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Old 31-01-2007
DCELL
 
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Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

Here's the blue screen error number..
0x000000124 (0x00000000, 0x83fba028, 0xb2000000, 0x00070f0f)
even though I've never heard of anyone being able to tell you what it means.

Here's my machine specs..
A8N32 SLI Deluxe ASUS motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 4400+ X2,
TWINX2048-3500LLPRO CORSAIR XMS RAM, 2 BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC in SLI mode, 2
Sony DWQ30A DVD Dual Burners, Mitsumi 7&1 floppy/card reader, Adaptec 4 USB/3
Firewire card, SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-65ZF ATX 650W power supply, Silverstone
SST-TJ07 case

It had a MS bluetooth KB/M but I unplugged those/the receiver/transmitter to
see if that stopped crashes.

I've disabled all kinds of power options because it wasn't shutting down,
Screen would go black but machine still running. It will finally shut off
now but still crashes.

I"m using the latest Nvidia drivers, not the one Windows update
installed-crashed with those to.
Using the lates Realtek drivers, not the one windows update
installed-crashed with those to.

Keep getting a blue screen, intermitentally, while doing different things.
There's a unknown device in manager that never will install, I've disabled
that yet all HW working. I've unplugged the game port and serial port from
MB headers, still crashing.

Software installed:
All updates from MS update
Office 2007 Ultimate: Crashed without this
Turbo Tax 2007: Crashed without this
Quicken 20003: Crashed without this

Any ideas?

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Old 31-01-2007
DCELL
 
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RE: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

Hard drives are 2 74GB Raptors on the nvidia controlers, 1 & 2 I think, in a
RAID 0, OS & programs, 2 seagate 160GB SATA on the other 2 nvidia
controllers, RAID O; a WD 80GB drive partitioned into 2 40GB drives on the
IDE cable with a 120GB WD on the other IDE connection on the same cable.
Sorry I forgot to put this in original post.

"DCELL" wrote:

> Here's the blue screen error number..
> 0x000000124 (0x00000000, 0x83fba028, 0xb2000000, 0x00070f0f)
> even though I've never heard of anyone being able to tell you what it means.
>
> Here's my machine specs..
> A8N32 SLI Deluxe ASUS motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 4400+ X2,
> TWINX2048-3500LLPRO CORSAIR XMS RAM, 2 BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC in SLI mode, 2
> Sony DWQ30A DVD Dual Burners, Mitsumi 7&1 floppy/card reader, Adaptec 4 USB/3
> Firewire card, SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-65ZF ATX 650W power supply, Silverstone
> SST-TJ07 case
>
> It had a MS bluetooth KB/M but I unplugged those/the receiver/transmitter to
> see if that stopped crashes.
>
> I've disabled all kinds of power options because it wasn't shutting down,
> Screen would go black but machine still running. It will finally shut off
> now but still crashes.
>
> I"m using the latest Nvidia drivers, not the one Windows update
> installed-crashed with those to.
> Using the lates Realtek drivers, not the one windows update
> installed-crashed with those to.
>
> Keep getting a blue screen, intermitentally, while doing different things.
> There's a unknown device in manager that never will install, I've disabled
> that yet all HW working. I've unplugged the game port and serial port from
> MB headers, still crashing.
>
> Software installed:
> All updates from MS update
> Office 2007 Ultimate: Crashed without this
> Turbo Tax 2007: Crashed without this
> Quicken 20003: Crashed without this
>
> Any ideas?


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  #3  
Old 31-01-2007
MICHAEL
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

I saw someone mention an issue with Bluetooth
causing bootup blue screens.

Boot into safe Mode and uncheck any Bluetooth entries
that are in msconfig>startup.

-Michael

"DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6E4C25F5-AE1E-47C2-8FEA-082F23F29384@microsoft.com...
> Here's the blue screen error number..
> 0x000000124 (0x00000000, 0x83fba028, 0xb2000000, 0x00070f0f)
> even though I've never heard of anyone being able to tell you what it means.
>
> Here's my machine specs..
> A8N32 SLI Deluxe ASUS motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 4400+ X2,
> TWINX2048-3500LLPRO CORSAIR XMS RAM, 2 BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC in SLI mode, 2
> Sony DWQ30A DVD Dual Burners, Mitsumi 7&1 floppy/card reader, Adaptec 4 USB/3
> Firewire card, SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-65ZF ATX 650W power supply, Silverstone
> SST-TJ07 case
>
> It had a MS bluetooth KB/M but I unplugged those/the receiver/transmitter to
> see if that stopped crashes.
>
> I've disabled all kinds of power options because it wasn't shutting down,
> Screen would go black but machine still running. It will finally shut off
> now but still crashes.
>
> I"m using the latest Nvidia drivers, not the one Windows update
> installed-crashed with those to.
> Using the lates Realtek drivers, not the one windows update
> installed-crashed with those to.
>
> Keep getting a blue screen, intermitentally, while doing different things.
> There's a unknown device in manager that never will install, I've disabled
> that yet all HW working. I've unplugged the game port and serial port from
> MB headers, still crashing.
>
> Software installed:
> All updates from MS update
> Office 2007 Ultimate: Crashed without this
> Turbo Tax 2007: Crashed without this
> Quicken 20003: Crashed without this
>
> Any ideas?



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  #4  
Old 31-01-2007
Beck
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OytJMBURHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I saw someone mention an issue with Bluetooth
> causing bootup blue screens.
>
> Boot into safe Mode and uncheck any Bluetooth entries
> that are in msconfig>startup.


That might have been me.
There is a serious issue with the BlueSoleil bluetooth software (its not
compatible with Vista and causes blue screen loop). This problem I had is
specific to BlueSoleil software, I had not tried any others. Problem is,
BlueSoleil software comes bundled with many generic bluetooth dongles so a
person may not immediately know whether it is bluesoleil or not.

If that is the problem, you are correct with the fix - boot to safe mode and
remove the bluetooth software from starting at startup in msconfig. Then
reboot and uninstall the software.


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  #5  
Old 31-01-2007
DCELL
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

I'm still having the issues even without the MS bluetooth dongle plugged into
the USB port. I'm currently not using the BT keyboard/mouse, still crashing.

"MICHAEL" wrote:

> I saw someone mention an issue with Bluetooth
> causing bootup blue screens.
>
> Boot into safe Mode and uncheck any Bluetooth entries
> that are in msconfig>startup.
>
> -Michael
>
> "DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6E4C25F5-AE1E-47C2-8FEA-082F23F29384@microsoft.com...
> > Here's the blue screen error number..
> > 0x000000124 (0x00000000, 0x83fba028, 0xb2000000, 0x00070f0f)
> > even though I've never heard of anyone being able to tell you what it means.
> >
> > Here's my machine specs..
> > A8N32 SLI Deluxe ASUS motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 4400+ X2,
> > TWINX2048-3500LLPRO CORSAIR XMS RAM, 2 BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC in SLI mode, 2
> > Sony DWQ30A DVD Dual Burners, Mitsumi 7&1 floppy/card reader, Adaptec 4 USB/3
> > Firewire card, SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-65ZF ATX 650W power supply, Silverstone
> > SST-TJ07 case
> >
> > It had a MS bluetooth KB/M but I unplugged those/the receiver/transmitter to
> > see if that stopped crashes.
> >
> > I've disabled all kinds of power options because it wasn't shutting down,
> > Screen would go black but machine still running. It will finally shut off
> > now but still crashes.
> >
> > I"m using the latest Nvidia drivers, not the one Windows update
> > installed-crashed with those to.
> > Using the lates Realtek drivers, not the one windows update
> > installed-crashed with those to.
> >
> > Keep getting a blue screen, intermitentally, while doing different things.
> > There's a unknown device in manager that never will install, I've disabled
> > that yet all HW working. I've unplugged the game port and serial port from
> > MB headers, still crashing.
> >
> > Software installed:
> > All updates from MS update
> > Office 2007 Ultimate: Crashed without this
> > Turbo Tax 2007: Crashed without this
> > Quicken 20003: Crashed without this
> >
> > Any ideas?

>
>


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Old 31-01-2007
MICHAEL
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

Understood. But- if this is indeed the problem- the loading of the
drivers may still be occurring on startup, even though the hardware
isn't plugged in.

Do you have any other USB devices plugged in?

-Michael

"DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E9B718B-7C55-40E1-9710-4604DCD87096@microsoft.com...
> I'm still having the issues even without the MS bluetooth dongle plugged into
> the USB port. I'm currently not using the BT keyboard/mouse, still crashing.
>
> "MICHAEL" wrote:
>
>> I saw someone mention an issue with Bluetooth
>> causing bootup blue screens.
>>
>> Boot into safe Mode and uncheck any Bluetooth entries
>> that are in msconfig>startup.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6E4C25F5-AE1E-47C2-8FEA-082F23F29384@microsoft.com...
>> > Here's the blue screen error number..
>> > 0x000000124 (0x00000000, 0x83fba028, 0xb2000000, 0x00070f0f)
>> > even though I've never heard of anyone being able to tell you what it means.
>> >
>> > Here's my machine specs..
>> > A8N32 SLI Deluxe ASUS motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 4400+ X2,
>> > TWINX2048-3500LLPRO CORSAIR XMS RAM, 2 BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC in SLI mode, 2
>> > Sony DWQ30A DVD Dual Burners, Mitsumi 7&1 floppy/card reader, Adaptec 4 USB/3
>> > Firewire card, SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-65ZF ATX 650W power supply, Silverstone
>> > SST-TJ07 case
>> >
>> > It had a MS bluetooth KB/M but I unplugged those/the receiver/transmitter to
>> > see if that stopped crashes.
>> >
>> > I've disabled all kinds of power options because it wasn't shutting down,
>> > Screen would go black but machine still running. It will finally shut off
>> > now but still crashes.
>> >
>> > I"m using the latest Nvidia drivers, not the one Windows update
>> > installed-crashed with those to.
>> > Using the lates Realtek drivers, not the one windows update
>> > installed-crashed with those to.
>> >
>> > Keep getting a blue screen, intermitentally, while doing different things.
>> > There's a unknown device in manager that never will install, I've disabled
>> > that yet all HW working. I've unplugged the game port and serial port from
>> > MB headers, still crashing.
>> >
>> > Software installed:
>> > All updates from MS update
>> > Office 2007 Ultimate: Crashed without this
>> > Turbo Tax 2007: Crashed without this
>> > Quicken 20003: Crashed without this
>> >
>> > Any ideas?

>>
>>



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  #7  
Old 31-01-2007
Beck
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM


"DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E9B718B-7C55-40E1-9710-4604DCD87096@microsoft.com...
> I'm still having the issues even without the MS bluetooth dongle plugged
> into
> the USB port. I'm currently not using the BT keyboard/mouse, still
> crashing.


If you do have that bluetooth problem I had then removing the dongle won't
fix it, you need to remove all software.
Try going into safe mode and searching for "msconfig" then in the startup
tab remove all instances of bluetooth. Then reboot.
If it is not the problem, you arent uninstalling the software, you can
easily put the ticks back in after.


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Old 01-02-2007
Daze N. Knights
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

Why is it necessary to go into Safe Mode before removing the startup
entries for the bluetooth in msconfig? Just curious.

Beck wrote:
>
> "DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7E9B718B-7C55-40E1-9710-4604DCD87096@microsoft.com...
>> I'm still having the issues even without the MS bluetooth dongle
>> plugged into
>> the USB port. I'm currently not using the BT keyboard/mouse, still
>> crashing.

>
> If you do have that bluetooth problem I had then removing the dongle
> won't fix it, you need to remove all software.
> Try going into safe mode and searching for "msconfig" then in the
> startup tab remove all instances of bluetooth. Then reboot.
> If it is not the problem, you arent uninstalling the software, you can
> easily put the ticks back in after.


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  #9  
Old 01-02-2007
Beck
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM


"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
news:OYL%23chWRHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Why is it necessary to go into Safe Mode before removing the startup
> entries for the bluetooth in msconfig? Just curious.


Well when I had the problem with the bluetooth blue screening, it was giving
a blue screen upon reboot and I was in a cycle of
restart-bluescreen-restart-bluescreen and so on.
Going into safe mode stopped the software/drivers being loaded up so it
didn't blue screen.


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Old 01-02-2007
Daze N. Knights
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

Ah, I understand. Thanks for the explanation.

Beck wrote:
>
> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
> news:OYL%23chWRHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Why is it necessary to go into Safe Mode before removing the startup
>> entries for the bluetooth in msconfig? Just curious.

>
> Well when I had the problem with the bluetooth blue screening, it was
> giving a blue screen upon reboot and I was in a cycle of
> restart-bluescreen-restart-bluescreen and so on.
> Going into safe mode stopped the software/drivers being loaded up so it
> didn't blue screen.


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Old 01-02-2007
DCELL
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

I seriously doubt if bluetooth had anything to do with the bluescreen.

Don't even know if it's related to the decribed crashes but the unknown
device driver, in device manager, the general detail tab, says it's on PCI
Standard ISA Bridge. In the details tab, it says-- ACPI\PNPB006 PNPB006.

Also, when a crash is getting ready to come on, the mouse get's sluggish and
starts to freeze up.

"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> Ah, I understand. Thanks for the explanation.
>
> Beck wrote:
> >
> > "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
> > news:OYL%23chWRHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Why is it necessary to go into Safe Mode before removing the startup
> >> entries for the bluetooth in msconfig? Just curious.

> >
> > Well when I had the problem with the bluetooth blue screening, it was
> > giving a blue screen upon reboot and I was in a cycle of
> > restart-bluescreen-restart-bluescreen and so on.
> > Going into safe mode stopped the software/drivers being loaded up so it
> > didn't blue screen.

>


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  #12  
Old 01-02-2007
Chad Harris
 
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Re: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

D CELL--

Try this:

1) In run box type verifier and disable "deadlock detection" and disable the
inspection of whatever antivirus program's drivers (yes software programs
can have drivers Virginia). This will in no way impact your antivirus
program's efficacy, and you aren't using an Antivirus program with
problematic drivers. Whichever one it is, you know it well and so do
hundreds of thousands of others.

I understand this isn't your exact problem, and I don't care. It will show
you how to do what I just typed and that's why I put this here:


Fatal System Error: 0x000000C4 If Deadlock Detection in Driver Verifier Is
Turned on and Norton Antivirus Is Installed
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325672/en-us

You want it to stop verifying the drivers of your antivirus program. It's
not going to hurt you and may stop this.

1. Click Start, click Run, and then type verifier.
2. After Driver Verifier Manager starts, click Display Existing Settings,
and then confirm that Deadlock Detection is turned on.
3. Click Back.
4. Click Create Custom Settings, and then click Next.
5. Click Select Individual settings from a full list, and then click Next.
6. Click the settings that you want to turn on, make sure the Deadlock
Detection check box is not selected, and then click Next.
7. Click the drivers that you want to verify, and then click Next or Finish
if you choose all drivers on your computer.
8. Restart the computer.

2) Run Startup Repair:

You can run Startup Repair by putting your Vista DVD in after the
language screen in setup. You can also run System Restore from the same
location. It fixes Vista in other situations besides a BSOD no boot:

You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
also sometimes effective):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreins...rtup/index.htm

Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD. For
information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or from a
DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
2. Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next to
the Lock button, and then click Restart.

This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
(sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go to
pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order.

See for ref:
Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the power
button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.

3. Set your language preference, and then click Next.

Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and you
do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.

4. Click Repair your computer.

5. In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating system
that you want to repair, and then click Next.

6. In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start the
repair process.

7. When the repair process is complete, click Finish.

Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreins...rtup/index.htm

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore

Good luck,

CH





"DCELL" <DCELL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ADD2721D-1B3F-47E8-9164-45E8C56C49CA@microsoft.com...
>I seriously doubt if bluetooth had anything to do with the bluescreen.
>
> Don't even know if it's related to the decribed crashes but the unknown
> device driver, in device manager, the general detail tab, says it's on PCI
> Standard ISA Bridge. In the details tab, it says-- ACPI\PNPB006 PNPB006.
>
> Also, when a crash is getting ready to come on, the mouse get's sluggish
> and
> starts to freeze up.
>
> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>
>> Ah, I understand. Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>> Beck wrote:
>> >
>> > "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OYL%23chWRHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> Why is it necessary to go into Safe Mode before removing the startup
>> >> entries for the bluetooth in msconfig? Just curious.
>> >
>> > Well when I had the problem with the bluetooth blue screening, it was
>> > giving a blue screen upon reboot and I was in a cycle of
>> > restart-bluescreen-restart-bluescreen and so on.
>> > Going into safe mode stopped the software/drivers being loaded up so it
>> > didn't blue screen.

>>



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  #13  
Old 02-02-2007
Issam Shahrouri
 
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RE: Blue Screen, Vista Ultimate RTM

Remove the all the ram chips except one and try again. I had a similar thing
happen

"DCELL" wrote:

> Here's the blue screen error number..
> 0x000000124 (0x00000000, 0x83fba028, 0xb2000000, 0x00070f0f)
> even though I've never heard of anyone being able to tell you what it means.
>
> Here's my machine specs..
> A8N32 SLI Deluxe ASUS motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 4400+ X2,
> TWINX2048-3500LLPRO CORSAIR XMS RAM, 2 BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC in SLI mode, 2
> Sony DWQ30A DVD Dual Burners, Mitsumi 7&1 floppy/card reader, Adaptec 4 USB/3
> Firewire card, SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-65ZF ATX 650W power supply, Silverstone
> SST-TJ07 case
>
> It had a MS bluetooth KB/M but I unplugged those/the receiver/transmitter to
> see if that stopped crashes.
>
> I've disabled all kinds of power options because it wasn't shutting down,
> Screen would go black but machine still running. It will finally shut off
> now but still crashes.
>
> I"m using the latest Nvidia drivers, not the one Windows update
> installed-crashed with those to.
> Using the lates Realtek drivers, not the one windows update
> installed-crashed with those to.
>
> Keep getting a blue screen, intermitentally, while doing different things.
> There's a unknown device in manager that never will install, I've disabled
> that yet all HW working. I've unplugged the game port and serial port from
> MB headers, still crashing.
>
> Software installed:
> All updates from MS update
> Office 2007 Ultimate: Crashed without this
> Turbo Tax 2007: Crashed without this
> Quicken 20003: Crashed without this
>
> Any ideas?


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  #14  
Old 19-02-2007
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1
Hi, i am getting the exact same problem.


I notice you have the same series videocard as me (i have a 7600GT).

I have also done some testing and the problem does not occur if you uninstall the Nvidia drivers and just use the windows ones.

This leads me to believe the Nvidia drivers are a piece of crap.
So at this stage the choice is Half-functional Nvidia Drivers and Unstable Vista or Stable Vista and a no-function videocard.

Both options are rubbish and Nvidia need to get off their arse and release a driver that works. Hell Vista has been in development for 6 years, it wasnt like Nvidia didnt know it was coming.

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