Lack of FAX Support for Vista Home Premium

[jacuze]

I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with the
ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard feature
in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I don't
need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new computer
with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however, I
discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To make
it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as a
free stand alone download.

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http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

[David A. Lessnau]

I'm surprised your computer manufacturer didn't include fax software to go
with the fax modem that came with the computer. Have you double-checked
that? Have you checked the manufacturer's web site to see if they have a
program that's compatible with Vista? Failing that, one source of
alternatives might be the Marketplace on the Microsoft Office site:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ma...=fax&av=PMP000

It looks like it contains links for both fax software and internet faxing
sites. I've used both www.efax.com and www.fax1.com .




"jacuze" <jacuze@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5302B981-3DA2-49F4-A0B7-068358A8BFDE@microsoft.com...
>I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with the
> ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard
> feature
> in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I don't
> need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
> couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
> Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new
> computer
> with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however, I
> discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To
> make
> it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as a
> free stand alone download.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

[johnm]

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:es6pZRUWHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if you
> have anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]


as haven't you..... smartass

to the OP, try http://www.snappysoftware.com/
look for Snappy Fax, works with Vista

funny though, why MS decided to remove a feature from what they KNEW would
be their top seller.
just one more example of how "upgrading" to Vista actually results in a
"downgrade"

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

You should read more carefully. It's all there.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
>existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
>whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
>"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually be
>removed...
>
> Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
>
> Greenwing
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
>>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
>

[ripley56]

I upgraded to vista home premium from xp and found that my fax program had
vanished. So home premium stole my fax program and charged me for the
privilage
I am now in the process of asking microsoft for my money back.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> You should read more carefully. It's all there.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
> news:%23i7UYVpWHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I didn't read in the MS Vista website documentation where it said that
> >existing XP functionality would actually be removed when upgrading to
> >whatever version of Vista...I read that as I would not be getting
> >"enhanced" vista faxing...I had no idea the old XP faxing would actually be
> >removed...
> >
> > Same applies to the system backup functionality...XP could do full
> > backups, but Vista Home Premium cannot...
> >
> > Greenwing
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e1UxVfmWHHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>I understand. This one has caught a lot of folks off guard. But the
> >>documentation was all there before you chose your version.
> >
>
>
>

[Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]]

Yep, just like General Motors who've decided that, if you own a somewhat
older car with their analog North Star system, you're SOL because North Star
is moving to a digital system and only the very latest cars with the analog
system can be upgraded to digital - if you want to continue to use North
Star, buy yourself a new car. A lovely philosophy for creating a market to
make a ton of money, but no, I DON'T have to love it.

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Live at Hot Licks - www.badnewsbluesband.com

"Bob F." <bob@NOSPAN.com> wrote in message
news:enqHm%23FiIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It's part of MS bundling strategy. Like network cable companies or with
> other deals sometimes a feature or product is left out deliberately in
order
> to create and incentive for you to buy the next level product (Ultimate in
> this case). After all FAX is not part of an OS. I don't think they are
> listening or care otherwise, since you can get a FAX utility for free or
> very cheaply. I'm not saying I agree with it either but, this is US
> marketing and capitalism at it's best. You got to love it!
>
> --
> Regards, BobF.
> "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" <hhh@kvoa.com> wrote in message
> news:%23n4xmkFiIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > FWIW, neither Russ nor I saw any rationale for removing Fax from the
Home
> > editions either. It was and remains our contention that home users
> > were/are
> > the primary users of the Fax module; those in a business environment
> > usually
> > have a far more robust fax arrangement and really are the folks (if any)
> > that DON'T need it. Go figure... Maybe they'll listen one day, but I'm
> > not
> > holding my breath.
> >
> > Hal
> > --
> > Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
> > Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
> > http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
> > KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
> > Live at Hot Licks - www.badnewsbluesband.com
> >
> > "Dr A" <Dr A@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:F056C599-EC9A-4FAA-8F6E-6F064470BDA0@microsoft.com...
> >> Most people buy computers with software pre-installed, I got mine at
> >> U-bid.com, so have no control over what was there, and I am not
prepared
> > to
> >> upgrade to expensive software. Bottom line is there does not seem to be
a
> >> rationale for removing fax support it was there for a long time and
> > people
> >> liked using the modem for faxing, I get ethernet connection (as most
> > people
> >> do nowdays) so there is no other reason to use/have a data/fax nodem
> >> other
> >> than fax.
> >>
> >> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >>
> >> > The features included with each version are not a secret. Users need
to
> > read
> >> > that information very carefully before they decide on which version
to
> >> > choose. Caveat emptor.
> >> > --
> >> > Russ Valentine
> >> > [MVP-Outlook]
> >> > "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:eJ0SbtdWHHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > >
> >> > > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:es6pZRUWHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > >> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if
> > you
> >> > >> have anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Russ Valentine
> >> > >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > as haven't you..... smartass
> >> > >
> >> > > to the OP, try http://www.snappysoftware.com/
> >> > > look for Snappy Fax, works with Vista
> >> > >
> >> > > funny though, why MS decided to remove a feature from what they
KNEW
> > would
> >> > > be their top seller.
> >> > > just one more example of how "upgrading" to Vista actually results
in
> > a
> >> > > "downgrade"
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>

[Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]]

....and please replace North Star with On-Star.

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Live at Hot Licks - www.badnewsbluesband.com

"Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" <hhh@kvoa.com> wrote in message
news:%23n4xmkFiIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> FWIW, neither Russ nor I saw any rationale for removing Fax from the Home
> editions either. It was and remains our contention that home users
were/are
> the primary users of the Fax module; those in a business environment
usually
> have a far more robust fax arrangement and really are the folks (if any)
> that DON'T need it. Go figure... Maybe they'll listen one day, but I'm
not
> holding my breath.
>
> Hal
> --
> Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
> Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
> http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
> KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
> Live at Hot Licks - www.badnewsbluesband.com
>
> "Dr A" <Dr A@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F056C599-EC9A-4FAA-8F6E-6F064470BDA0@microsoft.com...
> > Most people buy computers with software pre-installed, I got mine at
> > U-bid.com, so have no control over what was there, and I am not prepared
> to
> > upgrade to expensive software. Bottom line is there does not seem to be
a
> > rationale for removing fax support it was there for a long time and
> people
> > liked using the modem for faxing, I get ethernet connection (as most
> people
> > do nowdays) so there is no other reason to use/have a data/fax nodem
other
> > than fax.
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> > > The features included with each version are not a secret. Users need
to
> read
> > > that information very carefully before they decide on which version to
> > > choose. Caveat emptor.
> > > --
> > > Russ Valentine
> > > [MVP-Outlook]
> > > "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eJ0SbtdWHHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > >
> > > > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:es6pZRUWHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > >> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if
> you
> > > >> have anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Russ Valentine
> > > >> [MVP-Outlook]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > as haven't you..... smartass
> > > >
> > > > to the OP, try http://www.snappysoftware.com/
> > > > look for Snappy Fax, works with Vista
> > > >
> > > > funny though, why MS decided to remove a feature from what they KNEW
> would
> > > > be their top seller.
> > > > just one more example of how "upgrading" to Vista actually results
in
> a
> > > > "downgrade"
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

[pete]

I feel riped off! A FREE download is something I expect from Microsoft!

"jacuze" wrote:

> I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with the
> ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard feature
> in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I don't
> need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
> couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
> Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new computer
> with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however, I
> discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To make
> it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as a
> free stand alone download.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

[BobF.]

The third option is free. You might find a version that works for you on
that page.

You might consider Snappy Fax at a slight cost:
http://www.snappysoftware.com/

or a full BVRP Classic Phone Tools 9: $29.90
http://www.shop.avanquest.com/usa/pr...S_CPT_homepage

or the Free version from BVRP:
http://www.usr.com/bvrp/bvrp.asp
I’ve used all of these. Snappy fax screen look a bit crude but the product
actually is fairly feature rich and works fine. BVRP also works fine,
screen looks a little better. Other than that, there are minor differences
in performance between the two.

--
Regards, BobF.
"pete" <pete@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D85EE91-9F59-4D5C-B150-754EF5AE1AB7@microsoft.com...
>I feel riped off! A FREE download is something I expect from Microsoft!
>
> "jacuze" wrote:
>
>> I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with
>> the
>> ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard
>> feature
>> in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I
>> don't
>> need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
>> couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
>> Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new
>> computer
>> with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however,
>> I
>> discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To
>> make
>> it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as
>> a
>> free stand alone download.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

[Another DISsatisfied customer]

"jacuze" wrote:

> I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with the
> ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard feature
> in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I don't
> need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
> couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
> Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new computer
> with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however, I
> discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To make
> it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as a
> free stand alone download.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

[Another DISsatisfied customer]

1. Why do you have to be so negative to everyone Russ?
2. Some of us just want to believe that Microsoft wants to be a good
company, but they continue to let us down.
3. RKS Fax works well with Vista Home Premium. But after 30 days, it will
cost $19.95
http://www.rkssoftware.com/rksfax/overview.html

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if you have
> anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "jacuze" <jacuze@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5302B981-3DA2-49F4-A0B7-068358A8BFDE@microsoft.com...
> >I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with the
> > ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard
> > feature
> > in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I don't
> > need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
> > couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
> > Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new
> > computer
> > with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem, however, I
> > discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To
> > make
> > it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or as a
> > free stand alone download.
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan
>
>
>

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

The point, of course, is that posting the same message over and over in an
end user newsgroup that Microsoft does not read is simply a waste of time.
No one was more vocal than I during the development cycle about the lack of
Fax in the Vista versions whose users needed it most. In the end, marketing
overrules development every time. Case closed.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Another DISsatisfied customer"
<AnotherDISsatisfiedcustomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:743154FD-050A-4C84-963E-6E3920FEFC4C@microsoft.com...
> 1. Why do you have to be so negative to everyone Russ?
> 2. Some of us just want to believe that Microsoft wants to be a good
> company, but they continue to let us down.
> 3. RKS Fax works well with Vista Home Premium. But after 30 days, it
> will
> cost $19.95
> http://www.rkssoftware.com/rksfax/overview.html
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if you
>> have
>> anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "jacuze" <jacuze@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5302B981-3DA2-49F4-A0B7-068358A8BFDE@microsoft.com...
>> >I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with
>> >the
>> > ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard
>> > feature
>> > in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I
>> > don't
>> > need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once every
>> > couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
>> > Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new
>> > computer
>> > with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem,
>> > however, I
>> > discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in. To
>> > make
>> > it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or
>> > as a
>> > free stand alone download.
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> > "I
>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> > this
>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> > then
>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan
>>
>>
>>

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

I don't fax but I did want to point out that I'm not the only person at MS
in this newsgroup. Can I convince a marketing team that they made the wrong
choice? No way!. Can you be heard? Yes. The fact that people are
disappointed has been heard, It's not just a Russ thing nor just a
newsgroup subject. The developers who want you to use their software argue
your point and use the customer argument as leverage to convince marketing
that this is a useful feature in the home.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C6DD015F-9A81-4A6F-B000-7886E5F483E3@microsoft.com...
> The point, of course, is that posting the same message over and over in an
> end user newsgroup that Microsoft does not read is simply a waste of time.
> No one was more vocal than I during the development cycle about the lack
> of Fax in the Vista versions whose users needed it most. In the end,
> marketing overrules development every time. Case closed.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Another DISsatisfied customer"
> <AnotherDISsatisfiedcustomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:743154FD-050A-4C84-963E-6E3920FEFC4C@microsoft.com...
>> 1. Why do you have to be so negative to everyone Russ?
>> 2. Some of us just want to believe that Microsoft wants to be a good
>> company, but they continue to let us down.
>> 3. RKS Fax works well with Vista Home Premium. But after 30 days, it
>> will
>> cost $19.95
>> http://www.rkssoftware.com/rksfax/overview.html
>>
>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>>
>>> Multiple posts exist on this subject. Feel free to contibribute if you
>>> have
>>> anything to add to those posts. So far, you haven't.
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>> "jacuze" <jacuze@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5302B981-3DA2-49F4-A0B7-068358A8BFDE@microsoft.com...
>>> >I find it dishearting that Microsoft failed to provide home users with
>>> >the
>>> > ability to send/receive a fax. A fax capability has been a standard
>>> > feature
>>> > in just about every Microsoft OS I can remember. As a home users, I
>>> > don't
>>> > need a fax on a daily basis. I might use it once a month or once
>>> > every
>>> > couple of months, but when I need it, I expect it to be there.
>>> > Microsoft, you failed as far as I am concerned. I purchased a new
>>> > computer
>>> > with Vista Premium loaded. The computer came with a fax modem,
>>> > however, I
>>> > discoverd that only Business and above have fax capability built in.
>>> > To
>>> > make
>>> > it right, Microsoft should include the fax capability as an update or
>>> > as a
>>> > free stand alone download.
>>> >
>>> > ----------------
>>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>>> > the "I
>>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>>> > follow
>>> > this
>>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> > then
>>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>> >
>>> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

[Badcam]

I too am frustrated that Home Premium doesn't come with a fax function.
Likewise, my laptop came pre-installed with premium and no other option
was available. Removing the fax feature is inexcusable.

Now, just a quick word to the MVP's:

I can understand visitors to this thread doing so, but yourselves doing
this consistently is unforgivable. When you respond to someone's post,
please remove all the the excess verbiage. Nobody wants to see all those
previous posts repeated over and over in every response.

It not only makes it harder to read, but is pure laziness on your part.
A lot of people say that Windows code is full of bloat and reading your
responses just makes me wonder. Especially considering that you regard
yourselves as developers. So, if you wish to quote what someone has
previously said, then please only quote what you're actually responding
to. Remove the rest please.


--
Badcam

[Peter]

To include the messages in replies is standard procedure for these NG's. If
one has just "tuned in" that helps to inform us what has gone on before.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2/Vista Ultimate SP1
Triple Boot

"Badcam" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> I too am frustrated that Home Premium doesn't come with a fax function.
> Likewise, my laptop came pre-installed with premium and no other option
> was available. Removing the fax feature is inexcusable.
>
> Now, just a quick word to the MVP's:
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> I can understand visitors to this thread doing so, but yourselves doing
> this consistently is unforgivable. When you respond to someone's post,
> please remove all the the excess verbiage. Nobody wants to see all those
> previous posts repeated over and over in every response.
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> It not only makes it harder to read, but is pure laziness on your part.
> A lot of people say that Windows code is full of bloat and reading your
> responses just makes me wonder. Especially considering that you regard
> yourselves as developers. So, if you wish to quote what someone has
> previously said, then please only quote what you're actually responding
> to. Remove the rest please.
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> Badcam