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Old 09-05-2007
GT
 
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How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
buying any software that can create a partition.

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Old 09-05-2007
James Moffitt
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

My experience is that most versions of Windows does not like to share the
MBR with any other OS. You can try using Partition Magic to create a new
partition with some of the free space and install Linux to that partition.
Other than that I dont think it will be possible. Ok , that is my two
cents, good luck to you.

"GT" <GT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
> buying any software that can create a partition.



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Old 09-05-2007
ray
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:24:02 -0700, GT wrote:

> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
> buying any software that can create a partition.


Yes. Boot the ubunutu CD and start the install. You will be presented with
a tool to resize and repartition. (You should defrag MS first, though.)
Proceed with the install and Ubuntu will set up the dual boot
automagically.


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Old 09-05-2007
ray
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

On Wed, 09 May 2007 11:28:41 -0400, James Moffitt wrote:

> My experience is that most versions of Windows does not like to share the
> MBR with any other OS. You can try using Partition Magic to create a new
> partition with some of the free space and install Linux to that partition.
> Other than that I dont think it will be possible. Ok , that is my two
> cents, good luck to you.


My experience has been that you boot the Linux install disk and proceed
with the onscreen instructions. I did that not too long ago on a new
computer from WM I was setting up for my wife. It came with xp. Ubuntu
repartitioned and set up the dual boot automagically.


>
> "GT" <GT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C2C12A8C-D8D6-49E9-AD55-3ABE7A4B5938@microsoft.com...
>> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
>> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
>> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
>> buying any software that can create a partition.



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Old 09-05-2007
Leythos
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista alreadyinstalled

On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:24:02 -0700, GT wrote:
>
> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
> don't want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can
> i do it without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or
> without buying any software that can create a partition.


Purchase a spare drive, remove the Vista one, install the new one,
install Linux - swap drives when you want to run the other OS.

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Old 09-05-2007
Chris Barnes
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

GT wrote:
> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
> buying any software that can create a partition.



Install VMWare, then run Ubuntu in a VM.

Note: this has the advantage that if you need to move your Ubuntu
install to a different machine, you simply install VMWare on that other
machine, and move the vmware image to that other machine. Reboot and
walla - the linux system is just like you left it.


PS: I run VMWare on ALL of my servers - and all of the mission critical
services are run on virtual machines. This means if we have a critical
hardware failure, our time to being back up is very, very small.

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Old 10-05-2007
Doris Day - MFB
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

GT wrote:

> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
> buying any software that can create a partition.


Yep, no problem. Just bootup your Ubuntu LiveCD and when you get to the
desktop, click on the Install icon. Away it goes. It'll resize your Fista
partition, leaving room to automatically install Ubuntu. It'll install GRUB
which will then let you select which operating system you wish to boot. I
use the term "operating system" rather loosely in this regards. Windoze is
hardly an operating system of any merit.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

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Old 10-05-2007
Doris Day - MFB
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

Chris Barnes wrote:

> GT wrote:
>> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
>> don't want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i
>> do it without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or
>> without buying any software that can create a partition.

>
>
> Install VMWare, then run Ubuntu in a VM.
>
> Note: this has the advantage that if you need to move your Ubuntu
> install to a different machine, you simply install VMWare on that other
> machine, and move the vmware image to that other machine. Reboot and
> walla - the linux system is just like you left it.
>
>
> PS: I run VMWare on ALL of my servers - and all of the mission critical
> services are run on virtual machines. This means if we have a critical
> hardware failure, our time to being back up is very, very small.
>

Actually, I'd do the the reverse. XP runs faster in a vm on a Linux host
than it does on real metal. Why? Because Linux is just so much more
capable.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

--
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Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl




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Old 10-05-2007
Doris Day - MFB
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

James Moffitt wrote:

> My experience is that most versions of Windows does not like to share the
> MBR with any other OS. You can try using Partition Magic to create a new
> partition with some of the free space and install Linux to that partition.
> Other than that I dont think it will be possible. Ok , that is my two
> cents, good luck to you.
>

So much from the 2 cents from the peanut gallery. Don't use Partition Magic!
Let Ubuntu handle the install/repartitioning.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

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Old 10-05-2007
Chris Barnes
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

Doris Day - MFB wrote:
> Actually, I'd do the the reverse. XP runs faster in a vm on a Linux host
> than it does on real metal. Why? Because Linux is just so much more
> capable.



It all depends on which is your "main" OS. That's the one that should
be running native.

kisses back to you,

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Old 10-05-2007
Frank
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

Doris Day - MFB wrote:

Why? Because Linux is just so much more
> capable.
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>

Statements like that really expose your ignorance and show what a fool
your are.
And you do it all the time.
(snort)
Frank

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Old 10-05-2007
Frank Bright
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

I'm late coming in here, but Ah-hum,...I've done this, so I know it can
work.
I did it last night actually. I already had Vista running on my gateway
laptop and wanted to
set up a dual boot with Ubuntu.

(Note to Vista forum: Pardon these references to Ubuntu, but this process is
also very informative on using newer Vista capabilities in setting up
partitions)

Ironies of ironies: A nice fellow on the Ubuntu forum strictly warned me NOT
to let Ubuntu do the partitioning, but to let Vista do it. So do it ahead of
time. And it worked for me. Here's how...

In Vista, Right-Click on My Computer, choose 'Manage'. Click 'Disk
Management'. There you can set up partitions, delete them, extend or shrink
volumes of existing ones (NTFSs only).
You'll need at least 3 partitions, one for Vista, one as a Swap, and one for
Ubuntu. But there's no need to format the Ubuntu partition
nor the swap partition, since you can easily manage the Ubuntu Install to do
that. And anyways, you're going to want to let the Ubuntu Install format its
partition as an 'Ext3' format.

- Your Ubuntu partition needs to be only 1.5 to 2 GB in size to work
- The Swap partitions needs (if memory serves, pun intended) only 256 MB of
space.
Set up your mounts as follows during the install: Your Root upon which
Ubuntu is installed gets a '/' mount - swap I think gets a "/swap" mount
and Vista gets "/windows"

After the setup, upon restarting, Vista will automatically bring up a boot
menu, giving you a choice of which OS to boot up with.
Good Luck, Frank




"Doris Day - MFB" <snort@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1178745356.250027@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
> GT wrote:
>
>> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
>> don't
>> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
>> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
>> buying any software that can create a partition.

>
> Yep, no problem. Just bootup your Ubuntu LiveCD and when you get to the
> desktop, click on the Install icon. Away it goes. It'll resize your Fista
> partition, leaving room to automatically install Ubuntu. It'll install
> GRUB
> which will then let you select which operating system you wish to boot. I
> use the term "operating system" rather loosely in this regards. Windoze is
> hardly an operating system of any merit.
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>
> --
> My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ... http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
> Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl
>
>
>



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Old 10-05-2007
Frank Bright
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

GT, I've actually done it, in the order you're proposing.
But it is too referential to Ubuntu for this forum. Email me at Brightbelt
(at) Comcast (dot) net and I can give you
VERY detailed instructions that will make it easier for you.

Btw, a Linuxarion strictly warned me...do NOT let the Ubuntu Install do the
partitioning. Do it with Vista instead.

Thanks, Frank



"Doris Day - MFB" <snort@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1178745356.250027@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
> GT wrote:
>
>> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
>> don't
>> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
>> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
>> buying any software that can create a partition.

>
> Yep, no problem. Just bootup your Ubuntu LiveCD and when you get to the
> desktop, click on the Install icon. Away it goes. It'll resize your Fista
> partition, leaving room to automatically install Ubuntu. It'll install
> GRUB
> which will then let you select which operating system you wish to boot. I
> use the term "operating system" rather loosely in this regards. Windoze is
> hardly an operating system of any merit.
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>
> --
> My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ... http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
> Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl
>
>
>



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Old 10-05-2007
Frank Bright
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

My apologies -- I posted the longer explanation by mistake. I thought it got
deleted.
I'm trying to deflect the Ubuntu talk away from the forum and yet still
offer help to GT if he or she still wants it.

Thanks, Frank


"Frank Bright" <Brightbelt@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F7976E81-5CCA-4E48-AD5C-985D4FA96567@microsoft.com...
> GT, I've actually done it, in the order you're proposing.
> But it is too referential to Ubuntu for this forum. Email me at Brightbelt
> (at) Comcast (dot) net and I can give you
> VERY detailed instructions that will make it easier for you.
>
> Btw, a Linuxarion strictly warned me...do NOT let the Ubuntu Install do
> the partitioning. Do it with Vista instead.
>
> Thanks, Frank
>
>
>
> "Doris Day - MFB" <snort@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1178745356.250027@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
>> GT wrote:
>>
>>> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
>>> don't
>>> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do
>>> it
>>> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
>>> buying any software that can create a partition.

>>
>> Yep, no problem. Just bootup your Ubuntu LiveCD and when you get to the
>> desktop, click on the Install icon. Away it goes. It'll resize your Fista
>> partition, leaving room to automatically install Ubuntu. It'll install
>> GRUB
>> which will then let you select which operating system you wish to boot. I
>> use the term "operating system" rather loosely in this regards. Windoze
>> is
>> hardly an operating system of any merit.
>>
>> Love and Kisses,
>> Doris
>>
>> --
>> My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ... http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
>> Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl
>>
>>
>>

>



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Old 10-05-2007
sharpz
 
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Re: How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

as a sidenote, do not do this with edgy, only feisty. the ntfs-resize tool
on edgy seems to break your vista partition during resize, they released an
updated version which comes with feisty
"Doris Day - MFB" <snort@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1178745356.250027@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
> GT wrote:
>
>> How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
>> don't
>> want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
>> without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
>> buying any software that can create a partition.

>
> Yep, no problem. Just bootup your Ubuntu LiveCD and when you get to the
> desktop, click on the Install icon. Away it goes. It'll resize your Fista
> partition, leaving room to automatically install Ubuntu. It'll install
> GRUB
> which will then let you select which operating system you wish to boot. I
> use the term "operating system" rather loosely in this regards. Windoze is
> hardly an operating system of any merit.
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>
> --
> My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ... http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
> Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl
>
>
>



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