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Thread: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

  1. #1
    kenhes Guest

    Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
    by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
    my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
    winver).

    But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
    ram.

    Anyone know why?

    PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?


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    kenhes

  2. #2
    marfi Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    U¿ytkownik "kenhes" <guest@unknown-email.com> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
    news:813e21402b39c3d8a1ad597dc75c772c@nntp-gateway.com...

    ....
    > PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?

    No. I have Vista64 with 8GBRAM and disabled pagefile.
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    marfi


  3. #3
    KingOfChaos Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    kenhes;698421 Wrote:
    > Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
    > by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
    > my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
    > winver).
    >
    > But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
    > ram.
    >
    > Anyone know why?
    >
    > PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?
    >
    > Edit: Restoring the pagefile changes nothing. I'm at a loss. Is Vista
    > using all the ram but just not showing it in the task manager?


    Your hardware is most likely taking up most of your memory space.
    Windows Vista works differently than previous versions of Windows, so
    not every bit of memory space is being used just by your applications.
    A lot of it will be utilized by windows in order to run hard ware
    profiles in a fast and timely manner.


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    KingOfChaos

    "I am the BSOD that haunts your every process"

  4. #4
    Bob Campbell Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    "kenhes" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:813e21402b39c3d8a1ad597dc75c772c@nntp-gateway.com...
    >
    > Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
    > by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
    > my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
    > winver).
    >
    > But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
    > ram.
    >
    > Anyone know why?


    Sounds like you are running 32 bit Vista.

    > PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?


    No, but it is a sign of your stupidity. Why would you disable the page
    file? Having "lots of RAM" does not eliminate the need for paging. I am
    continually amazed at the number of people who still think this is a good
    idea!

    Why don't you disable your CPU cache while you are at it? Uninstall your
    video driver and use plain VGA?


  5. #5
    kenhes Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    Bob Campbell;698651 Wrote:
    > "kenhes" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:813e21402b39c3d8a1ad597dc75c772c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
    > > >
    > > > Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's

    > > seen
    > > > by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen

    > > in
    > > > my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
    > > > winver).
    > > >
    > > > But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
    > > > ram.
    > > >
    > > > Anyone know why? > > Sounds like you are running 32 bit Vista.
    > > > >
    > > > PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it? > > No, but it is a sign of your stupidity. Why would you disable the

    > page
    > file? Having "lots of RAM" does not eliminate the need for paging.
    > I am
    > continually amazed at the number of people who still think this is a
    > good
    > idea!
    >
    > Why don't you disable your CPU cache while you are at it? Uninstall
    > your
    > video driver and use plain VGA?


    Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll do what I like with my own system.
    The pagefile is a relic of the past. It's there solely to replace ram
    which in the past was expensive. Now I have more ram, I'm going to force
    Vista to use it. And I might add I've had no adverse effects. Quite the
    opposite actually because using ram instead of slow hard drives is
    infinitely faster.

    Maybe you should try before you form your opinions.


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    kenhes

  6. #6
    dennis Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    Bob Campbell wrote:
    > No, but it is a sign of your stupidity. Why would you disable the page
    > file? Having "lots of RAM" does not eliminate the need for paging.
    > I am continually amazed at the number of people who still think this is
    > a good idea!


    I think it depends a great deal on how much ram is installed and what
    the computer is used for. As long as you don't run out of ram, you'll be
    just fine without a paging file.

  7. #7
    Tim Slattery Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    kenhes <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

    >
    >Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
    >by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
    >my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
    >winver).


    >But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
    >ram.


    This is probably a dumb question, but are you sure you're looking at
    total RAM, not available RAM?

    >PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?


    I wouldn't do that myself, but if it caused a problem I don't think it
    would be this one.

    --
    Tim Slattery
    MS MVP(Shell/User)
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

  8. #8
    kenhes Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    I respect you opinion (you didn't call me stupid or tell me what to do),
    but as I say, I've experienced no adverse effects.

    Look at the image I attached in the first post to decide if I'm looking
    at the memory correctly. As you'll see on the left, vista reports the
    system having 8gb. But in the task manager on the right, it reports
    physical memory as 3326mb. It seems like it's hitting the 32bit limit
    for some reason.


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    kenhes

  9. #9
    Bob Campbell Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    "kenhes" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:5e91b875b9dd080850202c7e5fce7c67@nntp-gateway.com...
    >
    > Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll do what I like with my own system.
    > The pagefile is a relic of the past.


    No, it isn't. You clearly have no idea what it is for.

    > It's there solely to replace ram
    > which in the past was expensive.


    No, it isn't. You clearly have no idea what it is for.

    > Now I have more ram, I'm going to force
    > Vista to use it. And I might add I've had no adverse effects. Quite the
    > opposite actually because using ram instead of slow hard drives is
    > infinitely faster.


    I'll repeat since you don't understand. The pagefile is NOT there to
    "replace ram". The time will come when you will run out of ram and the
    system will crash. That is what happens when you disable the page file.
    Hopefully you will lose some irreplaceable data files in the process.

    Moron.


  10. #10
    kenhes Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    Keep that hard drive grinding away. Simpleton.


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    kenhes

  11. #11
    John Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:58:43 -0500, kenhes <guest@unknown-email.com>
    wrote:

    >Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll do what I like with my own system.
    >The pagefile is a relic of the past. It's there solely to replace ram
    >which in the past was expensive. Now I have more ram, I'm going to force
    >Vista to use it. And I might add I've had no adverse effects. Quite the
    >opposite actually because using ram instead of slow hard drives is
    >infinitely faster.


    I've run systems with no paging file for a short time however given
    how cheap hard drives are, I'm currently running a 10GB page on a 20GB
    partiton on my secondary RAID. I also relocate all temp directories to
    that partition. Combining the 10GB swap with 4GB of RAM gives me a
    total swap space of 14GB which is more than enough to run even Vista
    in VM.

    JD

  12. #12
    John Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:35:37 -0400, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob>
    wrote:

    > but it is a sign of your stupidity.


    Another winner !

    JD

  13. #13
    John Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

    On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:39:18 -0500, kenhes <guest@unknown-email.com>
    wrote:

    >But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
    >ram.


    Didn't I read somewhere that Task Manager itself is a 32bit app ?
    Reaching here but ............

    JD

  14. #14
    kenhes Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    Oh Thank God. I finally tracked it down to msconfig where I had
    inadvertently ticked the max memory at 3326mb. I disabled it and
    rebooted and it showed 8gb after that. Now the task manager shows the
    same.


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  15. #15
    Bone_Daddy Guest

    Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue


    LOL! LOL! Bob, what rock did you crawl out under from? Do some research
    before 1.) you call people idiots when they simply ask for advice and
    2.) make a statement about the page file citing NOTHING to back it up.


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    Bone_Daddy

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