Calculating time remaining

Is there a definitive answer to this problem? Like many people, my
system (vista home premium) takes a century to copy large files. First,
the File Copy dialog just sits there with title "Calculating time
remaining". Then, it gets going and copies the file in about 10-20 times
what it had taken XP.

I've tried copying files from command line using xcopy and robocopy,
with same sad results, which leads me to believe that the problem is in
the API.

I've read a half dozen forum threads, all with questions, none with answers.

Does anyone know anything regarding this issue?

MS know about this and is working on a proper fix. Why it is taking so
unbelievably long I've no idea.

Meanwhile, there is a hotfix somewhere on the MS site, but as always it
isn't as fully tested as a service pack so there is a risk in using it.

Can anyone provide a URL for the hotfix?

Steve

"Steve Thackery" <thack@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:etlCJOdoHHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> MS know about this and is working on a proper fix. Why it is taking so
> unbelievably long I've no idea.
>
> Meanwhile, there is a hotfix somewhere on the MS site, but as always it
> isn't as fully tested as a service pack so there is a risk in using it.
>
> Can anyone provide a URL for the hotfix?
>
> Steve
>


99 times out of 100 when I've seen that message, it's been accompanied by a
100% cpu usage by another process.

So I suspect the problem runs deeper than just the symptomatic display of a
'Calculating time remaining' dialog. Hence I'd be extremely cynical of any
hotfix that didn't simultaneously resolve the cpu usage problem with the
other processes at the same time (other than its being an excuse to make
money out of a few more support calls)

--
Jon

On Mon, 28 May 2007 23:28:36 -0700, Frank Rizzo <none@none.net> wrote:

>Is there a definitive answer to this problem? Like many people, my
>system (vista home premium) takes a century to copy large files. First,
>the File Copy dialog just sits there with title "Calculating time
>remaining". Then, it gets going and copies the file in about 10-20 times
>what it had taken XP.
>
>I've tried copying files from command line using xcopy and robocopy,
>with same sad results, which leads me to believe that the problem is in
>the API.
>
>I've read a half dozen forum threads, all with questions, none with answers.
>
>Does anyone know anything regarding this issue?


This is one of those issues the fanboys club loves to pretend is
"fixed" but it isn't really. A couple months back I wrote a detailed
post on how it can be resolved for some people. In typical fashion
Microsoft has been dragging their feet on this and pretends it only
effects a handful of people or that it is limited to network
situations.

Not so. You can bypass the usual Microsoft BS and get the hotfix
directly from the first link below. The reference is KB931770.

http://thehotfixshare.net/download/i...Neutral/Vista/

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931770

The REAL reason which of course Microsoft denies seems to be due to
how they have bowed down to Hollywood to incorporate DMR which under
some conditions has severely impacted file actions in Vista. There are
many lengthily articles on this scattered across the web.

One of the longest is from Microsoft's own TechNet. To say that people
are pissed-off about this is a gross understatement.

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...8057&SiteID=17

Microsoft FIX this damn problem now!

Adam Albright wrote:

> This is one of those issues the fanboys club loves to pretend is
> "fixed" but it isn't really. A couple months back I wrote a detailed
> post on how it can be resolved for some people.

Adam, can you point me to your write-up?


> Not so. You can bypass the usual Microsoft BS and get the hotfix
> directly from the first link below. The reference is KB931770.
>
> http://thehotfixshare.net/download/i...Neutral/Vista/

So does this hotfix actually fix the problem?

Regards


>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931770
>
> The REAL reason which of course Microsoft denies seems to be due to
> how they have bowed down to Hollywood to incorporate DMR which under
> some conditions has severely impacted file actions in Vista. There are
> many lengthily articles on this scattered across the web.
>
> One of the longest is from Microsoft's own TechNet. To say that people
> are pissed-off about this is a gross understatement.
>
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...8057&SiteID=17
>
> Microsoft FIX this damn problem now!
>

Thanks for the link.

I installed the "hotfix" & the problem seems to be gone, but I haven't had
enough time to test it thoroughly yet.


--
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most!
"Frank Rizzo" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:uYYiWlgoHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Adam Albright wrote:
>
>> This is one of those issues the fanboys club loves to pretend is
>> "fixed" but it isn't really. A couple months back I wrote a detailed
>> post on how it can be resolved for some people.
>
> Adam, can you point me to your write-up?
>
>
>> Not so. You can bypass the usual Microsoft BS and get the hotfix
>> directly from the first link below. The reference is KB931770.
>>
>> http://thehotfixshare.net/download/i...Neutral/Vista/
>
> So does this hotfix actually fix the problem?
>
> Regards
>
>
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931770
>>
>> The REAL reason which of course Microsoft denies seems to be due to
>> how they have bowed down to Hollywood to incorporate DMR which under
>> some conditions has severely impacted file actions in Vista. There are
>> many lengthily articles on this scattered across the web.
>>
>> One of the longest is from Microsoft's own TechNet. To say that people
>> are pissed-off about this is a gross understatement.
>>
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...8057&SiteID=17
>>
>> Microsoft FIX this damn problem now!
>>

"Fred B." wrote
> Thanks for the link.
>
> I installed the "hotfix" & the problem seems to be gone, but I haven't had
> enough time to test it thoroughly yet.

<snip>

It's not a good idea to get hot fixes from anywhere but MS.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:32:37 -0700, "Fred B."
<trash01NoSpam@mindvacant.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the link.
>
>I installed the "hotfix" & the problem seems to be gone, but I haven't had
>enough time to test it thoroughly yet.

I installed it too, worked for awhile, now the same problem comes and
goes. Very strange bug that Microsoft is keeping quite about. Curious.
Many have said if they use a different shell they have no problem
moving files around and speeds are equal to or faster then under XP.

I don't have problems either using BounceBack which is my backup
software. It literally can take tens of gigabytes at a single gulp and
copy them in a few minutes. So it seems just another Microsoft foul up
they aren't admitting to.

Fred B. wrote:
> Thanks for the link.
>
> I installed the "hotfix" & the problem seems to be gone, but I haven't
> had enough time to test it thoroughly yet.

I installed it and the problem is still there. I've actually debugged
the problem and posted my finding in a new thread.