Windows Has Blocked Some Startup Programs

"Security" is the justification.

From http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367

<quote>
This issue occurs because a program or a service that has User Account
Control (UAC) restrictions tries to start during the Windows Vista startup
process or logon process. User Account Control is a set of infrastructure
technologies that helps prevent malicious programs, sometimes called
"malware," from damaging your computer. Software Explorer blocks programs or
services that require User Account Control confirmation.
</quote>

You can however configure the UAC as per your needs, using the Secpol.msc.
There is an option to elevate without prompting, but that lowers the
security.

--
Regards,

Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com


"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:unQvzWF0IHA.2084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> And the justification for having that kind of bug in release software
> would be what?
> If I spefically give a program permission to run at startup, and even go
> through the step of telling it to 'run as admin'; I shouldn't have to make
> it a scheduled task.
> While I appreciate knowing the workaround, I consider that a major flaw in
> this Alpha 2 release of Vista.
>
> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
> news:usxSMKF0IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> There is a proper solution to this problem, using Task Scheduler. See:
>> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/fi...programs-error
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>> The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
>> Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com
>>
>>
>> "Reveal which formula causing true result"
>> <Revealwhichformulacausingtrueresult@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:9286A6E9-D0CA-46F4-B3F8-B2BCA0B70B63@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andy Sweet [MSFT]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows Defender might be blocking the program.
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case: Click Start, click All Programs, click Windows
>>>> Defender,
>>>> click Tools, click Software Explorer.
>>>> Make sure the Category dropdown says Startup Programs, and click the
>>>> button
>>>> that says Show for all users.
>>>> In the left pane, highlight the program that's being blocked/disabled,
>>>> and
>>>> click Enable.
>>>>
>>>> Does that fix the problem?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Sweet
>>>> Windows User Assistance team
>>>> Microsoft Corporation
>>>>
>>>> ONLY ONE USER, ACCOUNTS NOT AN ISSUE. ENABLE BUTTON ALWAYS GRAY AND
>>>> DISABLED. NO ACCESS TO ANY CONTROL OVER STARTUP PROGRAMS.
>>
>>
>
>

I understand the concept, but that isn't the point.
When you go into the program properties and tell it to run as admin, and run
at startup, it should run at startup!
To be forced to set it as a scheduled task to work around the 'security' is
not acceptable. I consider it to be one of Vista's many flaws.
Stopping a program that the user specificly gives permission to run (by
ticking the 'run as admin' box) isn't security, it's a pain in the rectum.
If Vista's left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, they need to
cut them both off and use them as suppositories for the programmers.
For those who are required to make other people's computers work the way
THEY want them to, Vista is more than a challenge, it's a lost cause.
Believe it or not, many people don't want to have to deal with all the
garbage, they just want it to work!

"Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
news:usoT9xF0IHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Security" is the justification.
>
> From http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367
>
> <quote>
> This issue occurs because a program or a service that has User Account
> Control (UAC) restrictions tries to start during the Windows Vista startup
> process or logon process. User Account Control is a set of infrastructure
> technologies that helps prevent malicious programs, sometimes called
> "malware," from damaging your computer. Software Explorer blocks programs
> or services that require User Account Control confirmation.
> </quote>
>
> You can however configure the UAC as per your needs, using the Secpol.msc.
> There is an option to elevate without prompting, but that lowers the
> security.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
> The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
> Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com
>
>
> "Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:unQvzWF0IHA.2084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> And the justification for having that kind of bug in release software
>> would be what?
>> If I spefically give a program permission to run at startup, and even go
>> through the step of telling it to 'run as admin'; I shouldn't have to
>> make it a scheduled task.
>> While I appreciate knowing the workaround, I consider that a major flaw
>> in this Alpha 2 release of Vista.
>>
>> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
>> news:usxSMKF0IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> There is a proper solution to this problem, using Task Scheduler. See:
>>> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/fi...programs-error
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>>> The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
>>> Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Reveal which formula causing true result"
>>> <Revealwhichformulacausingtrueresult@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:9286A6E9-D0CA-46F4-B3F8-B2BCA0B70B63@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andy Sweet [MSFT]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Windows Defender might be blocking the program.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's the case: Click Start, click All Programs, click Windows
>>>>> Defender,
>>>>> click Tools, click Software Explorer.
>>>>> Make sure the Category dropdown says Startup Programs, and click the
>>>>> button
>>>>> that says Show for all users.
>>>>> In the left pane, highlight the program that's being blocked/disabled,
>>>>> and
>>>>> click Enable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that fix the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andy Sweet
>>>>> Windows User Assistance team
>>>>> Microsoft Corporation
>>>>>
>>>>> ONLY ONE USER, ACCOUNTS NOT AN ISSUE. ENABLE BUTTON ALWAYS GRAY AND
>>>>> DISABLED. NO ACCESS TO ANY CONTROL OVER STARTUP PROGRAMS.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I hear you. But consider this scenario: If a malware that is already present
in the system (running under "non-admin" token) creates a shortcut to a
malicious program and sets it to run as "administrator" (it's possible
programmatically) and place it in the Startup folder of the user account, it
would prove dangerous.

Vista can't know if the "Run as administrator" flag for a shortcut was
previously enabled by the user or enabled programmatically by a malware.

API to set "Run as administrator" flag on a shortcut file? - MSDN Forums:
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/sho...39749&siteid=1

--
Regards,

Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com


"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:OCdJ4jR0IHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I understand the concept, but that isn't the point.
> When you go into the program properties and tell it to run as admin, and
> run at startup, it should run at startup!
> To be forced to set it as a scheduled task to work around the 'security'
> is not acceptable. I consider it to be one of Vista's many flaws.
> Stopping a program that the user specificly gives permission to run (by
> ticking the 'run as admin' box) isn't security, it's a pain in the rectum.
> If Vista's left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, they need
> to cut them both off and use them as suppositories for the programmers.
> For those who are required to make other people's computers work the way
> THEY want them to, Vista is more than a challenge, it's a lost cause.
> Believe it or not, many people don't want to have to deal with all the
> garbage, they just want it to work!
>
> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
> news:usoT9xF0IHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Security" is the justification.
>>
>> From http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367
>>
>> <quote>
>> This issue occurs because a program or a service that has User Account
>> Control (UAC) restrictions tries to start during the Windows Vista
>> startup process or logon process. User Account Control is a set of
>> infrastructure technologies that helps prevent malicious programs,
>> sometimes called "malware," from damaging your computer. Software
>> Explorer blocks programs or services that require User Account Control
>> confirmation.
>> </quote>
>>
>> You can however configure the UAC as per your needs, using the
>> Secpol.msc. There is an option to elevate without prompting, but that
>> lowers the security.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>> The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
>> Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com
>>
>>
>> "Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
>> news:unQvzWF0IHA.2084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> And the justification for having that kind of bug in release software
>>> would be what?
>>> If I spefically give a program permission to run at startup, and even go
>>> through the step of telling it to 'run as admin'; I shouldn't have to
>>> make it a scheduled task.
>>> While I appreciate knowing the workaround, I consider that a major flaw
>>> in this Alpha 2 release of Vista.
>>>
>>> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
>>> news:usxSMKF0IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> There is a proper solution to this problem, using Task Scheduler. See:
>>>> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/fi...programs-error
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>>>> The Winhelponline Blog: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
>>>> Windows® Troubleshooting: http://www.winhelponline.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Reveal which formula causing true result"
>>>> <Revealwhichformulacausingtrueresult@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>> in message news:9286A6E9-D0CA-46F4-B3F8-B2BCA0B70B63@microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andy Sweet [MSFT]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Defender might be blocking the program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's the case: Click Start, click All Programs, click Windows
>>>>>> Defender,
>>>>>> click Tools, click Software Explorer.
>>>>>> Make sure the Category dropdown says Startup Programs, and click the
>>>>>> button
>>>>>> that says Show for all users.
>>>>>> In the left pane, highlight the program that's being
>>>>>> blocked/disabled, and
>>>>>> click Enable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does that fix the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andy Sweet
>>>>>> Windows User Assistance team
>>>>>> Microsoft Corporation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ONLY ONE USER, ACCOUNTS NOT AN ISSUE. ENABLE BUTTON ALWAYS GRAY AND
>>>>>> DISABLED. NO ACCESS TO ANY CONTROL OVER STARTUP PROGRAMS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>