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  1. #1
    Mr555 Guest

    Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failover he

    Hello

    Some of you clustering expert may be able to answer my questions. we have a
    windows 2003 Standard edition enabled IIS6 as a web server. Current running
    for support our custom build online ordering application which connected to a
    SQL server

    We have been told this ordering system will get heavily use from next year
    onward, we need to come up a solution. First come to our mind is NLB for the
    web server. Our thinking is to have 2 web server running NLB. Connect to a
    single SQL database.
    But we also require fault tolerant capability. If 1 server die the other
    server will takes over the role. My question is can we have this protect
    features enable using windows 2003 Standard edition or we are require to
    have windows 2003 Enterprise edition to be able to work ?

    Has anyone done the above setup? I am still learning in this area. Any
    suggestion will be really appreciate it,
    Thanks


  2. #2
    Russ Kaufmann Guest

    Re: Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failover he

    "Mr555" <Mr555@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4ABAA2F9-19FF-4F1C-A6F7-969D75ABEDAB@microsoft.com...
    > Hello
    >
    > Some of you clustering expert may be able to answer my questions. we have
    > a
    > windows 2003 Standard edition enabled IIS6 as a web server. Current
    > running
    > for support our custom build online ordering application which connected
    > to a
    > SQL server
    >
    > We have been told this ordering system will get heavily use from next year
    > onward, we need to come up a solution. First come to our mind is NLB for
    > the
    > web server. Our thinking is to have 2 web server running NLB. Connect to a
    > single SQL database.
    > But we also require fault tolerant capability. If 1 server die the other
    > server will takes over the role. My question is can we have this protect
    > features enable using windows 2003 Standard edition or we are require to
    > have windows 2003 Enterprise edition to be able to work ?


    NLB will meet your needs for IIS, scaling out, and high availability.

    --
    Russ Kaufmann,
    MCSE: Messaging and Security, MCT, MCITP, MCTS and other stuff

    ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
    Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
    Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp

    The next ClusterHelp classes are:
    July 28-31 in Pittsburgh
    Oct 13-16 in New York


  3. #3
    Mr555 Guest

    Re: Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failove

    Hello Russ

    Thank you for your answer to my questions. Is it only Windows 2003
    Enterprise Edition can support failover is this correct ? Standard only
    support NLB to share the load.

    Can you run NLB cluster to support IIS and have failover capibility ?

    Thank you

    "Russ Kaufmann" wrote:

    > "Mr555" <Mr555@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:4ABAA2F9-19FF-4F1C-A6F7-969D75ABEDAB@microsoft.com...
    > > Hello
    > >
    > > Some of you clustering expert may be able to answer my questions. we have
    > > a
    > > windows 2003 Standard edition enabled IIS6 as a web server. Current
    > > running
    > > for support our custom build online ordering application which connected
    > > to a
    > > SQL server
    > >
    > > We have been told this ordering system will get heavily use from next year
    > > onward, we need to come up a solution. First come to our mind is NLB for
    > > the
    > > web server. Our thinking is to have 2 web server running NLB. Connect to a
    > > single SQL database.
    > > But we also require fault tolerant capability. If 1 server die the other
    > > server will takes over the role. My question is can we have this protect
    > > features enable using windows 2003 Standard edition or we are require to
    > > have windows 2003 Enterprise edition to be able to work ?

    >
    > NLB will meet your needs for IIS, scaling out, and high availability.
    >
    > --
    > Russ Kaufmann,
    > MCSE: Messaging and Security, MCT, MCITP, MCTS and other stuff
    >
    > ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
    > Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
    > Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp
    >
    > The next ClusterHelp classes are:
    > July 28-31 in Pittsburgh
    > Oct 13-16 in New York
    >


  4. #4
    Russ Kaufmann Guest

    Re: Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failove

    "Mr555" <Mr555@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B6B2D545-CE4B-4480-9571-239D31FE6602@microsoft.com...
    > Hello Russ
    >
    > Thank you for your answer to my questions. Is it only Windows 2003
    > Enterprise Edition can support failover is this correct ? Standard only
    > support NLB to share the load.


    Sorry, but I don't think I understand your question. Are you asking if
    Server Clustering is only supported for Enterprise? If so, then the answer
    is no. Datacenter also supports server clustering.

    As to NLB, every single version of WIndows Server 2003 supports NLB.

    > Can you run NLB cluster to support IIS and have failover capibility ?


    What do you mean by "failover capability" in your question? If you mean, can
    an NLB cluster have a failure and other nodes take over its load, then the
    answer is yes.

    You really should read the NLB FAQ here:
    http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true


    --
    Russ Kaufmann,
    MCSE: Messaging and Security, MCT, MCITP, MCTS and other stuff

    ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
    Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
    Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp

    The next ClusterHelp classes are:
    July 28-31 in Pittsburgh
    Oct 13-16 in New York




  5. #5
    Mr555 Guest

    Re: Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failove

    Hi Russ

    Thank you so much for help

    The reason I asked windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise edition is because i
    was thinking only windows 2003 Enterprise edition can support NLB load
    balancing and Servere clustering at the same time. But with Windwows 2003
    Standard only support NLB

    Thank you for the link



    "Russ Kaufmann" wrote:

    > "Mr555" <Mr555@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B6B2D545-CE4B-4480-9571-239D31FE6602@microsoft.com...
    > > Hello Russ
    > >
    > > Thank you for your answer to my questions. Is it only Windows 2003
    > > Enterprise Edition can support failover is this correct ? Standard only
    > > support NLB to share the load.

    >
    > Sorry, but I don't think I understand your question. Are you asking if
    > Server Clustering is only supported for Enterprise? If so, then the answer
    > is no. Datacenter also supports server clustering.
    >
    > As to NLB, every single version of WIndows Server 2003 supports NLB.
    >
    > > Can you run NLB cluster to support IIS and have failover capibility ?

    >
    > What do you mean by "failover capability" in your question? If you mean, can
    > an NLB cluster have a failure and other nodes take over its load, then the
    > answer is yes.
    >
    > You really should read the NLB FAQ here:
    > http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true
    >
    >
    > --
    > Russ Kaufmann,
    > MCSE: Messaging and Security, MCT, MCITP, MCTS and other stuff
    >
    > ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
    > Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
    > Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp
    >
    > The next ClusterHelp classes are:
    > July 28-31 in Pittsburgh
    > Oct 13-16 in New York
    >
    >
    >


  6. #6
    Russ Kaufmann Guest

    Re: Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failove

    "Mr555" <Mr555@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ADB825BD-2961-43AE-B1F4-1F03F1B5BE74@microsoft.com...
    > Hi Russ
    >
    > Thank you so much for help
    >
    > The reason I asked windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise edition is because
    > i
    > was thinking only windows 2003 Enterprise edition can support NLB load
    > balancing and Servere clustering at the same time. But with Windwows 2003
    > Standard only support NLB


    Server clustering and NLB can not be run on the same nodes.


    --
    Russ Kaufmann,
    MCSE: Messaging and Security, MCT, MCITP, MCTS and other stuff

    ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
    Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
    Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp

    The next ClusterHelp classes are:
    July 28-31 in Pittsburgh
    Oct 13-16 in New York


  7. #7
    Mr555 Guest

    Re: Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise to support NLB and failove

    Thank you

    "Russ Kaufmann" wrote:

    > "Mr555" <Mr555@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:ADB825BD-2961-43AE-B1F4-1F03F1B5BE74@microsoft.com...
    > > Hi Russ
    > >
    > > Thank you so much for help
    > >
    > > The reason I asked windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise edition is because
    > > i
    > > was thinking only windows 2003 Enterprise edition can support NLB load
    > > balancing and Servere clustering at the same time. But with Windwows 2003
    > > Standard only support NLB

    >
    > Server clustering and NLB can not be run on the same nodes.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Russ Kaufmann,
    > MCSE: Messaging and Security, MCT, MCITP, MCTS and other stuff
    >
    > ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
    > Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
    > Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp
    >
    > The next ClusterHelp classes are:
    > July 28-31 in Pittsburgh
    > Oct 13-16 in New York
    >


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