How much Memory can Vista 32 bit support?

Jed Clampett wrote:
>
> Sure, Ubuntu is good at surfing the net. For real work you need a
> real operating system, not a toy piece of crap that Ubuntu is. Ubuntu was
> designed by geeks for geeks.

No, Ubuntu is a re-branded knock-off of a 40-year old operating system
originally designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone
company. It HAS, however, been enhanced by technicians who felt the DOS
command line was not cryptic enough.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in
news:A443A306-0606-4A3E-8E23-8DEE41D206EC@microsoft.com:

> Server can use PAE for addressing because support for that is written
> into the OS.

I don't think that's quite fair or accurate. I think it's better to say
that for marketing reasons, XP is limited to 4GB of memory and 10
concurrent network connections. (i.e, so it can't compete with windows 2003
server).

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"Zonky" <zonky@my_pants.surfy.net> wrote in message
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> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:A443A306-0606-4A3E-8E23-8DEE41D206EC@microsoft.com:
>
>> Server can use PAE for addressing because support for that is written
>> into the OS.
>
> I don't think that's quite fair or accurate. I think it's better to say
> that for marketing reasons, XP is limited to 4GB of memory and 10
> concurrent network connections. (i.e, so it can't compete with windows
> 2003
> server).

No, XP is "limited" to 4 GB because that is the limit of 32 bit addressing.
Windows Server has a 36 bit hack (PAE), that is a hack in every sense of the
word. Certain 32 bit drivers will crash when it is used (like video
drivers).

If you need more than 4 GB, you need a 64 bit OS, not a 36 bit hack.

Well mine sees more than 4Gb
32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment here>>>> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028

Can anyone of you experts explain?

Well mine sees more than 4Gb
32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment here>>>> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028

Can anyone of you experts explain?
why mine sees all of 8GB?

> Can anyone of you experts explain?

it sees it, but it does not utilize all of it.

this change was done with sp1

before that, it could not see it and it could not utilize it either..

ray rod wrote:
> Well mine sees more than 4Gb
> 32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment here>>>> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028
>
> Can anyone of you experts explain?
> why mine sees all of 8GB?

it sees it, but it does not utilize all of it.

this change was done with sp1

before that, it could not see it and it could not utilize it either..

I have 4 sticks of 2gb each pc-6400 so why does vista 32 bit home premium see 8gb of ram
do not believe..see my attachment here>>>> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23401

"ray rod" wrote in message
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> Well mine sees more than 4Gb
> 32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment here>>>>
> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028
>
> Can anyone of you experts explain?

Well I can't see your attachment for a start. But I assume it shows 8GB on
the Computer Properties window.

This is to be expected as that particular window shows the installed RAM,
similar to what the motherboard would report. If you look in the Task
Manager you'll see under Performance -> Physical Memory you'll see only
around 3 to 3.5GB are available.

If you want to use all your RAM install a 64-bit operating system.

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:36:33 -0800, ray rod wrote:

> Well mine sees more than 4Gb
> 32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment
> here>>>>
> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028
>
> Can anyone of you experts explain?

I would assume it sees it, but is unable to use it. To use more than 4gb
on a 32 bit system you can use Linux with the proper kernel.

"ray rod" wrote in message
news:20081217193632f17raymondrodriguez221@gmail.com...
> Well mine sees more than 4Gb
> 32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment here>>>>
> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028
>
> Can anyone of you experts explain?


Regardless of what is shown (and the above link shows nothing), 32 bit Vista
will only use around 3.2 GB of RAM. It is mathematically impossible for a
32 bit OS to use more than 4 GB. "Seeing" and "using" are 2 very different
things. Look at Task Manager to see how much is actually being used.

To actually *use* it all, you need a 64 bit OS.

"ray rod" wrote in message
news:20081217194535f17raymondrodriguez221@gmail.com...
>I have 4 sticks of 2gb each pc-6400 so why does vista 32 bit home premium
>see 8gb of ram
> do not believe..see my attachment here>>>>
> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23401


How many times are you going to ask this question? Seeing 8 GB and using 8
GB are 2 very different things. Your 32 bit Vista is NOT using 8 GB, it is
simply reporting it as being installed.

Your link still shows nothing.

It will see memory above 4 GB but will simply say that the excess of 4 GB is
in use, if I'm not mistaken.



"ray rod" wrote in message
news:20081217193632f17raymondrodriguez221@gmail.com...
> Well mine sees more than 4Gb
> 32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment here>>>>
> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028
>
> Can anyone of you experts explain?

ray

What it shows is only that it is installed. What it actually has is no more than
3.5gigs.

Go to Start\Run and enter winver. How much Physical memory does it report there on
the bottom of the screen. That is the actual RAM (memory that you have)

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<ray rod> wrote in message news:20081217194535f17raymondrodriguez221@gmail.com...
>I have 4 sticks of 2gb each pc-6400 so why does vista 32 bit home premium see 8gb
>of ram
> do not believe..see my attachment here>>>>
> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23401

Bob Campbell wrote:
> "ray rod" wrote in message
> news:20081217193632f17raymondrodriguez221@gmail.com...
>> Well mine sees more than 4Gb
>> 32 bit vista home premium..do not believe then see my attachment
>> here>>>>
>> http://www.mypcclinic.com/forums/sho...028#post229028
>>
>> Can anyone of you experts explain?
>
>
> Regardless of what is shown (and the above link shows nothing), 32 bit
> Vista will only use around 3.2 GB of RAM. It is mathematically
> impossible for a 32 bit OS to use more than 4 GB. "Seeing" and "using"
> are 2 very different things. Look at Task Manager to see how much is
> actually being used.
>
> To actually *use* it all, you need a 64 bit OS.

So what's the maximum memory a 64 bit os can see and use?????? as
opposed to a Windows 64 bit system.