > Secondary DNS 205.158.237.247
> > 205.260.192.253
> > 208.276.136.8
> >
> > =====================================================
> >
> > VISTA1: Windows IP Configuration
> > -----------------------------------------------
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : VISTA1:
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : myhome.westell.com
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network
> > Connection
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-C0-57-60-3B
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.47(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:54:59 AM
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:56:25
> > AM
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > 192.168.1.1
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
> > VMnet1
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-16-C0-45-31
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.81.1(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:5:0:afff::1%1
> > fec0:5:0:afff::2%1
> > fec0:5:0:afff::3%1
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
>
>

Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] · 23-10-2008

Read inline please.

In news:90F18580-F829-484B-A0D0-CF8B96B353FF@microsoft.com,
Rad <Rad@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> 11. Pinging from WIN2008 guest OS doesn't
> work====================================
> C:\Users\admin>ping www.yahoo.com
> Ping request could not find host www.yahoo.com. Please check the name
> and try again.
>
> C:\Users\admin>ping vesna
>
> Pinging vesna [192.168.1.44] with 32 bytes of data:
> Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
> Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
> Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
> Reply from 192.168.1.25: Destination host unreachable.
>
> Ping statistics for 192.168.1.44:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Destination host unreachable usually means you have a routing table problem
or an IPSec error. Notice that the packets are rejected by the server's own
IP?

Lately I've seen serveral servers IPSec errors on Win2k3, in that case
Win2k3 logs a 4292 event from IPSec.

You can run route print command to see the route table.

>
>
> 22. Guest OS output for
> ipconfing/all======================================= WIN2008 Windows
> IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : WIN2008
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : MYDOMAIN.COM
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MYDOMAIN.COM
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
> Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 01-0C-29-45-3C-AB
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.25(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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