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Old 25-08-2007
Martin
 
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Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
(on a local network)

Can anybody help me?

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Old 25-08-2007
P. Di Stolfo
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Hello,

I think this is impossible for Home editions of Vista:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929543/en-us

Greetings,
P. Di Stolfo
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>I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
> (on a local network)
>
> Can anybody help me?


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Old 25-08-2007
Carey Frisch [MVP]
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Joining a domain with a computer running Windows Vista
Home Premium is unsupported. You would need to
upgrade to Vista Ultimate in order to join a domain.

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
(on a local network)

Can anybody help me?
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Old 25-08-2007
Synapse Syndrome
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

"Martin" <Martin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
> (on a local network)
>


You need Business, Enterprise or Ultimate to connect to domains. The home
editions have reduced networking functionality.

ss.


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Old 25-08-2007
Meinolf Weber (Myweb)
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Hello Martin,

You need Businnes or Ultimate Version.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber (Myweb)
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.

> I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a
> domain (on a local network)
>
> Can anybody help me?
>



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Old 25-08-2007
Martin
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

I was told about a patch to connect it. The same happened years ago with XP
home edition.
If you know or hear about it, please let me know.

Regards
Martin

"P. Di Stolfo" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think this is impossible for Home editions of Vista:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929543/en-us
>
> Greetings,
> P. Di Stolfo
> --
> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> // http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language
> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Martin" <Martin@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:5A1A8FA9-6845-41D1-88F3-162C33831893@microsoft.com...
> >I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
> > (on a local network)
> >
> > Can anybody help me?

>

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  #7  
Old 25-08-2007
Carey Frisch [MVP]
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

There is no "patch". Upgrading to Vista Ultimate is
the only solution.

Upgrade to another edition of Windows Vista
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...93bb81033.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Martin" wrote:

I was told about a patch to connect it. The same happened years ago with XP
home edition.
If you know or hear about it, please let me know.

Regards
Martin
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Old 25-08-2007
Richard G. Harper
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

There is no "patch" to fix this, and there never was for Windows XP Home
Edition either. There was a fix that allowed Windows Media Center Edition
to join a domain but that worked only because Windows MCE is based on
Windows XP Professional, which can join a domain.

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>I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
> (on a local network)
>
> Can anybody help me?


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Old 25-11-2007
indivmed2008
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Carey--
I'm a Microsoft Professional myself and have a question--I have Vista Home
Premium Edition on a laptop (Gateway) and noticed that there are several
files and directories related to 'enterprise domain systems'--configuration
files like 'dcpromo', schema.ini, and manifest files related to group policy
configuration. Furthermore, if I reinstall my OS, over time, I find that I
begin seeing a "roaming" profile folder under users, cannot configure local
security policies (they are greyed out), and that several folders, even with
administrator privileges, cannot be accessed due to security errors--when I
attempt to edit the security tab, even some of these are greyed out so that I
cannot open them. I even have a sysprep folder under system32 which allows
me to run it under OOBE or audit conditions--which seems odd because I would
assume that OPK, Windows PE, sysprep would be left to the 'final' out of the
box experience for the first time an end user starts his computer with the
sysprep folder no longer being visible or being availalble for use. I ran
the microsoft's rootkit revealer and it went crazy--are all of these
"domain-related" files and "sysprep conditions" normal files available on the
vista home premium edition, even if that OS can't be used to join a domain
(much less becoming an NT server or a domain controller--I mean, dcpromo and
adprep?!?)...any help would be much appreciated as this is bothering me and
if there is a problem, I need to know so I can figure out how to fix it!!!!
Rick


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Joining a domain with a computer running Windows Vista
> Home Premium is unsupported. You would need to
> upgrade to Vista Ultimate in order to join a domain.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Martin" wrote:
>
> I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a domain
> (on a local network)
>
> Can anybody help me?
>

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  #10  
Old 25-11-2007
Rick Rogers
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Hi,

Yes, that is normal. The default install of each version is basically the
same in terms of user accounts and folder structure, it's just that the Home
versions lack the support necessary to join a domain.

As to the folders you cannot access, are you certain they are not simply the
junction points? These points, such as the "My...." folders are actually not
folders at all, but are simply there for backwards compatibility with older
software that expects those folders to be there. They serve as redirects to
the Vista versions of them. You cannot access the security tab, as there is
no such thing on these points.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"indivmed2008" <indivmed2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A6F58DED-CBC0-4E13-B58B-27C32397DAD1@microsoft.com...
> Carey--
> I'm a Microsoft Professional myself and have a question--I have Vista Home
> Premium Edition on a laptop (Gateway) and noticed that there are several
> files and directories related to 'enterprise domain
> systems'--configuration
> files like 'dcpromo', schema.ini, and manifest files related to group
> policy
> configuration. Furthermore, if I reinstall my OS, over time, I find that
> I
> begin seeing a "roaming" profile folder under users, cannot configure
> local
> security policies (they are greyed out), and that several folders, even
> with
> administrator privileges, cannot be accessed due to security errors--when
> I
> attempt to edit the security tab, even some of these are greyed out so
> that I
> cannot open them. I even have a sysprep folder under system32 which
> allows
> me to run it under OOBE or audit conditions--which seems odd because I
> would
> assume that OPK, Windows PE, sysprep would be left to the 'final' out of
> the
> box experience for the first time an end user starts his computer with the
> sysprep folder no longer being visible or being availalble for use. I ran
> the microsoft's rootkit revealer and it went crazy--are all of these
> "domain-related" files and "sysprep conditions" normal files available on
> the
> vista home premium edition, even if that OS can't be used to join a domain
> (much less becoming an NT server or a domain controller--I mean, dcpromo
> and
> adprep?!?)...any help would be much appreciated as this is bothering me
> and
> if there is a problem, I need to know so I can figure out how to fix
> it!!!!
> Rick
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Joining a domain with a computer running Windows Vista
>> Home Premium is unsupported. You would need to
>> upgrade to Vista Ultimate in order to join a domain.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Martin" wrote:
>>
>> I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a
>> domain
>> (on a local network)
>>
>> Can anybody help me?
>>


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  #11  
Old 25-11-2007
indivmed2008
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Hi--

Thank you so much for the response--I actually came across an article on
'junction points' in vista after I posted which clearly delineated how
userenv.dll creates them once sysprep finalizes (OOBE phase). I'm sure
Microsoft has good reason for the change, but for us network admins, this
will be a lot to keep straight--I can only imagine the extent to which LH
Server will offer us even more surprises since Server 03. I made the mistake
thinking that the Vista OS would be an improvement to XP, and was not
expecting junction points, hard links, soft links, etc.!

Thanks again...


"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, that is normal. The default install of each version is basically the
> same in terms of user accounts and folder structure, it's just that the Home
> versions lack the support necessary to join a domain.
>
> As to the folders you cannot access, are you certain they are not simply the
> junction points? These points, such as the "My...." folders are actually not
> folders at all, but are simply there for backwards compatibility with older
> software that expects those folders to be there. They serve as redirects to
> the Vista versions of them. You cannot access the security tab, as there is
> no such thing on these points.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "indivmed2008" <indivmed2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A6F58DED-CBC0-4E13-B58B-27C32397DAD1@microsoft.com...
> > Carey--
> > I'm a Microsoft Professional myself and have a question--I have Vista Home
> > Premium Edition on a laptop (Gateway) and noticed that there are several
> > files and directories related to 'enterprise domain
> > systems'--configuration
> > files like 'dcpromo', schema.ini, and manifest files related to group
> > policy
> > configuration. Furthermore, if I reinstall my OS, over time, I find that
> > I
> > begin seeing a "roaming" profile folder under users, cannot configure
> > local
> > security policies (they are greyed out), and that several folders, even
> > with
> > administrator privileges, cannot be accessed due to security errors--when
> > I
> > attempt to edit the security tab, even some of these are greyed out so
> > that I
> > cannot open them. I even have a sysprep folder under system32 which
> > allows
> > me to run it under OOBE or audit conditions--which seems odd because I
> > would
> > assume that OPK, Windows PE, sysprep would be left to the 'final' out of
> > the
> > box experience for the first time an end user starts his computer with the
> > sysprep folder no longer being visible or being availalble for use. I ran
> > the microsoft's rootkit revealer and it went crazy--are all of these
> > "domain-related" files and "sysprep conditions" normal files available on
> > the
> > vista home premium edition, even if that OS can't be used to join a domain
> > (much less becoming an NT server or a domain controller--I mean, dcpromo
> > and
> > adprep?!?)...any help would be much appreciated as this is bothering me
> > and
> > if there is a problem, I need to know so I can figure out how to fix
> > it!!!!
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Joining a domain with a computer running Windows Vista
> >> Home Premium is unsupported. You would need to
> >> upgrade to Vista Ultimate in order to join a domain.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carey Frisch
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "Martin" wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a
> >> domain
> >> (on a local network)
> >>
> >> Can anybody help me?
> >>

>
>

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  #12  
Old 25-11-2007
Rick Rogers
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

Hi,

Really, it is an improvement, particularly in the area of securty. Funny
though, the very things that you indicate as additional "headaches" are
those that are there for the backwards compatibility that so many insist on.
If it weren't for that, much of the junction points and links would not be
necessary at all.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"indivmed2008" <indivmed2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9464D622-60A3-4442-B9DB-8A5A5348ACD0@microsoft.com...
> Hi--
>
> Thank you so much for the response--I actually came across an article on
> 'junction points' in vista after I posted which clearly delineated how
> userenv.dll creates them once sysprep finalizes (OOBE phase). I'm sure
> Microsoft has good reason for the change, but for us network admins, this
> will be a lot to keep straight--I can only imagine the extent to which LH
> Server will offer us even more surprises since Server 03. I made the
> mistake
> thinking that the Vista OS would be an improvement to XP, and was not
> expecting junction points, hard links, soft links, etc.!
>
> Thanks again...
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, that is normal. The default install of each version is basically the
>> same in terms of user accounts and folder structure, it's just that the
>> Home
>> versions lack the support necessary to join a domain.
>>
>> As to the folders you cannot access, are you certain they are not simply
>> the
>> junction points? These points, such as the "My...." folders are actually
>> not
>> folders at all, but are simply there for backwards compatibility with
>> older
>> software that expects those folders to be there. They serve as redirects
>> to
>> the Vista versions of them. You cannot access the security tab, as there
>> is
>> no such thing on these points.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "indivmed2008" <indivmed2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A6F58DED-CBC0-4E13-B58B-27C32397DAD1@microsoft.com...
>> > Carey--
>> > I'm a Microsoft Professional myself and have a question--I have Vista
>> > Home
>> > Premium Edition on a laptop (Gateway) and noticed that there are
>> > several
>> > files and directories related to 'enterprise domain
>> > systems'--configuration
>> > files like 'dcpromo', schema.ini, and manifest files related to group
>> > policy
>> > configuration. Furthermore, if I reinstall my OS, over time, I find
>> > that
>> > I
>> > begin seeing a "roaming" profile folder under users, cannot configure
>> > local
>> > security policies (they are greyed out), and that several folders, even
>> > with
>> > administrator privileges, cannot be accessed due to security
>> > errors--when
>> > I
>> > attempt to edit the security tab, even some of these are greyed out so
>> > that I
>> > cannot open them. I even have a sysprep folder under system32 which
>> > allows
>> > me to run it under OOBE or audit conditions--which seems odd because I
>> > would
>> > assume that OPK, Windows PE, sysprep would be left to the 'final' out
>> > of
>> > the
>> > box experience for the first time an end user starts his computer with
>> > the
>> > sysprep folder no longer being visible or being availalble for use. I
>> > ran
>> > the microsoft's rootkit revealer and it went crazy--are all of these
>> > "domain-related" files and "sysprep conditions" normal files available
>> > on
>> > the
>> > vista home premium edition, even if that OS can't be used to join a
>> > domain
>> > (much less becoming an NT server or a domain controller--I mean,
>> > dcpromo
>> > and
>> > adprep?!?)...any help would be much appreciated as this is bothering me
>> > and
>> > if there is a problem, I need to know so I can figure out how to fix
>> > it!!!!
>> > Rick
>> >
>> >
>> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Joining a domain with a computer running Windows Vista
>> >> Home Premium is unsupported. You would need to
>> >> upgrade to Vista Ultimate in order to join a domain.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Carey Frisch
>> >> Microsoft MVP
>> >> Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> "Martin" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am not able to connect a new notebook with vista home edition to a
>> >> domain
>> >> (on a local network)
>> >>
>> >> Can anybody help me?
>> >>

>>
>>


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Old 25-11-2007
Chris Game
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:00:03 -0500, Rick Rogers wrote:

> Really, it is an improvement, particularly in the area of securty.
> Funny though, the very things that you indicate as additional
> "headaches" are those that are there for the backwards
> compatibility that so many insist on. If it weren't for that,
> much of the junction points and links would not be necessary at
> all.


Surely the main issue is that older program installers expect to
find these folders, and to be able to write to them.

--
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and I don't know why I'll do it again." -- Bart Simpson
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Old 25-11-2007
Chris Game
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:15:00 -0800, indivmed2008 wrote:

> Thank you so much for the response--I actually came across an
> article on 'junction points' in vista after I posted which
> clearly delineated how userenv.dll creates them once sysprep
> finalizes (OOBE phase).


Can you reference this please?

--
Chris Game

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mind, what's on yours?"
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Old 25-11-2007
Chris Game
 
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Re: Connect vista Home Edition to a Domain

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:57:34 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> Joining a domain with a computer running Windows Vista Home
> Premium is unsupported. You would need to upgrade to Vista
> Ultimate in order to join a domain.


He's not bothered about support, just wants to know how to do it!

--
Chris Game

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a big enough hammer." -- Sun System & Network Admin manual
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