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David B

David Lipman is correct here. The post Support the Jews with the line in the post
saying Pity the poor! was directed at me. I am Jewish and I made a post on another
newserver concerning that I have a Bose system.

Boater Dave is a Bigot,Anti Semite and generally sick Troll. His question to you
asking the following

"Are you involved in 'computing' in a business capacity or did you simply
mean family/friends?"

was meant to feel you out. If you would have said business then he would be after
you as a liar or even a terrorist and someone not to be trusted.

Watch out for this person,he is dangerously sick . And IGNORE HIM and his posts
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"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
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> His answer to the OP was accurate, I don't feed the trolls when they're trolling,
> I saw no trolling in this thread, except from lipman.
>
> --
>
>
> --
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JWg16HdKHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Please don't feed the trolls, especially THAT troll.
>>
>> David B. wrote:
>>> Yup, had the little target icon, I still run across people with that
>>> installed even though it's obsolete in that form.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 03/12/2009 13:50, David B. wrote:
>>>>> Actually it's you that should be paid no attention.
>>>>>
>>>> Hey! *I'm* David B. too! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Do you remember when Microsoft bought out Giant and then re-badged it as
>>>> Defender?
>>>>
>>>> I thought I'd given a reasonable answer to the OP. Thank you for your
>>>> support!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave (Sometimes man stumbles over the truth ...... Sir Winston Churchill)
>

On 04/12/2009 22:18, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "David B."<mail@nomail.net>
>
> | His answer to the OP was accurate, I don't feed the trolls when they're
> | trolling, I saw no trolling in this thread, except from lipman.
>
>
> He has also begun to cross the line in creating anti semtic posts such as one enitled
> "Support the Jews!"
> which is nothing but a post for Bose URL with the text "Pity the poor !" and "No doubt
> claimed as a business expense!".
>
The post to which you refer was made *only* in a *test* group -
microsoft.public.test.here

Please explain to anyone reading here why you were/are monitoring a
*test* group in order to observe whatever I may choose to post.

--
Dave (Sometimes man stumbles over the truth ...... Sir Winston Churchill)

On 04/12/2009 22:53, Peter Foldes wrote:
> David B
>
> David Lipman is correct here. The post Support the Jews with the
> line in the post saying Pity the poor! was directed at me. I am
> Jewish and I made a post on another newserver concerning that I have a
> Bose system.
>
> Boater Dave is a Bigot, Anti Semite and generally sick Troll. His
> question to you asking the following
>
> "Are you involved in 'computing' in a business capacity or did you simply
> mean family/friends?"
>
> was meant to feel you out. If you would have said business then he
> would be after you as a liar or even a terrorist and someone not to be
> trusted.
>
> Watch out for this person,he is dangerously sick . And IGNORE HIM and
> his posts

The post to which you refer was made *only* in a *test* group -
microsoft.public.test.here

Please explain to anyone reading here why you were/are monitoring a
*test* group in order to observe whatever I may choose to post.


--
Dave (Sometimes man stumbles over the truth ...... Sir Winston Churchill)

From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk>

It might have been a test group but you were certainly NOT "testing" a Usenet client.
Social Engineering tests are not the reason why 'test' groups were created.

You have been known to deliberatly take a non-cross posted Usenet thread and cross-post it
into the test group you are refering to.

These are actions of trolls and not actions made by reputable people and thus users must
be disauaded from thinking of you as being reputable if you reply to a security or
security software related query.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:54:12 -0500, ~BD~
<BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 04/12/2009 22:18, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "David B."<mail@nomail.net>
>>
>> | His answer to the OP was accurate, I don't feed the trolls when
>> they're
>> | trolling, I saw no trolling in this thread, except from lipman.
>>
>>
>> He has also begun to cross the line in creating anti semtic posts such
>> as one enitled
>> "Support the Jews!"
>> which is nothing but a post for Bose URL with the text "Pity the poor
>> !" and "No doubt
>> claimed as a business expense!".
>>
> The post to which you refer was made *only* in a *test* group -
> microsoft.public.test.here
>
> Please explain to anyone reading here why you were/are monitoring a
> *test* group in order to observe whatever I may choose to post.
>

I thought you were a stand-up guy dave. Why did you create a post with the
title "support the jews"????
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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:17:19 -0500, ~BD~
<BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 04/12/2009 22:53, Peter Foldes wrote:
>> David B
>>
>> David Lipman is correct here. The post Support the Jews with the line
>> in the post saying Pity the poor! was directed at me. I am Jewish and
>> I made a post on another newserver concerning that I have a Bose system.
>>
>> Boater Dave is a Bigot, Anti Semite and generally sick Troll. His
>> question to you asking the following
>>
>> "Are you involved in 'computing' in a business capacity or did you
>> simply
>> mean family/friends?"
>>
>> was meant to feel you out. If you would have said business then he
>> would be after you as a liar or even a terrorist and someone not to be
>> trusted.
>>
>> Watch out for this person,he is dangerously sick . And IGNORE HIM and
>> his posts
>
> The post to which you refer was made *only* in a *test* group -
> microsoft.public.test.here
>
> Please explain to anyone reading here why you were/are monitoring a
> *test* group in order to observe whatever I may choose to post.
>
>

you have made a poor choice
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On 04/12/2009 23:29, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "~BD~"<BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk>
>
> It might have been a test group but you were certainly NOT "testing" a Usenet client.
> Social Engineering tests are not the reason why 'test' groups were created.
>
There is no rhyme or reason why I shouldn't post anything I wish in a
*test* group.

Similarly, there is no logical reason why other folk should be
monitoring any posts I make there, unless they, themselves, are up to no
good.
> You have been known to deliberatly take a non-cross posted Usenet thread and cross-post it
> into the test group you are refering to.
>

I openly admit to doing that. Why should you be concerned about it? It
does no harm at all.
> These are actions of trolls and not actions made by reputable people and thus users must
> be disauaded from thinking of you as being reputable if you reply to a security or
> security software related query.
>

These are the actions of someone who knows that the Usenet groups are
*very* dangerous places and feels that naive and innocent folk can so
easily be fooled by those who may mean them and/or their machines harm.

I challenge you to cite any instance - anywhere - where I may have given
incorrect/unsafe advice to anyone, ever.

You can say and do whatever you like - it will not change the fact that
I *am* of good character and, as you put it, reputable.


--
Dave (Sometimes man stumbles over the truth ...... Sir Winston Churchill)

From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk>


| You can say and do whatever you like - it will not change the fact that
| I *am* of good character and, as you put it, reputable.


I do not argue with idiots.

They bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience.

--
Dave
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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On 04/12/2009 23:44, Maximus the Mad wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:54:12 -0500, ~BD~
> <BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 04/12/2009 22:18, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "David B."<mail@nomail.net>
>>>
>>> | His answer to the OP was accurate, I don't feed the trolls when
>>> they're
>>> | trolling, I saw no trolling in this thread, except from lipman.
>>>
>>>
>>> He has also begun to cross the line in creating anti semtic posts
>>> such as one enitled
>>> "Support the Jews!"
>>> which is nothing but a post for Bose URL with the text "Pity the
>>> poor !" and "No doubt
>>> claimed as a business expense!".
>>>
>> The post to which you refer was made *only* in a *test* group -
>> microsoft.public.test.here
>>
>> Please explain to anyone reading here why you were/are monitoring a
>> *test* group in order to observe whatever I may choose to post.
>>
>
> I thought you were a stand-up guy dave. Why did you create a post with
> the title "support the jews"????

One of my closest friends (actually a couple) are Jewish and introduced
me to a web site called aish.com some years ago and I read same regularly.

I listened to this broadcast recently
http://www.aish.com/ci/ss/78036837.html and felt horrified by what was
being said (this is 2009!)

Do you feel that it was wrong for me to make a post in support of Jewish
people? It wasn't me who put a twist on what I said.

Methinks you should be more concerned about why certain folk watch and
monitor everything I say and do. *Normal* people do not monitor a test
group - do they?

--
Dave (Sometimes man stumbles over the truth ...... Sir Winston Churchill)

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:30:54 -0500, ~BD~
<BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 04/12/2009 23:44, Maximus the Mad wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:54:12 -0500, ~BD~
>> <BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/12/2009 22:18, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>>> From: "David B."<mail@nomail.net>
>>>>
>>>> | His answer to the OP was accurate, I don't feed the trolls when
>>>> they're
>>>> | trolling, I saw no trolling in this thread, except from lipman.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He has also begun to cross the line in creating anti semtic posts
>>>> such as one enitled
>>>> "Support the Jews!"
>>>> which is nothing but a post for Bose URL with the text "Pity the poor
>>>> !" and "No doubt
>>>> claimed as a business expense!".
>>>>
>>> The post to which you refer was made *only* in a *test* group -
>>> microsoft.public.test.here
>>>
>>> Please explain to anyone reading here why you were/are monitoring a
>>> *test* group in order to observe whatever I may choose to post.
>>>
>>
>> I thought you were a stand-up guy dave. Why did you create a post with
>> the title "support the jews"????
>
> One of my closest friends (actually a couple) are Jewish and introduced
> me to a web site called aish.com some years ago and I read same
> regularly.
>
> I listened to this broadcast recently
> http://www.aish.com/ci/ss/78036837.html and felt horrified by what was
> being said (this is 2009!)
>
I was not aware of aish.com- Thanks!
Here is something worth reading-what a blessing!
The Name
http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/69739762.html

> Do you feel that it was wrong for me to make a post in support of Jewish
> people? It wasn't me who put a twist on what I said.

I did not see any type of support in that post.
>
> Methinks you should be more concerned about why certain folk watch and
> monitor everything I say and do. *Normal* people do not monitor a test
> group - do they?
>
The best way to figure out who's advice to listen to is to just lurk and
see what is going on. I can tell you that pcbutts1 aka the real truth is a
liar and a thief. We go back aways before he had his accident and lost all
touch with reality. I saw the pictures linked to by PC, of the guy being
pulled out of that van. PC stated in 24hd that it was him being pulled out
and now he swears that he is a woman. Just ask me who's advice to shun and
I'll set you straight. I am not sure why you have such a hardon for Peter
but you really should just let it go and stop the crazy cross-poasting. I
am removing the test group from my folder and will not be responding to
any posts in any other groups that are targeted there.
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk>
>
> It might have been a test group but you were certainly NOT "testing" a
> Usenet client.
> Social Engineering tests are not the reason why 'test' groups were
> created.
>
> You have been known to deliberatly take a non-cross posted Usenet thread
> and cross-post it
> into the test group you are refering to.
>
> These are actions of trolls and not actions made by reputable people and
> thus users must
> be disauaded from thinking of you as being reputable if you reply to a
> security or
> security software related query.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>