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Thread: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

  1. #1
    drewex Guest

    Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    HI all,
    I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the new
    laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
    Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

  2. #2
    drewex Guest

    RE: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    I forgot write that i am ok rebuilding the old machine but i really need to
    copy my stuff to new machine and upgrade the new machine using the new
    install cd. So I guess my main question is can i upgrade using the same cd
    again.

    "drewex" wrote:

    > HI all,
    > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the new
    > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
    > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.


  3. #3
    Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
    Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
    --
    Andre
    Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    > HI all,
    > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
    > new
    > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
    > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.




  4. #4
    drewex Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    Yea but the upgrade cd is already used on my old machine. wouldnt that cause
    a problem in validation.

    "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

    > I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
    > Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
    > --
    > Andre
    > Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    > My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    > http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    > "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    > > HI all,
    > > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    > > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    > > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    > > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    > > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
    > > new
    > > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
    > > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

    >
    >
    >


  5. #5
    gw Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium


    "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    > HI all,
    > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
    > new
    > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
    > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.


    You would be OK re-using your upgrade to Ultimate (as long as you un-install
    it from your other machine first.) You will probably have to activate by
    phone.

    However, you can't use the Vista Home Premium from the new laptop on the old
    laptop. First, laptops almost always use OEM SLP licenses, which are tied to
    specific hardware on the laptop. They are not transferable to other
    hardware. Second, if your Ultimate license is an upgrade (not full version),
    it needs to be installed on top of a qualifying version of Windows. The
    original Home Premium license on the new laptop becomes part of the Ultimate
    Upgrade. You can't re-use the Home Premium license.



  6. #6
    alexB Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    I don't think so because your first upgrade could have been screwed up and
    it is not the MS intend to make your life miserable.

    "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:8273DA11-AF32-499F-B67D-A0C0606B1035@microsoft.com...
    > Yea but the upgrade cd is already used on my old machine. wouldnt that
    > cause
    > a problem in validation.
    >
    > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
    >
    >> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
    >> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
    >> --
    >> Andre
    >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    >> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    >> "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    >> > HI all,
    >> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to
    >> > upgrade
    >> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    >> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps,
    >> > codes,
    >> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    >> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with
    >> > the
    >> > new
    >> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do
    >> > this.
    >> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

    >>
    >>
    >>



  7. #7
    Mick Murphy Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    You can't see anything, you drunkard!

    "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

    > I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
    > Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
    > --
    > Andre
    > Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    > My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    > http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    > "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    > > HI all,
    > > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    > > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    > > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    > > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    > > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
    > > new
    > > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
    > > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

    >
    >
    >


  8. #8
    Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    No, its the license that determines what can be installed, not the physical
    media. The only different here is that your media is an upgrade, the thing
    to take into consideration too is that you have a qualifying version of
    Windows Vista already installed. Its not the amount of times you have used
    the physical media.
    --
    Andre
    Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:8273DA11-AF32-499F-B67D-A0C0606B1035@microsoft.com...
    > Yea but the upgrade cd is already used on my old machine. wouldnt that
    > cause
    > a problem in validation.
    >
    > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
    >
    >> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
    >> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
    >> --
    >> Andre
    >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    >> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    >> "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    >> > HI all,
    >> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to
    >> > upgrade
    >> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    >> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps,
    >> > codes,
    >> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    >> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with
    >> > the
    >> > new
    >> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do
    >> > this.
    >> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

    >>
    >>
    >>




  9. #9
    alexB Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

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    aren't you? Working in tandem, giving people deliberately erroneous advice
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    too or you are more of a native, West Coast liberal brand, sort of a
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    from cradle to grave?

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    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1

    I want to warn other posters who want to try it to wash their hands after
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    with some sense of English language and its abusers may find not really
    enjoyable but perhaps interesting.




    "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:97655C7F-BE33-4FBD-8DDD-F979269FAA93@microsoft.com...
    > You can't see anything, you drunkard!
    >
    > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
    >
    >> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
    >> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
    >> --
    >> Andre
    >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
    >> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
    >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
    >> "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@microsoft.com...
    >> > HI all,
    >> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to
    >> > upgrade
    >> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    >> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps,
    >> > codes,
    >> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    >> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with
    >> > the
    >> > new
    >> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do
    >> > this.
    >> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

    >>
    >>
    >>



  10. #10
    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:40:05 -0800, drewex
    <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    > HI all,
    > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
    > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
    > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
    > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
    > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the new
    > laptop. Is this possible




    No, there are three problems with putting Home Premium on the old
    computer:

    1. You couldn't literally downgrade from Ultimate to Home Premium
    since downgrades are never supported. You would have to do a clean
    installation.

    2. The EULA for the copy of Vista that will come with your new
    computer prohibits this. The copy of Vista Home Premium that comes
    with your laptop is an OEM version, and OEM versions are permanently
    tied by the EULA to the computer they come with. They can never
    legally be sold or given away without the computer, or transferred to
    another computer.

    3. Most computers these days that come with preinstalled Windows have
    their copy of Windows BIOS-locked to the particular computer. You
    won't be able to use it on any other computer.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup

  11. #11
    drewex Guest

    RE: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    Thanks all, Good knowlage

    I have one more question, I got iis and few ultimate(business) functions on
    my old laptop, I was gonig to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer
    over studio, office, codes in iis and so on. Well since the new laptop
    initally doesnt have some freatures. would this be a problem. and what type
    of transfer do you guys suggest to do, should i use Windows Easy Transfer
    Companion or just do clean installs of everything. I really dont want to go
    trough installing everything one by one.

  12. #12
    Here Today Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A808D773-FCB4-4508-9083-1BA912E1601D@microsoft.com...
    > Thanks all, Good knowlage
    >
    > I have one more question, I got iis and few ultimate(business) functions
    > on
    > my old laptop, I was gonig to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to
    > transfer
    > over studio, office, codes in iis and so on. Well since the new laptop
    > initally doesnt have some freatures. would this be a problem. and what
    > type
    > of transfer do you guys suggest to do, should i use Windows Easy Transfer
    > Companion or just do clean installs of everything. I really dont want to
    > go
    > trough installing everything one by one.


    Your new computer should have the same programs that you are transferring
    settings over for. If you do not have Office on the new compter, what good
    does transfering office settings do? Transfer moves files and program
    settings, but does not reinstall programs on your new computer. Install
    your programs first then transfer over settings for that program.

    Mean Gene



  13. #13
    drewex Guest

    Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

    Your confused about the program im talkin about.
    here's a resource what that program does(at least what it says it does)
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931696

    Its not windows easy transfer its Windows Easy Transfer Companion (WETC)
    and it transfers programs. but not sure if it works from vista to vista. its
    looks like its for xp to vista. any one know if it works from vista ultimate
    to vista ultimate or vista home premium.
    "Here Today" wrote:

    > "drewex" <drewex@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:A808D773-FCB4-4508-9083-1BA912E1601D@microsoft.com...
    > > Thanks all, Good knowlage
    > >
    > > I have one more question, I got iis and few ultimate(business) functions
    > > on
    > > my old laptop, I was gonig to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to
    > > transfer
    > > over studio, office, codes in iis and so on. Well since the new laptop
    > > initally doesnt have some freatures. would this be a problem. and what
    > > type
    > > of transfer do you guys suggest to do, should i use Windows Easy Transfer
    > > Companion or just do clean installs of everything. I really dont want to
    > > go
    > > trough installing everything one by one.

    >
    > Your new computer should have the same programs that you are transferring
    > settings over for. If you do not have Office on the new compter, what good
    > does transfering office settings do? Transfer moves files and program
    > settings, but does not reinstall programs on your new computer. Install
    > your programs first then transfer over settings for that program.
    >
    > Mean Gene
    >
    >
    >


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