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  1. #1
    Richard Fangnail Guest

    Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows XP
    CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.

    I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.

    I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!

  2. #2
    Richard Fangnail Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    I just found a thing called Create Factory Default Disk which is about
    8 G total, 3 DVDs.
    I'm wondering if there is a simple way to make one disk for rebooting
    if Vista gets messed up!

  3. #3
    Rick Rogers Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Hi,

    Not likely, your manufacturer has only provided for a set a of system
    recovery disks, not a boot disk.

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    "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote in message
    news:f44840ce-9790-4958-81fe-4d2792346bf4@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
    >I just found a thing called Create Factory Default Disk which is about
    > 8 G total, 3 DVDs.
    > I'm wondering if there is a simple way to make one disk for rebooting
    > if Vista gets messed up!



  4. #4
    Saucy Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Start > All Programs> Maintenance > Create a System Repair Disc

    Saucy



    "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote in message
    news:494677b3-8c61-4d67-b195-edd27032e599@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
    > When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows XP
    > CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    >
    > I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    >
    > I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    > computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    > emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!



  5. #5
    Bruce Chambers Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Richard Fangnail wrote:
    > I just found a thing called Create Factory Default Disk which is about
    > 8 G total, 3 DVDs.
    > I'm wondering if there is a simple way to make one disk for rebooting
    > if Vista gets messed up!



    It pretty much depends entirely upon the sort of Recovery options your
    computer's manufacturer has provided. It is possible for double layer
    DVDs to hold slightly over 8 GB of data, so you *might* be able to to
    use one of those to create a single Recovery disk. As always in a case
    such as yours, consult the computer manufacturer for specific details on
    supported Recovery options.


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  6. #6
    Dave-UK Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk


    "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message news:Ogx6zs0BKHA.4792@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Start > All Programs> Maintenance > Create a System Repair Disc
    >
    > Saucy
    >
    >


    That's only good for Windows 7, not Vista.




  7. #7
    Saucy Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Oh my goodness, yet another reason to move to Windows 7.

    Saucy


    "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote in message
    news:#XL9Xg5BKHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
    > news:Ogx6zs0BKHA.4792@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> Start > All Programs> Maintenance > Create a System Repair Disc
    >>
    >> Saucy
    >>
    >>

    >
    > That's only good for Windows 7, not Vista.
    >
    >
    >


  8. #8
    Saucy Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Well there's the Vista install disc, a boot disc with the Windows PE
    environment, and some manufacturers might create other types of discs.

    Some manufacturers prompt the owner of the new computer to back up the
    computer's image onto DVD-R - often this might take 3 discs. That's what you
    might be holding there, a back up image?

    I did some searching and the results were spotty. BartPE seems dated. The
    Microsoft how-to describes creating a recovery disc but it seems for
    embedded systems. The best bet seems to to be get your hands on a Vista
    disc. Or download an evaluation copy of Windows, it should have a boot
    environment you could use with Vista:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-software.aspx

    Saucy


    "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote in message
    news:494677b3-8c61-4d67-b195-edd27032e599@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
    > When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows XP
    > CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    >
    > I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    >
    > I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    > computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    > emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!



  9. #9
    Richard Fangnail Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Would a boot CD for Vista 64 be different from one for other Vista?

    I thought a boot disk was just a bootable disk with the most essential
    Windows files. Apparently, not any more.

  10. #10
    SIW2 Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk


    Hi Richard,

    It is possible to download a Vista recovery disc - you can boot that to
    get the repair options, but it doesn't contain the installation files.

    'Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    (http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/)

    You might be better downloading the RC of Windows 7. You would need to
    download the whole .iso.

    You could burn that to dvd with an isoburner - then boot to the
    recovery options.

    The Windows 7 recovery options work very well on on Vista - better than
    the Vista recovery options, in fact.

    You would need the same bit version as the Vista installation you wish
    to use them on.


    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx

    Hope it helps

    SIW2




    Richard Fangnail;1092455 Wrote:
    > When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows XP
    > CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    >
    > I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    >
    > I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    > computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    > emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!



    --
    SIW2

  11. #11
    Saucy Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    No, they're not the same. AFAICT, a 64-bit Vista DVD will *not* boot a
    computer that doesn't have a CPU that supports 64-bits. You would have to
    use the 32-bit Vista DVD to boot a 32-bit computer (known as x86).

    Saucy


    "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote in message
    news:7f136e57-4398-4b5c-bb53-0c49e1099503@y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
    > Would a boot CD for Vista 64 be different from one for other Vista?
    >
    > I thought a boot disk was just a bootable disk with the most essential
    > Windows files. Apparently, not any more.



  12. #12
    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Hi, SIW2.

    If you click the URL you included, you'll get the page that says, "Get
    Windows 7: Windows 7 RC" - but then it has this paragraph:

    "Sorry, the Windows 7 RC is no longer available for download. If you’ve got
    the download and need a product key, they’ll be available until October 21,
    2009."

    I don't recall exactly when RC downloads stopped; some time in August, I
    think.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@grandecom.net
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64


    "SIW2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:04ea6801fac826709d097f0f47e97c22@nntp-gateway.com...
    >
    > Hi Richard,
    >
    > It is possible to download a Vista recovery disc - you can boot that to
    > get the repair options, but it doesn't contain the installation files.
    >
    > 'Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    > (http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/)
    >
    > You might be better downloading the RC of Windows 7. You would need to
    > download the whole .iso.
    >
    > You could burn that to dvd with an isoburner - then boot to the
    > recovery options.
    >
    > The Windows 7 recovery options work very well on on Vista - better than
    > the Vista recovery options, in fact.
    >
    > You would need the same bit version as the Vista installation you wish
    > to use them on.
    >
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx
    >
    > Hope it helps
    >
    > SIW2
    >
    >
    > Richard Fangnail;1092455 Wrote:
    >> When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows XP
    >> CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    >>
    >> I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    >>
    >> I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    >> computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    >> emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!

    >
    >
    > --
    > SIW2



  13. #13
    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Ooop! Sorry, SIW2. I just now noticed the date on your post. Win7 RC WAS
    available then, but not now.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@grandecom.net
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

    "SIW2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:04ea6801fac826709d097f0f47e97c22@nntp-gateway.com...
    >
    > Hi Richard,
    >
    > It is possible to download a Vista recovery disc - you can boot that to
    > get the repair options, but it doesn't contain the installation files.
    >
    > 'Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    > (http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/)
    >
    > You might be better downloading the RC of Windows 7. You would need to
    > download the whole .iso.
    >
    > You could burn that to dvd with an isoburner - then boot to the
    > recovery options.
    >
    > The Windows 7 recovery options work very well on on Vista - better than
    > the Vista recovery options, in fact.
    >
    > You would need the same bit version as the Vista installation you wish
    > to use them on.
    >
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx
    >
    > Hope it helps
    >
    > SIW2
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Richard Fangnail;1092455 Wrote:
    >> When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows XP
    >> CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    >>
    >> I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    >>
    >> I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    >> computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    >> emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!

    >
    >
    > --
    > SIW2



  14. #14
    SIW2 Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk


    That's ok, RC.

    It is a good opportunity to post that the 7 recovery discs are now
    available for download - they contain the same system recovery options
    as the installation dvd:

    'Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    (http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/window...-repair-discs/)

    Torrent d/l - it is fast. For anyone who isn't sure how to use these:

    Burn the .iso to cd as an image. Boot the cd - Windows Loading Files -
    select your language and keyboard - Next - a screen appears saying
    Install now ( don't click that - the installation files are not on the
    cd). Instead click Repair My Computer at the bottom of that screen.




    R. C. White;1169392 Wrote:
    > Ooop! Sorry, SIW2. I just now noticed the date on your post. Win7 RC
    > WAS
    > available then, but not now.
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > rc@newsgroup
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
    >
    > "SIW2" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:04ea6801fac826709d097f0f47e97c22@newsgroup-gateway.com...> > >
    > > >
    > > > Hi Richard,
    > > >
    > > > It is possible to download a Vista recovery disc - you can boot that

    > > to
    > > > get the repair options, but it doesn't contain the installation

    > > files.
    > > >
    > > > 'Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    > > > ('Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'

    > > (http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...isc-download/))
    > > >
    > > > You might be better downloading the RC of Windows 7. You would need

    > > to
    > > > download the whole .iso.
    > > >
    > > > You could burn that to dvd with an isoburner - then boot to the
    > > > recovery options.
    > > >
    > > > The Windows 7 recovery options work very well on on Vista - better

    > > than
    > > > the Vista recovery options, in fact.
    > > >
    > > > You would need the same bit version as the Vista installation you

    > > wish
    > > > to use them on.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > 'Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) Download Is No Longer Available'

    > > (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx)
    > > >
    > > > Hope it helps
    > > >
    > > > SIW2
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Richard Fangnail;1092455 Wrote:> > > > >
    > > > >> When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a Windows
    > > > XP
    > > > >> CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    > > > >> computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    > > > >> emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!> > > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > SIW2 > >



    --
    SIW2

  15. #15
    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Vista "boot disk" or recovery disk

    Hi, SIW2.

    That's good to know. Since I switched from Win7 RC to RTM (thanks to MSDN)
    back in August, I haven't followed this subject closely. I'm just one guy
    with just one computer and don't support other users except in newsgroups,
    so I don't learn a lot about some of these things.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@grandecom.net
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

    "SIW2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:61b19301692abc630ad05209faaf9793@nntp-gateway.com...
    >
    > That's ok, RC.
    >
    > It is a good opportunity to post that the 7 recovery discs are now
    > available for download - they contain the same system recovery options
    > as the installation dvd:
    >
    > 'Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    > (http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/window...-repair-discs/)
    >
    > Torrent d/l - it is fast. For anyone who isn't sure how to use these:
    >
    > Burn the .iso to cd as an image. Boot the cd - Windows Loading Files -
    > select your language and keyboard - Next - a screen appears saying
    > Install now ( don't click that - the installation files are not on the
    > cd). Instead click Repair My Computer at the bottom of that screen.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > R. C. White;1169392 Wrote:
    >> Ooop! Sorry, SIW2. I just now noticed the date on your post. Win7 RC
    >> WAS
    >> available then, but not now.
    >>
    >> RC
    >>
    >> "SIW2" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
    >> news:04ea6801fac826709d097f0f47e97c22@newsgroup-gateway.com...> > >
    >> > >
    >> > > Hi Richard,
    >> > >
    >> > > It is possible to download a Vista recovery disc - you can boot that
    >> > to
    >> > > get the repair options, but it doesn't contain the installation
    >> > files.
    >> > >
    >> > > 'Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    >> > > ('Windows Vista Recovery Disc Download &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files'
    >> > (http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...isc-download/))
    >> > >
    >> > > You might be better downloading the RC of Windows 7. You would need
    >> > to
    >> > > download the whole .iso.
    >> > >
    >> > > You could burn that to dvd with an isoburner - then boot to the
    >> > > recovery options.
    >> > >
    >> > > The Windows 7 recovery options work very well on on Vista - better
    >> > than
    >> > > the Vista recovery options, in fact.
    >> > >
    >> > > You would need the same bit version as the Vista installation you
    >> > wish
    >> > > to use them on.
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > > 'Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) Download Is No Longer Available'
    >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx)
    >> > >
    >> > > Hope it helps
    >> > >
    >> > > SIW2
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > > Richard Fangnail;1092455 Wrote:> > > > >
    >> > > >> When I had XP, I had a startup problem so I rebooted with a
    >> > > >> Windows
    >> > > XP
    >> > > >> CD that came with the computer. It fixed it.
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> I'm not sure if this is called a boot or recovery disk, or both.
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> I was hoping to make a similar disk for my new Vista (Gateway)
    >> > > >> computer but I'm not sure how to do it. I read something about an
    >> > > >> emergency thing that takes up 3 DVDs!> > > > >
    >> > >
    >> > > --
    >> > > SIW2 > >

    >
    >
    > --
    > SIW2



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