Reset Network Adapter

[Chuck]

Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
I may or may not be able to access the internet.

When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".

If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"

If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.

Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
but no change.

Any ideas?

Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it has
finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't actually
loaded yet.
"Chuck" wrote in message news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>
> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>
> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>
> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>
> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>
> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
> but no change.
>
> Any ideas?
>

[Chuck]

Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.

As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
etc.

I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.

And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?

Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
much notice.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:

>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it has
>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't actually
>loaded yet.
>"Chuck" wrote in message news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>
>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>
>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>
>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>
>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>
>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>> but no change.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>

I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I changed
all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are (and
I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which does
have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
Services then

Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns readable - you
have to do this every visit)

Sort by clicking Startup Type column

Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.

Automatic - loads as soon as it can
Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some faulty
programs like Defender can't do this.
Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs

<Chuck> wrote in message news:8bvr03pvpo0mpl87ulr5qu9vbbjnk0da6p@4ax.com...
> Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.
>
> As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
> with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
> etc.
>
> I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
> but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.
>
> And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?
>
> Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
> am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
> much notice.
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:
>
>>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it has
>>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't
>>actually
>>loaded yet.
>>"Chuck" wrote in message
>>news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>
>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>
>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>
>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>
>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>>> but no change.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>

[Chuck]

Could be onto something there.

I have checked through the services and anything Internet related that
was set to manual and was started (which means it was needed in some
way) I have reset to automatic.

I'll see how it goes and report back after a few bootups.

Thanks for the advice.

Chuck

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:37:27 +1000, <.> wrote:

>I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I changed
>all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are (and
>I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which does
>have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
>Services then
>
>Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns readable - you
>have to do this every visit)
>
>Sort by clicking Startup Type column
>
>Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.
>
>Automatic - loads as soon as it can
>Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
>Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some faulty
>programs like Defender can't do this.
>Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs
>
><Chuck> wrote in message news:8bvr03pvpo0mpl87ulr5qu9vbbjnk0da6p@4ax.com...
>> Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.
>>
>> As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
>> with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
>> etc.
>>
>> I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
>> but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.
>>
>> And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?
>>
>> Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
>> am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
>> much notice.
>>
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>
>>>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it has
>>>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't
>>>actually
>>>loaded yet.
>>>"Chuck" wrote in message
>>>news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>>
>>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>>
>>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>>
>>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>>
>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>>>> but no change.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>

[Chuck]

Well that didn't work - anything Internet related was set to
"Automatic" and on first reboot didn't have internet connection and
had to "Reset Network adapter"

I really think this is some sort of flaw within Vista.

I can work around it, but it is annoying as hell.



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:16:25 +1000, Chuck <Chuck> wrote:

>Could be onto something there.
>
>I have checked through the services and anything Internet related that
>was set to manual and was started (which means it was needed in some
>way) I have reset to automatic.
>
>I'll see how it goes and report back after a few bootups.
>
>Thanks for the advice.
>
>Chuck
>
>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:37:27 +1000, <.> wrote:
>
>>I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I changed
>>all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are (and
>>I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which does
>>have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
>>Services then
>>
>>Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns readable - you
>>have to do this every visit)
>>
>>Sort by clicking Startup Type column
>>
>>Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.
>>
>>Automatic - loads as soon as it can
>>Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
>>Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some faulty
>>programs like Defender can't do this.
>>Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs
>>
>><Chuck> wrote in message news:8bvr03pvpo0mpl87ulr5qu9vbbjnk0da6p@4ax.com...
>>> Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.
>>>
>>> As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
>>> with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
>>> but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.
>>>
>>> And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?
>>>
>>> Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
>>> am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
>>> much notice.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it has
>>>>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't
>>>>actually
>>>>loaded yet.
>>>>"Chuck" wrote in message
>>>>news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>>>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>>>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>>>
>>>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>>>
>>>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>>>>> but no change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>

Are you waiting a minute anyway. Those Automatic ones are queued so it still
takes time for them to start. I'm of the opinion that this is just to make
computer look a quicker booter, as you have to wait a minute to use it
(unless editing text files is your thing).

I'm on USB so I get a dialup dialog to connect. About 60% of the computer is
hung waiting for the internet connection (not that I asked anything to
connect - the stock chart gadget is my suspect as I've turned nearly
everything else off). After a minute the connect dialog pops up, then the
password dialog and I'm online and booted.

Anything network has 2 standard steps to take that solves the top two issues
(according to MS and probably based on stats from tech support).
Check wires and connection. This is most frequent solution.
Secondly most frequent is to update drivers.

But I'm not sure you have a problem. As this is a vibe thing of where
reasonableness vs unreasonableness. But you are there and I'm not and you
feel the vibe, I just try to imagine it.
<Chuck> wrote in message news:bv8s03dmftl20nv0a98uuddosajjif31u3@4ax.com...
>
>
> Well that didn't work - anything Internet related was set to
> "Automatic" and on first reboot didn't have internet connection and
> had to "Reset Network adapter"
>
> I really think this is some sort of flaw within Vista.
>
> I can work around it, but it is annoying as hell.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:16:25 +1000, Chuck <Chuck> wrote:
>
>>Could be onto something there.
>>
>>I have checked through the services and anything Internet related that
>>was set to manual and was started (which means it was needed in some
>>way) I have reset to automatic.
>>
>>I'll see how it goes and report back after a few bootups.
>>
>>Thanks for the advice.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:37:27 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>
>>>I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I changed
>>>all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are
>>>(and
>>>I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which
>>>does
>>>have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
>>>Services then
>>>
>>>Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns readable -
>>>you
>>>have to do this every visit)
>>>
>>>Sort by clicking Startup Type column
>>>
>>>Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.
>>>
>>>Automatic - loads as soon as it can
>>>Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
>>>Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some faulty
>>>programs like Defender can't do this.
>>>Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs
>>>
>>><Chuck> wrote in message
>>>news:8bvr03pvpo0mpl87ulr5qu9vbbjnk0da6p@4ax.com...
>>>> Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.
>>>>
>>>> As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
>>>> with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
>>>> but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.
>>>>
>>>> And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?
>>>>
>>>> Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
>>>> am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
>>>> much notice.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it
>>>>>has
>>>>>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't
>>>>>actually
>>>>>loaded yet.
>>>>>"Chuck" wrote in message
>>>>>news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on
>>>>>> bootup,
>>>>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>>>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>>>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>>>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>>>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>>>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter
>>>>>> driver,
>>>>>> but no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>

[Mick]

I am using a Cat5 cable to a router in vista home edition, with XP on the
other computer, and it takes about 1-2 minutes for the internet to be
connected after desktop first loads. The icon is down near the clock. You
will see the red cross on it disappear once you are connected, and running
your cursor over it will show that you are connected to local and internet
network

"Chuck" wrote:

> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>
> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>
> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>
> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>
> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>
> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
> but no change.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

[chinga69]

does messenger connect before you try and open explorer
and you should install firefox and see if you get the same problem with
that


--
chinga69

CHEERS CHINGA69:D :D :D

[Chuck]

Just did a reboot so that I could wait for a minute to see if I became
connected , but wouldn't you know it, I was instantly connected.

This is what i find strange - about 50% of the time, I am connected
staright away and the other 50 - no connection.

Next time that happens I'll wait for minute to see if I do become
connected.

I am on a Cat5 connection to an "always on" router, as is my other
computer running XP. It never has a problem, and indeed neither does
this one when I fire up XP on my other partition. So I' am quite sure
there is nothing physical like a loose connection causing the problem.
It is a Vista quirk.



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:01:20 +1000, <.> wrote:

>Are you waiting a minute anyway. Those Automatic ones are queued so it still
>takes time for them to start. I'm of the opinion that this is just to make
>computer look a quicker booter, as you have to wait a minute to use it
>(unless editing text files is your thing).
>
>I'm on USB so I get a dialup dialog to connect. About 60% of the computer is
>hung waiting for the internet connection (not that I asked anything to
>connect - the stock chart gadget is my suspect as I've turned nearly
>everything else off). After a minute the connect dialog pops up, then the
>password dialog and I'm online and booted.
>
>Anything network has 2 standard steps to take that solves the top two issues
>(according to MS and probably based on stats from tech support).
>Check wires and connection. This is most frequent solution.
>Secondly most frequent is to update drivers.
>
>But I'm not sure you have a problem. As this is a vibe thing of where
>reasonableness vs unreasonableness. But you are there and I'm not and you
>feel the vibe, I just try to imagine it.
><Chuck> wrote in message news:bv8s03dmftl20nv0a98uuddosajjif31u3@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Well that didn't work - anything Internet related was set to
>> "Automatic" and on first reboot didn't have internet connection and
>> had to "Reset Network adapter"
>>
>> I really think this is some sort of flaw within Vista.
>>
>> I can work around it, but it is annoying as hell.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:16:25 +1000, Chuck <Chuck> wrote:
>>
>>>Could be onto something there.
>>>
>>>I have checked through the services and anything Internet related that
>>>was set to manual and was started (which means it was needed in some
>>>way) I have reset to automatic.
>>>
>>>I'll see how it goes and report back after a few bootups.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the advice.
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:37:27 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I changed
>>>>all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are
>>>>(and
>>>>I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which
>>>>does
>>>>have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
>>>>Services then
>>>>
>>>>Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns readable -
>>>>you
>>>>have to do this every visit)
>>>>
>>>>Sort by clicking Startup Type column
>>>>
>>>>Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.
>>>>
>>>>Automatic - loads as soon as it can
>>>>Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
>>>>Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some faulty
>>>>programs like Defender can't do this.
>>>>Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs
>>>>
>>>><Chuck> wrote in message
>>>>news:8bvr03pvpo0mpl87ulr5qu9vbbjnk0da6p@4ax.com...
>>>>> Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
>>>>> with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
>>>>> but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
>>>>> am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
>>>>> much notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't
>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>loaded yet.
>>>>>>"Chuck" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on
>>>>>>> bootup,
>>>>>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>>>>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>>>>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>>>>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>>>>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>>>>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter
>>>>>>> driver,
>>>>>>> but no change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>

[Chuck]

Mick, you say "The icon is down near the clock."

Just what Icon is that? The tell tale for me that i am not connected
is the MSN Messenger icon showing a red cross (also in the system
tray) and the fact that Maiwasher repotts that it cannot connect to my
mail server.

But i don't have any specific Internet connection icon.

Did have in the old dial up days, but not with adsl.




On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:20:00 -0700, Mick
<Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am using a Cat5 cable to a router in vista home edition, with XP on the
>other computer, and it takes about 1-2 minutes for the internet to be
>connected after desktop first loads. The icon is down near the clock. You
>will see the red cross on it disappear once you are connected, and running
>your cursor over it will show that you are connected to local and internet
>network
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>
>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>
>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>
>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>
>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>
>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>> but no change.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>

[Chuck]

Messenger tries to connect, but fails - thats how I know I don't have
a connection.

Firefox is my default browser, and no it doesn't connect until I reset
the network adapter. I only use IE7 because I found by accident, that
it has the facility to "diagnose the problem". Firefox doesn't do
that.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:36:38 -0500, chinga69
<chinga69.2ob2x2@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>
>does messenger connect before you try and open explorer
>and you should install firefox and see if you get the same problem with
>that

If you ever expect hardware has gone wonky (a lot of components have their
own small cpu and something like code - they can crash). Turn off the
computer at the powerpoint for 10 seconds. That deprives everything of power
forcing everything to do a hard reset. Some cards don't do hard resets on
just the power button. It's always good to eliminate the simple.

There is a boot monitor of sorts in Control Panel\Performance Information
and Tools. I can't find the advanced button on mine. I used ut before. This
is why menus are an essential part of a gui. I found it. What a dog of an
interface. Scroll down to bottom of page, Choose Generate A System Health
Report. Somewhere in this mess that you'll see in 60 seconds will be
something about boot times. I stuffed that I can find it there. But I know
that ReasyBoost decreased boot times for something by a second. I was
impressed but not looking for that at the time. Hunt around.
<Chuck> wrote in message news:v3fs03dvc2fn1p1bskejuskg4muhhljsiv@4ax.com...
> Just did a reboot so that I could wait for a minute to see if I became
> connected , but wouldn't you know it, I was instantly connected.
>
> This is what i find strange - about 50% of the time, I am connected
> staright away and the other 50 - no connection.
>
> Next time that happens I'll wait for minute to see if I do become
> connected.
>
> I am on a Cat5 connection to an "always on" router, as is my other
> computer running XP. It never has a problem, and indeed neither does
> this one when I fire up XP on my other partition. So I' am quite sure
> there is nothing physical like a loose connection causing the problem.
> It is a Vista quirk.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:01:20 +1000, <.> wrote:
>
>>Are you waiting a minute anyway. Those Automatic ones are queued so it
>>still
>>takes time for them to start. I'm of the opinion that this is just to make
>>computer look a quicker booter, as you have to wait a minute to use it
>>(unless editing text files is your thing).
>>
>>I'm on USB so I get a dialup dialog to connect. About 60% of the computer
>>is
>>hung waiting for the internet connection (not that I asked anything to
>>connect - the stock chart gadget is my suspect as I've turned nearly
>>everything else off). After a minute the connect dialog pops up, then the
>>password dialog and I'm online and booted.
>>
>>Anything network has 2 standard steps to take that solves the top two
>>issues
>>(according to MS and probably based on stats from tech support).
>>Check wires and connection. This is most frequent solution.
>>Secondly most frequent is to update drivers.
>>
>>But I'm not sure you have a problem. As this is a vibe thing of where
>>reasonableness vs unreasonableness. But you are there and I'm not and you
>>feel the vibe, I just try to imagine it.
>><Chuck> wrote in message
>>news:bv8s03dmftl20nv0a98uuddosajjif31u3@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well that didn't work - anything Internet related was set to
>>> "Automatic" and on first reboot didn't have internet connection and
>>> had to "Reset Network adapter"
>>>
>>> I really think this is some sort of flaw within Vista.
>>>
>>> I can work around it, but it is annoying as hell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:16:25 +1000, Chuck <Chuck> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Could be onto something there.
>>>>
>>>>I have checked through the services and anything Internet related that
>>>>was set to manual and was started (which means it was needed in some
>>>>way) I have reset to automatic.
>>>>
>>>>I'll see how it goes and report back after a few bootups.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the advice.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:37:27 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I
>>>>>changed
>>>>>all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are
>>>>>(and
>>>>>I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which
>>>>>does
>>>>>have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
>>>>>Services then
>>>>>
>>>>>Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns
>>>>>readable -
>>>>>you
>>>>>have to do this every visit)
>>>>>
>>>>>Sort by clicking Startup Type column
>>>>>
>>>>>Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.
>>>>>
>>>>>Automatic - loads as soon as it can
>>>>>Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
>>>>>Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some
>>>>>faulty
>>>>>programs like Defender can't do this.
>>>>>Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs
>>>>>
>>>>><Chuck> wrote in message
>>>>>news:8bvr03pvpo0mpl87ulr5qu9vbbjnk0da6p@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
>>>>>> with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger,
>>>>>> Mailwasher
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
>>>>>> but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
>>>>>> much notice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:57:00 +1000, <.> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't
>>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>loaded yet.
>>>>>>>"Chuck" wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:ogsr03t6is5972uq9e21v4iarnkfbi4f2i@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on
>>>>>>>> bootup,
>>>>>>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>>>>>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the
>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of
>>>>>>>> options,
>>>>>>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>>>>>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter
>>>>>>>> driver,
>>>>>>>> but no change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>

[Dave]

right-click on Taskbar - Properties - Notification Area - System Icons -
check Network



<Chuck> wrote in message news:vffs035fnl385qss5j4djg8834qplejh8l@4ax.com...
> Mick, you say "The icon is down near the clock."
>
> Just what Icon is that? The tell tale for me that i am not connected
> is the MSN Messenger icon showing a red cross (also in the system
> tray) and the fact that Maiwasher repotts that it cannot connect to my
> mail server.
>
> But i don't have any specific Internet connection icon.
>
> Did have in the old dial up days, but not with adsl.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:20:00 -0700, Mick
> <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I am using a Cat5 cable to a router in vista home edition, with XP on the
>>other computer, and it takes about 1-2 minutes for the internet to be
>>connected after desktop first loads. The icon is down near the clock. You
>>will see the red cross on it disappear once you are connected, and running
>>your cursor over it will show that you are connected to local and internet
>>network
>>
>>"Chuck" wrote:
>>
>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>
>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>
>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>
>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>
>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>>> but no change.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>>

[Daze N. Knights]

On mine, the icon looks like a pair of monitors.

Chuck wrote:
> Mick, you say "The icon is down near the clock."
>
> Just what Icon is that? The tell tale for me that i am not connected
> is the MSN Messenger icon showing a red cross (also in the system
> tray) and the fact that Maiwasher repotts that it cannot connect to my
> mail server.
>
> But i don't have any specific Internet connection icon.
>
> Did have in the old dial up days, but not with adsl.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:20:00 -0700, Mick
> <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I am using a Cat5 cable to a router in vista home edition, with XP on the
>> other computer, and it takes about 1-2 minutes for the internet to be
>> connected after desktop first loads. The icon is down near the clock. You
>> will see the red cross on it disappear once you are connected, and running
>> your cursor over it will show that you are connected to local and internet
>> network
>>
>> "Chuck" wrote:
>>
>>> Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
>>> I may or may not be able to access the internet.
>>>
>>> When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
>>> access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
>>> results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
>>> and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".
>>>
>>> If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
>>> one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"
>>>
>>> If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
>>> firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?
>>>
>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
>>> but no change.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>>