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  1. #1
    Wayne L. Guest

    Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    In an effort to save HD space ( I'm losing 1 GB every few days, and System
    Restore is gaining 2), I'm trying to get rid of excess baggage.

    In Computer - Program Files, it steadfastly refuses to be deleted. Says I
    need permission! From whom; my mother?

    It uses 2 MBs and I have no use for it. Computer also will not give up the
    remains of Quick Time even after being disabled long ago.
    -- Any help?
    Thanks



    Wayne L.

  2. #2
    brink Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.


    Hi Wayne,

    Windows Movie Maker is considered a system program by Vista and will
    not let you delete it.

    To clean up some of those system restores:
    1. open disk Cleanup & wait until it opens completely
    2. click on More Options tab
    3. click on the Clean Up button under the System restore and Shadow
    Copies area

    OR just disable System restore if you don't want it.

    Might check to see what is creating so many Restore points. It's
    usually some Utility app that is making system changes and first make a
    restore before doing what it does. (Ex: Regcleaners)

    Did you use the Uninstaller for Quicktime?

    Hope this helps some,
    Shawn


    --
    brink

    "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    Vista 64 Home Premium
    1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

  3. #3
    Wayne L. Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Thanks for the quick reply. Guess I'm stuck with MM, huh.
    Have been using cleanup and defragment, and have had to use S. Restore to
    eradicate a Trojan that AVG let through - twice, so disabling is out. I've
    switched to Avast and my machine is running much quieter. Is there a
    connection?
    -- QuickTime was not in the uninstall list in Control Panel. I can't
    remember why or how it disappeared, but it's gone; except for a trace in
    Programs that sticks.
    URGE likewise went away on its own; to be replaced with Media Centre. I can
    live with that.
    Without fully understanding what System Restore is I know that it has 35 GBs
    out of 50 GBs total HD usage.
    Following "Fix it Geek's" advice on reducing S.R. usage to 10 GBs, I again
    found that I'm not allowed to - Invalid Request.
    All I can do is watch Gigs vanish on my already underpowered 238 GB computer.
    Ps - It rates 2 on the performance chart and can't run AERO. Remember Dell
    and spread the word.
    Thanks for your post, Wayne.


    Wayne L.


    "brink" wrote:

    >
    > Hi Wayne,
    >
    > Windows Movie Maker is considered a system program by Vista and will
    > not let you delete it.
    >
    > To clean up some of those system restores:
    > 1. open disk Cleanup & wait until it opens completely
    > 2. click on More Options tab
    > 3. click on the Clean Up button under the System restore and Shadow
    > Copies area
    >
    > OR just disable System restore if you don't want it.
    >
    > Might check to see what is creating so many Restore points. It's
    > usually some Utility app that is making system changes and first make a
    > restore before doing what it does. (Ex: Regcleaners)
    >
    > Did you use the Uninstaller for Quicktime?
    >
    > Hope this helps some,
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > brink
    >
    > "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    > Vista 64 Home Premium
    > 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM
    >


  4. #4
    brink Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.


    Wayne L.;310825 Wrote:
    > Thanks for the quick reply. Guess I'm stuck with MM, huh.
    > Have been using cleanup and defragment, and have had to use S. Restore
    > to eradicate a Trojan that AVG let through - twice, so disabling is out.
    > I've switched to Avast and my machine is running much quieter. Is there
    > a
    > connection?
    > -- QuickTime was not in the uninstall list in Control Panel. I can't
    > remember why or how it disappeared, but it's gone; except for a trace
    > in
    > Programs that sticks.
    > URGE likewise went away on its own; to be replaced with Media Centre. I
    > can
    > live with that.
    > Without fully understanding what System Restore is I know that it has
    > 35 GBs
    > out of 50 GBs total HD usage.
    > Following "Fix it Geek's" advice on reducing S.R. usage to 10 GBs, I
    > again
    > found that I'm not allowed to - Invalid Request.
    > All I can do is watch Gigs vanish on my already underpowered 238 GB
    > computer.
    > Ps - It rates 2 on the performance chart and can't run AERO. Remember
    > Dell
    > and spread the word.
    > Thanks for your post, Wayne.
    >
    >
    > Wayne L.
    >

    Hi Wayne,

    No connection that I know of with AVG. You definetaly have something
    that's creating a bunch of system restores. You may need to hunt
    through any program you have running in the background. Plus, you might
    try disabling System Restore to see if a program throws a fit to ID it,
    then reenable it. Bonus, disabling will delete all system restores.

    Here's a link that will tell you everything about Sytem Restore :

    '_http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/search.aspx?=&qu=system+restore_'
    (http://tinyurl.com/227zhe)

    Shawn


    --
    brink

    "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    Vista 64 Home Premium
    1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

  5. #5
    Wayne L. Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Looked at the link you gave. It appears I'm at the 15% SR usage. In Restore
    Centre couldn't find info on Restore Points, but remember once seeing it.
    Where the hell is it?
    As I looked in Restore Centre just now it had the current time/date as the
    latest point. Is that significant?
    As stated earlier, going through the involved Vssadmin route, I'm not
    allowed resetting, so any help with finding this running program you
    mentioned would help.
    Possibly a website? Thanks, Wayne.
    --



    Wayne L.


    "brink" wrote:

    >
    > Wayne L.;310825 Wrote:
    > > Thanks for the quick reply. Guess I'm stuck with MM, huh.
    > > Have been using cleanup and defragment, and have had to use S. Restore
    > > to eradicate a Trojan that AVG let through - twice, so disabling is out.
    > > I've switched to Avast and my machine is running much quieter. Is there
    > > a
    > > connection?
    > > -- QuickTime was not in the uninstall list in Control Panel. I can't
    > > remember why or how it disappeared, but it's gone; except for a trace
    > > in
    > > Programs that sticks.
    > > URGE likewise went away on its own; to be replaced with Media Centre. I
    > > can
    > > live with that.
    > > Without fully understanding what System Restore is I know that it has
    > > 35 GBs
    > > out of 50 GBs total HD usage.
    > > Following "Fix it Geek's" advice on reducing S.R. usage to 10 GBs, I
    > > again
    > > found that I'm not allowed to - Invalid Request.
    > > All I can do is watch Gigs vanish on my already underpowered 238 GB
    > > computer.
    > > Ps - It rates 2 on the performance chart and can't run AERO. Remember
    > > Dell
    > > and spread the word.
    > > Thanks for your post, Wayne.
    > >
    > >
    > > Wayne L.
    > >

    > Hi Wayne,
    >
    > No connection that I know of with AVG. You definetaly have something
    > that's creating a bunch of system restores. You may need to hunt
    > through any program you have running in the background. Plus, you might
    > try disabling System Restore to see if a program throws a fit to ID it,
    > then reenable it. Bonus, disabling will delete all system restores.
    >
    > Here's a link that will tell you everything about Sytem Restore :
    >
    > '_http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/search.aspx?=&qu=system+restore_'
    > (http://tinyurl.com/227zhe)
    >
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > brink
    >
    > "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    > Vista 64 Home Premium
    > 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM
    >


  6. #6
    pinp1986@yahoo.com Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Did you right click when you hit Command Prompt so you can Run As
    Administrator?


  7. #7
    MICHAEL Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    You could manually set the size of your restore points so
    that they don't grow too large.

    Have a look at these sites:

    http://jimiz.net/blog/2007/02/15/vis...e-preferences/

    http://weblog.infoworld.com/stratdev...restore_1.html

    http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/25/cha...-windows-vista


    -Michael

    * Wayne L.:
    > In an effort to save HD space ( I'm losing 1 GB every few days, and System
    > Restore is gaining 2), I'm trying to get rid of excess baggage.
    >
    > In Computer - Program Files, it steadfastly refuses to be deleted. Says I
    > need permission! From whom; my mother?
    >
    > It uses 2 MBs and I have no use for it. Computer also will not give up the
    > remains of Quick Time even after being disabled long ago.
    > -- Any help?
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    >
    > Wayne L.


  8. #8
    Wayne L. Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Thanks for your efforts everyone, but I still get "Invalid Request" at the
    final stage where I enter MAXSIZE= Thinking it might be case sentitive I
    enter it exact.and have tried various GB sizes. No go!
    Since I'm now at maximum size - 35GB - guess I can stop worrying about it.
    Can anyone tell me where to go in S.R. in Control Panel to view restore
    points?
    -- Thanks again



    Wayne L.


    "MICHAEL" wrote:

    > You could manually set the size of your restore points so
    > that they don't grow too large.
    >
    > Have a look at these sites:
    >
    > http://jimiz.net/blog/2007/02/15/vis...e-preferences/
    >
    > http://weblog.infoworld.com/stratdev...restore_1.html
    >
    > http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/25/cha...-windows-vista
    >
    >
    > -Michael
    >
    > * Wayne L.:
    > > In an effort to save HD space ( I'm losing 1 GB every few days, and System
    > > Restore is gaining 2), I'm trying to get rid of excess baggage.
    > >
    > > In Computer - Program Files, it steadfastly refuses to be deleted. Says I
    > > need permission! From whom; my mother?
    > >
    > > It uses 2 MBs and I have no use for it. Computer also will not give up the
    > > remains of Quick Time even after being disabled long ago.
    > > -- Any help?
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Wayne L.

    >


  9. #9
    MICHAEL Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Did you use an elevated command prompt? Right click
    CMD.exe and under the Compatibility tab select
    "Run as administrator".

    Copy and paste the command below into the CMD window.
    If you want to put in a different size, that's fine.

    vssadmin resize shadowstorage /On=C: /For=C: /Maxsize=1.5GB


    -Michael

    * Wayne L.:
    > Thanks for your efforts everyone, but I still get "Invalid Request" at the
    > final stage where I enter MAXSIZE= Thinking it might be case sentitive I
    > enter it exact.and have tried various GB sizes. No go!
    > Since I'm now at maximum size - 35GB - guess I can stop worrying about it.
    > Can anyone tell me where to go in S.R. in Control Panel to view restore
    > points?
    > -- Thanks again
    >
    >
    >
    > Wayne L.
    >
    >
    > "MICHAEL" wrote:
    >
    >> You could manually set the size of your restore points so
    >> that they don't grow too large.
    >>
    >> Have a look at these sites:
    >>
    >> http://jimiz.net/blog/2007/02/15/vis...e-preferences/
    >>
    >> http://weblog.infoworld.com/stratdev...restore_1.html
    >>
    >> http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/25/cha...-windows-vista
    >>
    >>
    >> -Michael
    >>
    >> * Wayne L.:
    >>> In an effort to save HD space ( I'm losing 1 GB every few days, and System
    >>> Restore is gaining 2), I'm trying to get rid of excess baggage.
    >>>
    >>> In Computer - Program Files, it steadfastly refuses to be deleted. Says I
    >>> need permission! From whom; my mother?
    >>>
    >>> It uses 2 MBs and I have no use for it. Computer also will not give up the
    >>> remains of Quick Time even after being disabled long ago.
    >>> -- Any help?
    >>> Thanks
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Wayne L.


  10. #10
    brink Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.


    Wayne L.;311448 Wrote:
    > Thanks for your efforts everyone, but I still get "Invalid Request" at
    > the
    > final stage where I enter MAXSIZE= Thinking it might be case sentitive
    > I
    > enter it exact.and have tried various GB sizes. No go!
    > Since I'm now at maximum size - 35GB - guess I can stop worrying about
    > it.
    > Can anyone tell me where to go in S.R. in Control Panel to view restore
    > points?
    > -- Thanks again
    >
    >
    >
    > Wayne L.
    >


    Hi Wyane L.

    Yes, no problem. Sorry it didn't work. Here's the location in Control
    Panel:

    1. open Control Panel
    2. click on Backup and Restore Center
    3. They should all be listed under the *Restore* *Files* section

    Shawn


    --
    brink

    "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    Vista 64 Home Premium
    1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

  11. #11
    Wayne L. Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Thanks for the sites, Michael. What I tried to say was that I went that
    route. It isn't working for me.
    Brink - All I get is my last R. point. This morning. I now understand that
    it occurs at least daily and at all events - according to all the sites. My
    Restore is at Max - 35 out of 238 GBs - so we can rest on this now.
    Thanks, Wayne
    --



    Wayne L.


    "brink" wrote:

    >
    > Wayne L.;311448 Wrote:
    > > Thanks for your efforts everyone, but I still get "Invalid Request" at
    > > the
    > > final stage where I enter MAXSIZE= Thinking it might be case sentitive
    > > I
    > > enter it exact.and have tried various GB sizes. No go!
    > > Since I'm now at maximum size - 35GB - guess I can stop worrying about
    > > it.
    > > Can anyone tell me where to go in S.R. in Control Panel to view restore
    > > points?
    > > -- Thanks again
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Wayne L.
    > >

    >
    > Hi Wyane L.
    >
    > Yes, no problem. Sorry it didn't work. Here's the location in Control
    > Panel:
    >
    > 1. open Control Panel
    > 2. click on Backup and Restore Center
    > 3. They should all be listed under the *Restore* *Files* section
    >
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > brink
    >
    > "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    > Vista 64 Home Premium
    > 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM
    >


  12. #12
    brink Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.


    Wayne L.;311545 Wrote:
    > Thanks for the sites, Michael. What I tried to say was that I went that
    > route. It isn't working for me.
    > Brink - All I get is my last R. point. This morning. I now understand
    > that
    > it occurs at least daily and at all events - according to all the
    > sites. My
    > Restore is at Max - 35 out of 238 GBs - so we can rest on this now.
    > Thanks, Wayne
    > --
    > Wayne L.
    >


    Ok Wayne,

    Then that would be the only one you have then. In my opinion, since
    it's giving you so much trouble, I would disable system Restore. You
    can always do a manual back-up. Here's how to disable it :

    1. open Control Panel
    2. click on System
    3. click on Advanced System Settings (in left area)
    4. click on System Protection tab
    5. uncheck the box for your local disk
    6. click apply
    7. say OK when it asks "This will delete all restore points. Are you
    sure?"
    8. click OK to exit window

    Shawn


    --
    brink

    "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    Vista 64 Home Premium
    1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

  13. #13
    Wayne L. Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    Followed instructions, disabled S.R., and saw C drive regain 34 GB.
    Hopefully, setting a manual restore point when needed will suffice if another
    virus strikes.
    To get back to what started this thread - can I get rid of Movie Maker? Thanks
    --



    Wayne L.


    "brink" wrote:

    >
    > Wayne L.;311545 Wrote:
    > > Thanks for the sites, Michael. What I tried to say was that I went that
    > > route. It isn't working for me.
    > > Brink - All I get is my last R. point. This morning. I now understand
    > > that
    > > it occurs at least daily and at all events - according to all the
    > > sites. My
    > > Restore is at Max - 35 out of 238 GBs - so we can rest on this now.
    > > Thanks, Wayne
    > > --
    > > Wayne L.
    > >

    >
    > Ok Wayne,
    >
    > Then that would be the only one you have then. In my opinion, since
    > it's giving you so much trouble, I would disable system Restore. You
    > can always do a manual back-up. Here's how to disable it :
    >
    > 1. open Control Panel
    > 2. click on System
    > 3. click on Advanced System Settings (in left area)
    > 4. click on System Protection tab
    > 5. uncheck the box for your local disk
    > 6. click apply
    > 7. say OK when it asks "This will delete all restore points. Are you
    > sure?"
    > 8. click OK to exit window
    >
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > brink
    >
    > "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    > Vista 64 Home Premium
    > 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM
    >


  14. #14
    brink Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.


    Wayne L.;311772 Wrote:
    > Followed instructions, disabled S.R., and saw C drive regain 34 GB.
    > Hopefully, setting a manual restore point when needed will suffice if
    > another
    > virus strikes.
    > To get back to what started this thread - can I get rid of Movie Maker?
    > Thanks
    > --
    >
    >
    >
    > Wayne L.
    >
    >


    Hi Wayne,

    In _Avast_Anti-Virus_ there is a thing called *VRDB* (Virus Recovery
    Database). Right click the *I* Icon, or *A* if you mereged them, to see
    the options. Click the *Generate VRDB now* option every once in a while
    (depending on how much you change your system around) to allow Avast to
    be able to restore your system in case a Virus gets in. You'll see more
    options to set it to run automatically according to the options you
    pick.

    Regards,
    Shawn


    --
    brink

    "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    Vista 64 Home Premium
    1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM

  15. #15
    Wayne L. Guest

    Re: Can't delete Movie Maker in Vista.

    When first setting up Avast I did select "when screen saver is running". With
    your post I now see what it is and why.
    To go back to System Restore - If I know exactly the time I want to go back
    to; is manually setting that point as effective as if it were done
    automatically.
    In other words did I jeopardize my computer by disabling SR?
    I'm a novice - less than 2 months at a computer. With people like you life
    is much easier. Thanks very much, Wayne
    --



    Wayne L.


    "brink" wrote:

    >
    > Wayne L.;311772 Wrote:
    > > Followed instructions, disabled S.R., and saw C drive regain 34 GB.
    > > Hopefully, setting a manual restore point when needed will suffice if
    > > another
    > > virus strikes.
    > > To get back to what started this thread - can I get rid of Movie Maker?
    > > Thanks
    > > --
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Wayne L.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Hi Wayne,
    >
    > In _Avast_Anti-Virus_ there is a thing called *VRDB* (Virus Recovery
    > Database). Right click the *I* Icon, or *A* if you mereged them, to see
    > the options. Click the *Generate VRDB now* option every once in a while
    > (depending on how much you change your system around) to allow Avast to
    > be able to restore your system in case a Virus gets in. You'll see more
    > options to set it to run automatically according to the options you
    > pick.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > brink
    >
    > "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
    > Vista 64 Home Premium
    > 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM
    >


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