PCLinuxOs...

I've said it many time before, and I'll say it again... nix ain't ready for
"Joe Normal."

Sorry, I forget the person who suggested I try PCLinuxOS, and, that said, I
d/l'd it today and installed it on a desktop. (Tried installing it on a
laptop with a wireless NIC, but, uh, no go?)

So I installed PCLOS, as it's called, on a desktop. Install went OK. Got to
the desktop fine. Where's the Network icon? None. How does one access the
local network? Ah, open "My Computer". Heh, heh, heh... then open "Remote
Places." Then open "Local Network", only to receive the msg "The Lisa daemon
does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN browser, the Lisa
daemon must be installed and activated by the system administrator."

Uh, OK... where does one go from here? (NOT looking for answers from nix
folks, it's a rhetorical question.)

Is it so hard to put a "Network" icon on the desktop?

Is it so hard to have that functionality be transparent to the user? Is the
"Joe Normal" user going to know how to log on as administrator and install
and activate the Lisa daemon? Uh, no?

OK... this may appear to be an attack on nix... it's not, believe me. Were
one to have the time to determine how to install and activate the Lisa
daemon... well, no issue, right? One can figure it out -eventually-, right?

And, of course, I'm not saying that Vista is "issue free." That said... when
I install Vista, I get a "Network" icon on the desktop that takes me right
to the stuff I'm tryng to access. No "install Lisa daemon" stuff...

So, yeah, Vista's not "issue free." We all know it, and I'd be a dope to
claim otherwise.

And I -am- most interested in trying different nix distros; ones that might
be considered "Joe Normal" friendly.

Have yet to discover -that- nix distro.

And, no, don't tell me Ubutnu. Been there, done that.

Lang

Thanks for sharing.

In addition, mainstream users buy computers as a "solution" just like other
products, and they don't want nor have the interest to do DIY needless to
say to install a new OS or switch to a new OS.

Linux are for techies because they never want to userstand mainsteam users,
and they have no idea about what is "solution" or "offer". Over years, they
have been told countless times but they are too proud to take any others'
advises, and yet, they blame why people don't appreciate their works. LOL.

Using automobiles as an example, they are sales people for auto accessories
and parts, while the mainstream car owners want to buy a finished car.

My two cents.

"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:330D72CD-8EAC-42BC-8144-3C11E57ADC52@microsoft.com...
> I've said it many time before, and I'll say it again... nix ain't ready
> for "Joe Normal."
>
> Sorry, I forget the person who suggested I try PCLinuxOS, and, that said,
> I d/l'd it today and installed it on a desktop. (Tried installing it on a
> laptop with a wireless NIC, but, uh, no go?)
>
> So I installed PCLOS, as it's called, on a desktop. Install went OK. Got
> to the desktop fine. Where's the Network icon? None. How does one access
> the local network? Ah, open "My Computer". Heh, heh, heh... then open
> "Remote Places." Then open "Local Network", only to receive the msg "The
> Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN
> browser, the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system
> administrator."
>
> Uh, OK... where does one go from here? (NOT looking for answers from nix
> folks, it's a rhetorical question.)
>
> Is it so hard to put a "Network" icon on the desktop?
>
> Is it so hard to have that functionality be transparent to the user? Is
> the "Joe Normal" user going to know how to log on as administrator and
> install and activate the Lisa daemon? Uh, no?
>
> OK... this may appear to be an attack on nix... it's not, believe me. Were
> one to have the time to determine how to install and activate the Lisa
> daemon... well, no issue, right? One can figure it out -eventually-,
> right?
>
> And, of course, I'm not saying that Vista is "issue free." That said...
> when I install Vista, I get a "Network" icon on the desktop that takes me
> right to the stuff I'm tryng to access. No "install Lisa daemon" stuff...
>
> So, yeah, Vista's not "issue free." We all know it, and I'd be a dope to
> claim otherwise.
>
> And I -am- most interested in trying different nix distros; ones that
> might be considered "Joe Normal" friendly.
>
> Have yet to discover -that- nix distro.
>
> And, no, don't tell me Ubutnu. Been there, done that.
>
> Lang

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:23:05 -0400, Lang Murphy wrote:

> I've said it many time before, and I'll say it again... nix ain't ready for
> "Joe Normal."
>

We've been running Ubuntu Linux and RedHat Enterprise Linux on nine public
access internet computers at the local library for nearly two years. Zero
complaints. The patrons have easily adapted and find their needs are met
quite handily.