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"tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

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Old 30-01-2007
Ninjak on FW
 
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"tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

Like a billion other people, I own Windows XP but I'd like to do a
clean install of Vista Ultimate using only the upgrade version. Is it
possible to trick the installer into thinking you have XP installed,
perhaps by copying the entire XP disc to your hard drive? I reinstall
my OS frequently and it will suck if I have to install XP AND Vista
every time.

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Old 30-01-2007
Chad Harris
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

This is a good question. I look forward to the answer. I don't think you
will be able to. Hopefully, someone will chime in soon on this. I've
posted recently highlighting the problems with the Upgrade DVD path MSFT has
apparently chosen to take including Ed Bott and George Ou ZDNET blog
articles this morning on that subject.

The short version is that if you don't have a Vista full DVD, you won't be
able to access the most effective Vista repair modalities (see my other
threads) via the Upgrade DVD.

CH


"Ninjak on FW" <shawnn@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Like a billion other people, I own Windows XP but I'd like to do a
> clean install of Vista Ultimate using only the upgrade version. Is it
> possible to trick the installer into thinking you have XP installed,
> perhaps by copying the entire XP disc to your hard drive? I reinstall
> my OS frequently and it will suck if I have to install XP AND Vista
> every time.
>


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Old 30-01-2007
Carey Frisch [MVP]
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

The "trick" is to purchase a "Full License" version of Windows Vista.
Do you not understand the meaning of the word "upgrade"?
If you wish to use an upgrade version of Vista to completely
reinstall Vista, then you'll have to install and activate Windows XP and
then use the Windows Vista "upgrade" DVD to "upgrade" to Vista.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Ninjak on FW" wrote:

Like a billion other people, I own Windows XP but I'd like to do a
clean install of Vista Ultimate using only the upgrade version. Is it
possible to trick the installer into thinking you have XP installed,
perhaps by copying the entire XP disc to your hard drive? I reinstall
my OS frequently and it will suck if I have to install XP AND Vista
every time.

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Old 30-01-2007
Robert Moir
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> The "trick" is to purchase a "Full License" version of Windows Vista.
> Do you not understand the meaning of the word "upgrade"?
> If you wish to use an upgrade version of Vista to completely
> reinstall Vista, then you'll have to install and activate Windows XP
> and then use the Windows Vista "upgrade" DVD to "upgrade" to Vista.


Are you this rude to everyone or just people asking for help with what is a
recent change to the way Windows upgrades work?


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Old 30-01-2007
jim
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

Hello... do what I will do, WHEN I get vista... (NOT YET!!!!)

Install once then get an imaging software like acronis true image,

make an "image" of your installation, then boot with the acronis cd
and recover that installation instead of going through the install
process...

time needed? 10 mins.....




"Ninjak on FW" <shawnn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170099761.701327.47530@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Like a billion other people, I own Windows XP but I'd like to do a
> clean install of Vista Ultimate using only the upgrade version. Is it
> possible to trick the installer into thinking you have XP installed,
> perhaps by copying the entire XP disc to your hard drive? I reinstall
> my OS frequently and it will suck if I have to install XP AND Vista
> every time.
>



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Old 30-01-2007
MICHAEL
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?


"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>> The "trick" is to purchase a "Full License" version of Windows Vista.
>> Do you not understand the meaning of the word "upgrade"?
>> If you wish to use an upgrade version of Vista to completely
>> reinstall Vista, then you'll have to install and activate Windows XP
>> and then use the Windows Vista "upgrade" DVD to "upgrade" to Vista.

>
> Are you this rude to everyone or just people asking for help with what is a recent change to
> the way Windows upgrades work?


It seems to be a growing problem among MVPs.

I will also point out, that on several occasions, Carey Frisch
has posted the flat-out wrong information.

-Michael

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Old 30-01-2007
Beck
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?


"Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
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> you dont need silly imaging software. its builtin to vista. seems you
> should know that being you tested it for so long.
> karma karma karma... i bet youre ugly too


Have you been following the thread?
This is about imaging XP, not Vista.

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Old 30-01-2007
Robert Moir
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

MICHAEL wrote:
> It seems to be a growing problem among MVPs.


Yeah, you'd have thought it would have got much better when I left, but
no... ;-)


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Old 30-01-2007
MICHAEL
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?


"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> MICHAEL wrote:
>> It seems to be a growing problem among MVPs.

>
> Yeah, you'd have thought it would have got much better when I left, but no... ;-)


You were never rude... well, not too terribly often. ;-)

-Michael

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Old 30-01-2007
DevilsPGD
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?

In message <0E485E07-F6E3-4105-8A1E-78A80CBD87E6@microsoft.com> "Carey
Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>The "trick" is to purchase a "Full License" version of Windows Vista.
>Do you not understand the meaning of the word "upgrade"?
>If you wish to use an upgrade version of Vista to completely
>reinstall Vista, then you'll have to install and activate Windows XP and
>then use the Windows Vista "upgrade" DVD to "upgrade" to Vista.


What part of the word "upgrade" implies that the recovery capabilities
are crippled/disabled?

--
A fool and his money are soon popular.
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Old 06-04-2008
svtorres1975
 
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Re: "tricking" Vista ultimate upgrade to install on clean HDD?


You have to think outside of box. low level format the hard drive then
install the vista upgrade an a full version. when it ask for product ID
just skip it. continue to install OS when its fully installed do an in
place upgrade. insert vista OS dvd choose to upgrade an then also choose
to download latest upgrade info from internet then proceed with upgrade
as normal when its finished just activate it by clicking launch then
right clicking computer an choosing properties. your done!!!


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svtorres1975
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